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Old 06-18-2016, 01:29 PM   #1
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Re: 64' K10 Project Long Bed

wouldn't they both have the same caliper holder? My calipers didn't have a bunch of clearance when putting them over the disc if i remember right. And what capt said probably 1980 for the 10b.
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:33 PM   #2
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Les--forgot to say, i ran all new brake lines as you have to split ft to rear anyway.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:21 PM   #3
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Re: 64' K10 Project Long Bed

John,

Thanks for the information on the Dana 44 in your K10 too.

Kimble,

Not sure if the calipers are different for the 1" and HD 1 1/4" rotors, if their is a difference the piston bore may be bigger. Will find out more tomorrow, going to parts stores and will look at the calipers. Will have my originals back too.

Also, putting all new seals in the T221, along with resealing the cover plates too. Most are leaking a little.

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Les--be careful with the ones with shims. and use thin gasket mat like the org ones. I also after it was back together i put a bead of sealer around each cover plate. these are tough to keep from weeping.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:12 PM   #5
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Kimble,

Thanks for the heads-up on resealing the T221. The shaft seals are "CR" 17386 and shifter " National" 480954. They came from shop in MN, that does a lot of 4x4 work. He also warned me about the shims, go slow, "no impacts- breaks the cover", hand wrench only.

Going to try double seals on the shafts per suggestion.

DD thanks for the information on how much your front end settled once built!


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Old 06-21-2016, 10:22 PM   #6
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Re: 64' K10 Project Long Bed

Got the front calipers to work, just needed to trim a little nub at the top and bottom with cut off wheel. Now on to brake hoses, looking hard at P vans.

Kimble do you like a 90 degree or 45 line on the banjo connection, does the 90 make for a shorter hose connection?

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Old 06-21-2016, 10:26 PM   #7
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Right side caliper.
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:44 PM   #8
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Rockwell T221


The Rockwell T 221 seals and gaskets have been replaced/ resealed. Used Permatex Gasket Maker. It works really well. Put a little bit on surfaces where the seals go, to prevent any leakage around the outside of the seals, which happens sometimes. Did install the double seals on the output/input shafts. All the seals were original from 1964. The small shifter seals were almost gone, just touch them and they came apart. The inside looked and felt good, should run a lot more. Did not clean the inside with solvent, concerned bearing could be compromised. Did drain for a day, and flushed with one quart of fresh grease. Photos of the original shaft seal below, it is a one piece double seal.

Also installing Spicer magnetic fill and drain plugs, part number 064254, they are 3/4 pipe thread .
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:58 PM   #9
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Nice build. Been peeking at it here and there. Fun times with the t221. Hah mine was plenty a pain also.
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Old 09-06-2016, 09:23 PM   #10
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Mattbert56,

Your T221 looks nice too. Mine was a little worn in a few place, but overall good and bearings were all tight.

Selling our house and moving to a smaller one, hope to get back working on it later this week.

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Old 09-06-2016, 09:53 PM   #11
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John,

As mentioned about, selling our home and have been thinning stuff out, a lot. Also, was under the weather for a little bit.
Back at it now, cleaning up a bunch of bolts and brake/fuel line fasteners right now. Almost done with welding on bell housing for the NV4500 too. Hope to get the trans in before moving to new, much smaller garage!!

Brakes and brake lines next. Ordered a set of new brake line, not correct for "K" trucks, going to send originals for them to copy.

The engine is making some slow progress too.

Plan to get back posting soon, after we close on selling our home.

Thanks for asking,
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:34 AM   #12
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Glad to hear all is well Les. I am looking at having to move to a different home so that I can keep my projects and parts stash. New regulations at my shop prohibit any outside storage. I'm not looking forward to the move.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:02 PM   #13
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Re: 64' K10 Project Long Bed

les--looking forward to the rest of your build. Moving isn't fun as you probably know lol. smaller garage, good or bad. just add a shed outside. I worked out of a 2 car garage for 23yrs and tried to keep the wife's car in it most of the time.

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Old 09-08-2016, 01:46 AM   #14
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Kimble,

Have not figured out the garage space, yet. Definitely vehicles will have to stay outside for a while. And will likely insulate the garage walls and doors too, along with adding 220 volt power outlets. The good news is that their is a large basement with garage access through double doors only half a level down. So basement has all the hand tools, tool box, parts storage, some machines, and work bench. Welder will likely be in garage, air compressor and media cabinet not sure - leaning garage for noise,
Also, using current garage to the last day we own.

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Sorry for your move too, sounds like very stringent ordnance, you are facing not grandfathering you or not allowing fence to meet their new objective. Hopefully the move will have some benefits for you.

Thanks for support in making the move to smaller home,
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:57 PM   #15
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Some progress lately, a little time on the truck now and then. Still working on getting settled in our new to us home,and it will take a while. Mainly working on small parts cleaning and coating. First remove the crud and rust, then surface prepare them for ceramic coating, in media cabinet using Aluminum oxide 120 grit. Immediately after surface prep, apply the ceramic coating in dry air.

Use an aluminum sheet to hold the bolts, drill and tap it to fit the different bolt sizes.

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Old 10-09-2016, 09:06 PM   #16
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Cab Mount Bushing

Photos of the cab mounting bushings. Their are some additional large washer not shown below.
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Old 10-09-2016, 09:19 PM   #17
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Additional coating photos. Getting ready to sort parts into groups. The rear spring shackles show an "M" on the top.
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Love the attention to detail and the documentation.
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Les--Glad you are getting settled in you new house. keep plugging along.

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TJ,

Thanks for the compliment, your build is great too.


Kimble,

Making indirect progress for the most part currently. Starting to build a 8x16' storage shed, to move a bunch of stuff out of the garage.

Did have some fun saturday, picked up a sport bumper with rock guards, mounting brackets, license plate bracket and light. Nice condition and straight bumper. Also got custom bed molding, and fleetside braces. It will likely be for a fleet side short bed in the future.

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Old 10-13-2016, 02:11 PM   #21
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Re: 64' K10 Project Long Bed

Les--I just re-read through your build and i already asked how wide your ft springs are.--- 2 1/2". still would like to know what the difference is between 60-63 and 64-66 shackle's.

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Kimble,

Photos of the 64' front spring rear shackle parts are below, along with measurements. Looks like the 64's are about a 1/4 inch longer/wider, then 61's.
o pin overall length is 5 inches;
o bushing overall length is 2 1/2 inches;
o bushing OD is 0.868"; and
o pin OD for bushing threads is 0.657"

Also a couple of repeat photos of how it all goes together and new parts used, for others reference.

Are the 61' parts the same except for length? Looks like the extra length is in additional threads that go in the bushing.

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Old 10-14-2016, 01:39 PM   #23
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Les--the bolt with threads like the shackle pins, is that the front of the spring pin? Mine is just a bolt (has the grease hole) and it goes through a bronze bushing thats pressed into the spring eye. looks like this is the difference, as the spring shackle at the rear looks the same.

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Kimble,
Will post some photos of the 64' front spring connection parts. I think the answer is yes.

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Old 10-15-2016, 12:32 PM   #25
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sorry to keep bothering you Les about this. I would say the front spring rear shackle's are the same all years 60-66.

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