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Old 10-08-2015, 01:47 PM   #1
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and then the coil spring was out, naturally we have to compare the old and the new, and it appears as the old one is roughly 14" and the new one about 12" (the angle in that camera shot makes the old spring look like its 15" but it's not)

so if we allow for some sag, divide by the circumference of the earth, lets see, carry the one, ah yes we should get roughly a 2" drop, well we shall see
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Old 10-08-2015, 02:53 PM   #2
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and four hours into it, one side in the front was done

the installation is the reversal of removal, LOL
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Old 10-08-2015, 02:55 PM   #3
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with the wheel on and one side done, I took a preliminary measurement, and sure enuff we got about a 2" drop, the other side of course will have to go down, and I am sure the coils will settle a bit
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:53 PM   #5
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:43 PM   #6
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Nice job. I'm right behind you. I've been cleaning and painting in preparation for installing new suspension parts.
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:54 PM   #7
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Nice job. I'm right behind you. I've been cleaning and painting in preparation for installing new suspension parts.
Coolness, have you picked a parts vendor yet?
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Old 10-08-2015, 03:56 PM   #8
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Quick Update: So took an hour off for lunch with the family, now back to do the other side, it's 1:00 in the afternoon already.
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Well you're running behind in EST. lol. Good job. Keep on keeping on
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Old 10-08-2015, 04:46 PM   #10
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alright guys so the other side took less than an hour to remove, so less than half the time, keep in mind I had to stop to take pictures and update this forum... ok and chug a beer - don't judge! ha ha
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Old 10-08-2015, 04:49 PM   #11
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Top Tip: figure I better mention, I recommend removing the U bolts completely from the brackets holding the rear of the lower control arm up to the cross member before trying to lower the jack, as they love to bind, so once the nuts and washer are removed, shoot some BP Blaster up in them and fandangle them out with some gentle persuasion, then move on to lowering the jack - SLOWLY -
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Old 10-08-2015, 04:52 PM   #12
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and here is our reward, two completely removed rusty stock tall coil springs... and their brand new cousin aka Shorty
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McGaughy's front and rear. Rear is already done...complete with a 1 ton sway bar.
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Old 10-08-2015, 04:57 PM   #14
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:01 PM   #15
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alright time for the 3 oclock update

first wanted to point out that the there is a divit in the lower control arm bowl where the tail of the spring should end up in

its kind of hard to tell with the dirty part, so I try to point to it, you will know what I am talking about when you go to do the job yourselves
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:04 PM   #16
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the other thing I want to point out that the way the lower control arm gets centered on the cross member is by these nipples inside the brackets that hold the U bolts and the holes in the round bar that attaches to it - very important that they align
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and so we get the other side assembled
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at first everything appears alright as we remove the jack, mind you this side gave me a little trouble getting aligned
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:13 PM   #19
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however, upon further inspection, we notice that the top of the spring is not on center, there is a round sheet metal ring that needs to go inside our new spring and the spring is binding and needs to go in 1/4 of an inch to the inside of the vehicle

no problem, lets gently tap it with our baby sledge

BAM!!! instead of going inside it pops out to the outside, darn it, time for a do over

just being honest wich you all, nothing to hide, I'm learning as I go

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Old 10-08-2015, 07:16 PM   #20
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Before you go and scrap those old front coil springs please let me know if you're interested in parting with them in exchange for a contribution to your truck fund.
Oh, and it's about time you lowered it!
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:16 PM   #21
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and at 4 PM we were done with the front, my son helped me re do the driver side and we believe now it sits properly, since we had to do one side over, and because of my recent back injury I feel there is no sense in marching on today and doing the rear, we will live to fight another day

new front measurements are

Driver Front 27 3/4" center of wheel well (tire pressure 26.5 PSI ahem low)

Passenger Front 27 5/8" center of wheel well (tire pressure 27.0 PSI also low)

I think it was worth the effort, your thoughts?

here are some before and after shots of the stance
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:20 PM   #22
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a what the heck lets see a close up, stock and with the front lowered 3 inches - the gap between the top of the front tire and the wheel well is no longer

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Old 10-08-2015, 08:35 PM   #23
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Good job, just wanted to say, that job is very doable without dropping the rear of the lower control arm.
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Thumbs up...Dramatic change. How did your control arm bushing look and how do your leaf spring bushings look?
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Thumbs up...Dramatic change. How did your control arm bushing look and how do your leaf spring bushings look?
Thanks, great questions, and I didn't even look on purpose, but I know they are the original ones so that is a project down the road. Before today I was planning on getting drop spindles. However with todays results I may no longer opt out for those. So originally the bushings were gonna get done then.

I am happy to report that the new shackles for the rear leaf springs came with new bushings so at least those will be taken care of. And I just checked LMC Truck and oh my are those leaf spring eye bushings really $17 bucks each and we need 4 total of them? wow pricey
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