Project Vitamin C-10

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

It's hard to have patience. Take your time. I was already going to do the same thing. Glad your doing it first so I can learn from your mistakes. Not that you make any.

Your funny, all mistakes are posted here to help others not to repeat my misfortunes.

Originally Posted by bubba327

Alan -You are an inspiration. And you still have some hair
But the closer I get to starting the body work on the 64 , the more worried I get. It has been over 20 years since I last spread Bondo, and I know things and products have improved since "back in the day".
Do you have any suggestions or books to re-learn body work and especially metal preparation using the new products?
I know the old skills will come back, but I would kinda like to avoid screwin things up if possible.
Bubba

Thanks Bubba, your an inspiration as well. Yours is running. You say you've done body work before. It's like riding a bike. Techniques are pretty much the same for fillers. Yes the chemicals have gotten better. The best advice is to read the label of the product you are using. The manufacturer knows the product more than anyone. If you have a specific question hit me up. I will try to help. If you think you might screw something up just start in a small spot until you get back in the saddle. That way product waste will be minimal.

[bubba327]

Okay Alan Question Time!! I remember you prefer Evercoat Rage.. What is the difference between the Rage, Rage gold and Xtreme and Quantam and Z-grip ? What is the best one to use and how do you choose?? Back in the day Bondo was the only choice.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by bubba327

Okay Alan Question Time!! I remember you prefer Evercoat Rage.. What is the difference between the Rage, Rage gold and Xtreme and Quantam and Z-grip ? What is the best one to use and how do you choose?? Back in the day Bondo was the only choice.

I have used all but quantam. I have been using xtreme for at least 7 years. It's my choice over the others. I haven't checked prices on the others lately. If I remember right zgrip is considerabaly cheaper.It's thicker compared to xtreme. Xtreme will run off the mixing board if your not careful especially in the hot months. xtreme can't not be applied heavily. It will run off a verticle panel. That's exaggerated some, but it will sag. Rage and gold fall in between xtreme and zgrip. That's my .02 from a vague memmory. Did I answer your question?

[56taskforce]

Allen I just spent the better part of three days here in your build thread, I am in ah and find myself at a total loss of words GEAT WORK!!!!
I have started reading because I have got two 64s that I need to replace floors and door sills on and got way more than I bargained for not just how to dos that will help me on my trucks but some positive life lessons as well Thank You
I will be eagerly waiting every update to see what you are up to next
now I must do something constructive

[bubba327]

Yes Alan you did . Other searchs around the internet show lots of guys prefer Gold for the heavier and vertical work and extreme for the finish work and spot putty/Glaze. Summer Heat is not an issue right now , It is way below freezing here tonight . I will wait until warmer days before starting the body work.
I think I will start with the Gold since a lot will end up on the floor.
Thanks again Alan

[allaboutchevelles]

Hey guys, I had just asked the same questions about a month ago. After I went down to carquest and saw the price of the rage filler for 60 dollars, I instead bought the 3M body filler for 30 dollars. Im no body man plus im not building a show truck, only a weekend cruiser. I have used it a few times so far and seems to spread pretty good with no pinholes. If anyone has had any issues with this filler please let me know, thanks. Thats my .02

my build thread 64 C10: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=439559

[sdailey]

Here's a pic of the guru at work. I knew how to remove paint by sanding it, but apparently Alan prefers the "set a fire to it and remove it method".

[daverod]

I use the same method to get rid of bondo.

[Palf70Step]

I used the same method (sorta of...a welder) to get rid of 6 inches of hair

[bubba327]

Just noticed that "Alan's Classic" is now listed in the moderator section!
Thank you!!
Now you have an official reason to spend lots of time online!!

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 56taskforce

Allen I just spent the better part of three days here in your build thread, I am in ah and find myself at a total loss of words GEAT WORK!!!!
I have started reading because I have got two 64s that I need to replace floors and door sills on and got way more than I bargained for not just how to dos that will help me on my trucks but some positive life lessons as well Thank You
I will be eagerly waiting every update to see what you are up to next
now I must do something constructive

Thanks taskforce, your probably more familiar with my truck than I am at the moment. I have PADD "Project attention Defeciet Disorder" I can't stay focused on any one thing. My goal in the near future is to button up the engine, get the glass in, finish the bed, hood and fenders.

Originally Posted by bubba327

Just noticed that "Alan's Classic" is now listed in the moderator section!
Thank you!!
Now you have an official reason to spend lots of time online!!

What have I gotten myself into. J/K My wife ask me last night when I told her "Does that mean you will be on the computer even more now." I just want to give back to a great Forum.

[56taskforce]

I have PADD "Project attention Defeciet Disorder" I can't stay focused on any one thing.

Like I can focus on any one thing I have two 64s one GMC and one Chevy then there is two 56s one GMC and one Chevy then a 57 Chevy and a 71 Chevy. That is three two tons, one one and a half ton, and one one ton and they are all dump trucks. You see I not only have many they are big You can see the 56 here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...335636&page=17posting #412 it is a work in progress. The 64 GMC is kind of a rust bucket but has pretty much all new drive train I use it to pull a 12 ton equipment trailer and a 14,000 lbs mini excavator around, The 64 Chevy is a just started project, the 71 is the first I started but got put on the back burner in fact I think I am going to pull the dump box off and turn it in to a slammed dually pickup, I have been thinking about using step side fenders and a fleet side box to build a never offered but factory looking dually box. The 57 Chevy and the 56 GMC are pretty much parts trucks that I am ready to remove all useable parts from and scrap the rest to help fund the others.
So you think you have PADD

BTW Keep watching although you have some pretty big shoes to fill and I am not even going to try I will be starting a build thread for my 64 C60 soon I hope

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 56taskforce

Like I can focus on any one thing I have two 64s one GMC and one Chevy then there is two 56s one GMC and one Chevy then a 57 Chevy and a 71 Chevy. That is three two tons, one one and a half ton, and one one ton and they are all dump trucks. You see I not only have many they are big You can see the 56 here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...335636&page=17posting #412 it is a work in progress. The 64 GMC is kind of a rust bucket but has pretty much all new drive train I use it to pull a 12 ton equipment trailer and a 14,000 lbs mini excavator around, The 64 Chevy is a just started project, the 71 is the first I started but got put on the back burner in fact I think I am going to pull the dump box off and turn it in to a slammed dually pickup, I have been thinking about using step side fenders and a fleet side box to build a never offered but factory looking dually box. The 57 Chevy and the 56 GMC are pretty much parts trucks that I am ready to remove all useable parts from and scrap the rest to help fund the others.
So you think you have PADD

BTW Keep watching although you have some pretty big shoes to fill and I am not even going to try I will be starting a build thread for my 64 C60 soon I hope

I'd say you are ate up with PADD. I'm just trying to concentrate on one project now. There isn't enough time in the day for any others.

Slowing down at work some. Also found out they will be renovating our bodyshop in a few months. That means I need to get it done and out of there before the contractors show up. Blocked some on it today.

[daverod]

Needed somthing to get you going.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by daverod

Needed somthing to get you going.

Now I have a deadline. So to speak.

I'm thinking about squaring these edges off what do y'all think. The more I look at it the more I need to do it. Or am I just being anal? Most will not even notice it when looking at it. I've spent a lot of time looking at it while making it and sanding it. Getting it smooth on the lower inner corners where it is attached to the inner bedside is a PITA.

[ruffrida2005]

I think it would look cleaner if it was squared off.

[daverod]

Is'nt it covered by the wood? If it is then your way to anal, but do it anyway.

[Strodder]

Yeah what Dave said??? Square it off or round it off. Looks like factory the way it is now. Which is good too.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

I think it would look cleaner if it was squared off.

Originally Posted by daverod

Is'nt it covered by the wood? If it is then your way to anal, but do it anyway.

No, it sits on top of the wood.

Originally Posted by Strodder

Yeah what Dave said??? Square it off or round it off. Looks like factory the way it is now. Which is good too.

Thanks for the reinforcement. Something else to do. Yeah!!


Wiped the front of the fenders and ground the hood. While sanding the fender I noticed I didn't weld all the way around. You'd think as long as I have been doing this it wouldn't happen. Oh well.

[daverod]

Hood looks nice. I'm still sanding on mine.

[shortbed70]

I thought you already had your hood done? Guess I was wrong..Looking good Alan
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[56taskforce]

It all looks great if that flang is hidden under the wood it is great like it is if it is on top of the wood make it so it is under IMO

[56taskforce]

I think Alan flys through for a drive by posting then he is gone again in a flash

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by daverod

Hood looks nice. I'm still sanding on mine.

Thanks Dave, gotta love the sanding part.

Originally Posted by shortbed70

I thought you already had your hood done? Guess I was wrong..Looking good Alan
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I did, but I bought a rust free GMC hood.

Originally Posted by 56taskforce

It all looks great if that flang is hidden under the wood it is great like it is if it is on top of the wood make it so it is under IMO

Don't need another project right now

Originally Posted by 56taskforce

I think Alan flys through for a drive by posting then he is gone again in a flash

Keeps ya on your toes. Speaking of which this is another drive by.

[Alan's Classic]

I think I have mentioned this earlier. I thought about using a weatherstrip from a late model car trunk for the seal between the inner fender to the firewall. I found one today and tested to see how it looks. I haven't installed on the truck yet. Right now I'm thinking it will be better than factory. What do ya'll think? The only thing I forsee is the inner reinforcement metal will rust.