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Old 02-10-2012, 04:57 PM   #1
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Re: 1964 Caprick-up = (C10+SWB)*(94 Caprice 9C1+LT1)

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I think its gonna be fine. Think of the weight in that caprice body, hell the doors alone probably weigh the same as the cab. This is sick. I cant wait to see it finished. Nice job!
1966 1/2 ton fleetside shows a curb weight of 3220. The Caprices curb weight 4177. I am sure the frame has some to do with it because the caprice is almost all boxed, has the 4 link rear end, etc. But the majority of the weight is that behemoth body. Even with special consideration to the cab and bed mounting points to distribute the weight it is still going to be 5-600 pounds lighter.

I can jump up and down on the side of the cab and the entire frame moves down an inch or two. But doing the same thing to the 63 I have in the yard with the same sheet metal on it feels like it is going to flip over and rocks all over the place.

Anyway the unknown is really just that "the unknown". But that can all be changed very inexpensively.. Caprice parts are way cheaper then vintage truck parts...
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:36 AM   #2
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1966 1/2 ton fleetside shows a curb weight of 3220. The Caprices curb weight 4177. ...........
the weight it is still going to be 5-600 pounds lighter.
I can jump up and down on the side of the cab and the entire frame moves down an inch or two.
It isn't a matter of one being lighter than the other, my point is and was that the truck body is very nose heavy and much taller than the caprice.
Weight transfer when moving will be completely different between the two bodies.
That is why I suggested you wait for airbags.
I was and am giving you my humble advice for what it is.
A fact you are dealing with is, that of weight center (balance point front to rear) on that cab for instance, is about even with the face of the dash.
On my 63 prostreet I am having to push the motor back into the firewall which means the firewall is going back too just to get decent weight transfer.
My build is much different than yours and I am not comparing exactly but the fact remains that the majority of your weight is now way forward and higher.
Your "balance" is now way off so again, bagging it will be different.
Take it for what it is, I love this build and I think you are right to wait for bagging plans.
Keep up the good work.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:37 PM   #3
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It isn't a matter of one being lighter than the other, my point is and was that the truck body is very nose heavy and much taller than the caprice.
Weight transfer when moving will be completely different between the two bodies.
That is why I suggested you wait for airbags.
I was and am giving you my humble advice for what it is.
A fact you are dealing with is, that of weight center (balance point front to rear) on that cab for instance, is about even with the face of the dash.
On my 63 prostreet I am having to push the motor back into the firewall which means the firewall is going back too just to get decent weight transfer.
My build is much different than yours and I am not comparing exactly but the fact remains that the majority of your weight is now way forward and higher.
Your "balance" is now way off so again, bagging it will be different.
Take it for what it is, I love this build and I think you are right to wait for bagging plans.
Keep up the good work.

I totally agree.. This is one reason why I channeled the frame supports down to drop the cab as low as possible. But the frame design and four link rear end along with a pretty robust 4 wheel disk set up should be plenty to stop the lighter load.
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:37 PM   #4
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Re: 1964 Caprick-up = (C10+SWB)*(94 Caprice 9C1+LT1)

I've been gone from the boards a bit and I was catching up on your progress. This truck is sure turning out real nice. I love how clean that firewall looks now, really is going to be stunning once it's all done and together.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:33 PM   #5
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I am very interested in how it handles when you are finished. I am planning to weld a Camaro sub-frame under mine. You are going to have one cool truck
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:41 PM   #6
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Thanks Bear and Jimmy. I am a little behind but may get some hours in this weekend. I have to go get a 4th parts truck for the inner fenders and side bed steps. It is deep in the woods and is going to s@$& getting it out. But it will be way worth it!!
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:09 PM   #7
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Determined that there is no way the inner fenders from the caprice will ever work and would definitely look like crap.. So it looks like modified original inner fenders are the answer. cut the hole on the passenger side for the wiring harness. Looked through every radiator hose in Napa and finally found a lower radiator hose that will work.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:56 PM   #8
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Re: 1964 Caprick-up = (C10+SWB)*(94 Caprice 9C1+LT1)

Great progress and congrats on hearing it run!
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:05 PM   #9
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Congrats on getting that thing started, keep up the great work!
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:47 AM   #10
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I go the oil cooler and trans cooler remounted and plumbed in. Made a shifter linkage and installed it. Works well.. Actually, started it and moved it a few inches forward and backward.. Worked on a cab corner and decided that they are both going to need to be totally replaced. Pulled the bed back off and am starting to look for a place to put the battery. Didn't get a chance to go pickup up my inner fenders (complete 65 truck) and it looks like a lot of needed rain later in the week so that may be put on hold for a couple of weeks.. I am just dreading it..
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Upload it to YouTube, then post the link here.
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on the bucket! Nice dude! That's gotta be a great feeling. Looking forward to that day myself.
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Congrats man that is so great to see! Keep it up and keep the updates coming. It is neat to see it moving under its own power and the "bucket" seat is priceless as well as the throttle!
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Dang a five gallon bucket is better than old apple box any day.. your not sitting on spliters :.
Looking good keep up the good work .
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Thanks guys, it is pretty exciting to get it to move.. I just want to drive it around the neighborhood and see how fast the cops come...
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Congrats on your first drive. No matter how short - that first drive sure gets you motivated to keep going. I can't believe how much you're getting accomplished in such a short time. Great work!!!!!!!!
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That video is awesome! Made me chuckle seeing the bucket and throttle, but it doesn't matter, you had it running and moving on it's own. You are moving right along on this and I hope the weather works with you a lot so you can get her finished quickly. Looking forward to seeing the final product.
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Thanks Bears and Shortbox... Waiting for inner fenders then I can put it together and hope it fits together...
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I am interested in anyones opinion on the stance. I know the front end is not on it yet but the bed is pretty close. The front is about 1/2 inch low but all in all the bed is setting where it will be on the frame.
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I cut up a great set of inner fenders to fit the frame. Then got the fenders bolted into place.. Well with a handful of bolts. Ran the wiring back through everything.
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and after running a few more wires I was able to get the front clip and backed it out in order to get some shots of it. So here you go..
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Just went thru your build.....way to go man !!
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It is looking really good and it is great to see it moving under its own power. From what I can see, I like the stance that it has now. You are doing great with getting it all together. Keep it up and thanks for the updates.
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