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Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
I left the saddles in place with the stock rivets as well. Not certain why the OP removed them only to reinstall with socketheads.
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Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
I installed socket heads. One of the reasons is someone previously mounted the lower a-arms and didn't ensure they were seated properly, the locating pins were crushed some and I wanted to ensure they worked properly.
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Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
It wasn't really a requirement to knock out the rivets on the saddles. I just wanted maximum engagement on all four points. I machined the new spotfaces in the shafts .005" over the diameter of the Grade 8 socket heads, and the added height of the sockethead (versus the height of the rivet) makes for a positive interaction where the shaft locks in to the saddle. With the rivet, you're only engaged at the height of the outer lip. It'll work fine, because that's all the factory required, but I tend to overkill when it comes to suspensions.
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Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
Hey guys, I moved my LCA's ahead by 3/4". They were original steel bushing style shafts.
I got an alignment done today. The caster reading was 5.5 degrees. Just an FYI...
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I think you'd have to twist one cap one way, the other cap the opposite -- otherwise you'd draw the caps in or move them out equally netting no caster gain. I'd be concerned about removing bearing surface on the one end of the shaft though, causing premature wearout since the caps are the actual friction surfaces.
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Ended up doing my arms, got the idea from Rob but decided to take a different approach I saw another member here took. I am on a tight budget so went this way, might brace them up a bit, we will see. I'm not the best fabricator, but I'm happy with them. Moved them over .75
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I am sorry? WHY did you do this? I would not run those even with bracing and plating. Seems to have defeated the purpose and created a dangerous situation. Please explain.
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Lol what purpose was defeated here? Little dramatic aye?
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A piece of 3/16 plate across the bottom & on the sides (F&R).
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Thanks. I have two more sets of arms so if these don't work
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Definitely plate top/bottom. Don't want that breaking off while driving!
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Have you installed "skid plates" on the lower parts of your front end
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Ok bad idea, I get it. As soon as I did it I wasn't very confident, not sure if bracing will be enough??
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I have had a experience with skid plates and lower suspension parts!
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OH my! Are you ok? Do tell the story.
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Long story !
Very interesting ride, until we got the truck off the road! All fixed and gaining more confidence every day
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Just trying to save a life here. Sorry I was dramatic. I meant no harm. Just doesn't look safe. If you moved the arm forward by the mod method, and then moved the ball joint mounting then didn't you basically just move the place where the spring sits? I just don't follow what you've done here. I am a little slow today. Again, I mean no harm just trying to figure this out. As I understand the MOD it moves the whole arm and that is what it is intended to do. Or did you move the ball joint in the same direction creating even more caster?
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I don't see any problem with modding the arms the way ranger has, as long as he ties in the sides and welds a plate across the bottom. He's just moving the balljoint over to improve caster while leaving the spring pocket in the correctly aligned location.
@solidaxel, how did you manage to drag your lower balljoint on the ground? Did your wheel fall off?
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Re: My caster mod (with pictures)
I did my first set of arms in a similar way.
![]() The plating is more important on the sides than top and bottom. You lost the strength of the arms when you cut through the sides. Think of bending a ruler when it is flat vs standing on its side.
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