Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)

[imsuchaman55]

Who do you have do your painting?

[menace121978]

Rich Grant from Folsom Auto Body. serious talent man.... he just takes on a lot of projects at once and takes awhile to get stuff done. he's been moving lately though

[imsuchaman55]

Sweet, I wanna check your ride out sometime. I really like how you did your guages, looks much better than digital. And the ls sounds like a monster, I burned a good couple hours @ work going thru the whole thread, amazing stuff!
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[menace121978]

thanks man i sure apprieciate it! your welcome to come on by. i'll shoot you a pm with my number

[TyKby2]

what Autometer gauges did you use and what is the size of your speedo and tach

[menace121978]

i used the ultra-lite II's. the speedo and tach are both 5".

[TyKby2]

Originally Posted by menace121978

i used the ultra-lite II's. the speedo and tach are both 5".

thanks, I love the white face during the day and black at night. sweet build btw, can't wait to see it finished

[menace121978]

anytime man! just so you know the gauge face is actually a really light grayish color. and do yourself a favor... use Bigblock73's brackets. they are worth their weight in gold

[bigblock73]

Originally Posted by menace121978

anytime man! just so you know the gauge face is actually a really light grayish color. and do yourself a favor... use Bigblock73's brackets. they are worth their weight in gold

Thanks Dennis! Added some of your images to the instructions, just so you know.

[shenk10]

i have two questions for you, I went back through and read and tried to figure it out....but the first one...you were talking about an upgraded steering box I believe, where did you get it from or did you just re-do the stock one? The second question is did you end up keeping the 10 bolt rear or did you find a 12 bolt to swap?

Thanks

[menace121978]

hey Jordan, on the box i just have a stock rebuilt one. eventually im going to get the acr quick ratio box. on the rear i ended up just getting new seals, bearing, and spider gears for the 10 bolt. that is another thing i plan on upgrading in the future. probably just keep the 10 bolt and put in a posi unit.

i was just thinking its funny the 2 things i feel are the weak link in the build you picked up on.

[PRattenbury]

Originally Posted by menace121978

eventually im going to get the acr quick ratio box.

Where is this steering box available? Mine leaks like a seive and I was hoping to find a quick ratio box. There was a place in the Northwest I spoke to that said there's no such thing as a quick ratio box for our trucks. If there is, I'd love to hear about it...

[draggin86]

Originally Posted by menace121978

hey Jordan, on the box i just have a stock rebuilt one. eventually im going to get the acr quick ratio box. on the rear i ended up just getting new seals, bearing, and spider gears for the 10 bolt. that is another thing i plan on upgrading in the future. probably just keep the 10 bolt and put in a posi unit.

i was just thinking its funny the 2 things i feel are the weak link in the build you picked up on.

you mean like this one??

[Captkaos]

Originally Posted by menace121978

hey Jordan, on the box i just have a stock rebuilt one. eventually im going to get the acr quick ratio box. on the rear i ended up just getting new seals, bearing, and spider gears for the 10 bolt. that is another thing i plan on upgrading in the future. probably just keep the 10 bolt and put in a posi unit.

i was just thinking its funny the 2 things i feel are the weak link in the build you picked up on.

12bolt truck axle is NOT the same as a 12bolt car. The pinion on the 12bolt truck is smaller. The 10 bolt is the same strength and it has a bigger/stronger pinion. It is not worth the effort to find a 12bolt, save your money and time and just upgrade the 10bolt. If you don't plan to drag race it every day with slicks on it you will be fine.

As for the AGR steering box. It is just a rebuilt factory box. Bought one when they were MUCH cheaper 10 years ago on a GB. It isn't a quick ratio box. If you find a rebuilt one cheaper, just buy it. If you call AGR they will tell you this also. IF you want better/quicker steering, you need a R&P setup.

[68 TT]

Originally Posted by Captkaos

12bolt truck axle is NOT the same as a 12bolt car. The pinion on the 12bolt truck is smaller. The 10 bolt is the same strength and it has a bigger/stronger pinion. It is not worth the effort to find a 12bolt, save your money and time and just upgrade the 10bolt. If you don't plan to drag race it every day with slicks on it you will be fine.

I agree. You can also upgrade the 10-bolt in your truck with the 30-spline posi carrier out of an 88-up truck making it nearly as strong as the car 12-bolt.

An 88-up truck rear axle swap may be the way to go for you as long as you can handle the minor extra width with your wheel offset. It brings the rear wheels out closer to alignment with the front. Glock35ipsc did the swap on Fred and it really helped the looks.

[shenk10]

haha I'm sorry about that, but I think your fine either way, and I've never heard of the quick ratio gear box, so that's new for me, and I think the 10 bolt will be fine, I think everyone swaps the 12 bolt just for piece of mind

[68GMCCustom]

sure they make quick ratio boxes...but if you're asking for a stock replacement then no they don't.

AGR makes steering boxes and has there original series and the "super truck box" and super truck box "2" series. You'll want a 12:1 for quick ratio. 13-16:1 variable is what I've been considering since this truck will also see drag strip duty.





http://www.summitracing.com/search/?...ck%20box&dds=1

[menace121978]

and there it is! thanks 68GMCCustom! btw... I've been searching for a tbss buddy! shhhhhhh! keeping it quiet till i find 'the one'

[JohnC]

Originally Posted by menace121978

and there it is! thanks 68GMCCustom! btw... I've been searching for a tbss buddy! shhhhhhh! keeping it quiet till i find 'the one'

You should have said something man! We just sold ours.

[joe231]

What is the stock steering ratio?
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[menace121978]

13:1-16:1 i believe

[68GMCCustom]

glad to help....and only on the square bodies...


A TBSS is a great vehicle as long as your cool with burning premium and getting 12-16mpg...except for the guys that either change their rear gear or add a few more. We like ours....does all we need...and a little more!

[joe231]

So all the square have variable rate steering?
Good to know, I wasn't sure.

Thanks!
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[68GMCCustom]

I think so....or at least from like '76 or '77up

[3r!c84]

whats this variable steering box?