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Old 09-14-2017, 01:48 PM   #1
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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step

No worries. Zapco was gooooood stuff. Whatever you need, let me know.
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Old 09-17-2017, 04:19 PM   #2
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MB Quart was BIG some years back, I checked out a few myself but couldn't see spending the money.
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No worries. Zapco was gooooood stuff. Whatever you need, let me know.
That's good to know. These parts tagged along when I bought the original '68 and all I remember was how thrilled the young man was about the audio system. I went with a bench seat and had no place for the components so they've been stored ever since. Two of the rear cab panels are done and I'm to the point where I can start mocking up a console... which should be fun given my lack of carpentry skills. I figure it's probably best to house the sub in a wooden box rather than sheet metal. You always see them using particle board or maybe plywood on the Velocity channel.

I did a little bit of wiring on the stereo using the schematic I have. Left room to redo anything that doesn't work. Kathy suggested that I should hook the power up and just test it. Then I'll know for sure if it's right... or KABOOM!
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I bought my Kenwood head unit and component speakers at a stereo place on hwy 40, I'll look and see if I have thier info and get back to you with that, I got everything at a competitive price, the tweeters in the component set can be be both surface or flush mount, they also come with bass blockers that are part of the wiring. My component front speakers are KENWOOD KFC-P709PS, about $65.00
The place I got my Kenwood stuff from was
"http://www.customaudiocreation.com"

I installed mine in the dash flush mounted, I used a hydraulic knock out tool that the electrician's use to run conduit into breaker boxes, very clean holes, no burrs at all.
The hole sizes range from 3/4" to 4" plus. Let me know if you would like to use one of these sets, I can borrow them from work.
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I figure it's probably best to house the sub in a wooden box rather than sheet metal. You always see them using particle board or maybe plywood on the Velocity channel.
If you're going to attempt to build a box for the sub yourself, be sure to use MDF, which I think is what you see on TV. Most (probably 99%) of the pros use MDF for audio boxes. You wouldn't want your sub rattling the heck out of a metal box (and it would). Keep at it, it's looking good!
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:09 PM   #5
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If you're going to attempt to build a box for the sub yourself, be sure to use MDF, which I think is what you see on TV. Most (probably 99%) of the pros use MDF for audio boxes. You wouldn't want your sub rattling the heck out of a metal box (and it would). Keep at it, it's looking good!
Thanks for the tip, Duane! I went to Menard's today and bought some 3/4" MDF and will use it for the sub box. I'll probably graft some sheetmetal onto it to finish out the rest of the console forward of the enclosure. The instructions for the JL Audio sub said a sealed box needs slightly over .75 ft3 internal volume. I don't want a rectangular box where it sits, so I drew up what I wanted and sized the panels to give me the same inside volume as their suggested dimensions. I hope the shape of the box isn't as important as the volume. I'm half deaf anyway, so I'm not sure why I'm even worrying about it.
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Thanks for the tip, Duane! I went to Menard's today and bought some 3/4" MDF and will use it for the sub box. I'll probably graft some sheetmetal onto it to finish out the rest of the console forward of the enclosure. The instructions for the JL Audio sub said a sealed box needs slightly over .75 ft3 internal volume. I don't want a rectangular box where it sits, so I drew up what I wanted and sized the panels to give me the same inside volume as their suggested dimensions. I hope the shape of the box isn't as important as the volume. I'm half deaf anyway, so I'm not sure why I'm even worrying about it.
Nice shape to that... I think it will work ok... typically the speaker sold sit in the middle of the box for maximum effect...
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Are you running push button start and what company did you go with?
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Thanks for the tip, Duane! I went to Menard's today and bought some 3/4" MDF and will use it for the sub box. I'll probably graft some sheetmetal onto it to finish out the rest of the console forward of the enclosure. The instructions for the JL Audio sub said a sealed box needs slightly over .75 ft3 internal volume. I don't want a rectangular box where it sits, so I drew up what I wanted and sized the panels to give me the same inside volume as their suggested dimensions. I hope the shape of the box isn't as important as the volume. I'm half deaf anyway, so I'm not sure why I'm even worrying about it.

Just the volume from everything I read when doing mine back when I could hear better! LOL!
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That subwoofer box will look great in there, the only thing you need to do now is buy enough subwoofer enclosure acoustic polyfill for your application, once installed the shape of the box won't matter nearly as much and the bass will be richer and more impactful.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:27 AM   #10
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That subwoofer box will look great in there, the only thing you need to do now is buy enough subwoofer enclosure acoustic polyfill for your application, once installed the shape of the box won't matter nearly as much and the bass will be richer and more impactful.
Thanks for the info, Brian! I never heard of the stuff, but da Google says you're spot on. Will acquire some and put it to good use.
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Looks very nice!
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Nice work as always....Keep up the good work.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:35 PM   #13
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Thought I'd take a short break before starting work on the console. The sub box turned out better than it should have given my lack of woodworking skills. I had to remove the center gas tank mounting tab so the box would sit all the way back to the rear cab wall. I went ahead and rounded the corners on the front edges of the box, but I'm not sure if that will help or hinder the upholstery guys. I figure they've seen it all and the good ones can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

I plan to tie into the sub box with sheet metal for the console going forward. It's a lot less bulky and a few of the shapes I have in mind would be difficult with MDF.
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Nice carpentry work Vic!
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Lest you think I've been slacking, here are some shots of the console in progress. The pattern I laid out in my CAD program underwent numerous revisions and an intermediate transfer to a 1/4" plywood panel to iron out all the fitment issues. I then traced it onto the sheet metal and cut it out. I spot welded angle pieces in those places where it wasn't possible to use the finger brake. Still a ways to go, but it's starting to take shape.
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This all looks super nice Vic! Wish I could keep a closer eye but life has me away from the scene. Only for a while though!
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Saaaaayy.... that's nice!
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Thanks, guys! Here's a progress shot of the console. I still need to figure out the best way to mount it and the sub box to the floor, but at least the basic shape is set.

Took a day off today and drove 2.5 hours south of here with Kathy to MoKan Dragway for some baseline runs on our 392 Charger. It was mostly disappointing. First two runs were time trials. Massive wheel hop with the street tires in sport mode and traction control off. Ran back to back 14 flat @ 107. MPH indicates a lot of room for improvement. Figured I'd only get one more run in eliminations, so I left the TC on this time. Left better but still had a lot of hop. Ran a 13.49 on a 13.95 dial so we loaded up and came home to do some research on the traction issues. These cars typically run mid 12's so I need to sort out the problems before we go again. Probably won't be until next spring anyway. Gotta lotta truck left to build.
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I always enjoy the "Old School" feel at MoKan. Jet cars there were Awesome!
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Looks like winter is shaping up to be good on this thread! We need to get Vic GoPro! Sounds like a fun weekend to me. 12's would be cool, way cool!
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It was my first time there, and I agree it's a throwback to the old days. Nice folks, though. We'll probably go back on a Friday night next spring. One of the regulars said that's when the street cars congregate. Going to a full on DR for a test and tune wasn't all that smart. Made someone really happy first round, though.
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I agree, John! Currently waiting for the traction setup to go on sale come Black Friday. I do have a Lukas Ace camera stashed away for CRLS. Just didn't think to hook it up for the digs.

I'm still deep in the console project, although I'm just about out of stuff to do on it. I did a CAD drawing of the top plate that goes around the shifter and e-level control. Emailed the .dxf to a local shop in Independence for a RFQ but haven't heard back as yet. The part is tapered, has rounded corners and a 1/8" radius around all the top edges. Needs to be done on a CNC and my guys in Houston have been busy lately. So hopefully this will work out.
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If they don't work out, let me know. I work with a machine shop infested with hot rodders and drag racers. Progress looks good!
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Love the counsel Vic!
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This probably doesn't look much like progress, but trust me, it's a big step forward. The underside of the cab is officially finished. Taped everything off and shot the 3M Body Schutz into all the cracks and crevices. Before doing that, I filled any potentially leaky seams with 3M Strip Caulk. Hopefully, that will ward off any rust well into the future. The cab is now ready to go back on the chassis for the last time.

I also continued with the Rattle Trap on the topside of the floor but had to stop and order some more off eBay. Still have a long way to go to get the firewall covered as well as the panels I built for mounting stuff. The only noise I want inside the cab is the stereo... and open exhaust when I flip the switch.
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