my radical 60 build

[Oklahoma]

Looks Cool

[jonzcustomshop]

Originally Posted by brandon283

thats true. i figured since i was going through all the work i might as well chop it, but theonly reason im going though all this work and not just swapping cabs is its a matching number truck...so idk yet, maybe i should leave it stock .. how did ur door and roof pillars all work out? it looks like it has worked out good? i might only need to widen it like 1.4-1/2 inch? how bout length?

urs looks amazing tho, i love the 60s show car kinda look.

you'll have to look back through the pics some, but the rear roof post required quite a bit of work to get it to match up
I did not need to lengthen the roof, however you would have to either lengthen the top of the door, or as I did change the back edge of the door to get it all to line up.

the front post was just straight down and everything lined up. I did remove a portion of the inner garnish moulding to line things up and access the inner roof brace inside the post for welding.

[brandon283]

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

you'll have to look back through the pics some, but the rear roof post required quite a bit of work to get it to match up
I did not need to lengthen the roof, however you would have to either lengthen the top of the door, or as I did change the back edge of the door to get it all to line up.

the front post was just straight down and everything lined up. I did remove a portion of the inner garnish moulding to line things up and access the inner roof brace inside the post for welding.

i decided im not chopping it now, and also not shaving drip rails. thanks for the advice tho. ..maybe on i will chop the next one haha got my roof all cut off, i am finished the driver side, and am putting a differant a pillar on the passenger side now. i got the inneer brace welded in and a bunch of holes fixed. i should have it welded on tonight. i am waiting on the panel above the windshield, soon as i got that the roof can all go on

[watahyahknow]

if you work the spotwelds loose and step the inner and outer part of the pilar you have a lot more reference to check if its on straight a lot more room to put clamps on and keep it in place and a lot less chance it will flex and crack the paint over the butweld at a later date it will be a lot of work to work them loose though

never mind i was just looking through the pics again that would only complicate things more

[brandon283]

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

if you work the spotwelds loose and step the inner and outer part of the pilar you have a lot more reference to check if its on straight a lot more room to put clamps on and keep it in place and a lot less chance it will flex and crack the paint over the butweld at a later date it will be a lot of work to work them loose though

its difficult to explain without pictures, i will post some once i have the roof on again to show how it went. i have the outside skin of the pillar off, i drilled the welds with a spotweld cutter. there is an inner brace behind that(which i replaced from the myohter cab) and then the interior panel that you see when u sit in the truck, so i lined the inner brace up to the interior panel, and will also line the outside piller piece to all that. i will put the door on and check how the windshield fits befor i weld it up,. im butt welding the outside panel on, so i should have next to no filler in this area. right now everything is cut out on the passenger side of the cab. i had a brace between the door frame, but it got in the way. and i took measurements and decided just to line it up later. the cab didnt move at all yet anyway.

[watahyahknow]

from wat i read we both have the same idea

[lukey]

How in the HECK have I been missing this post???????????? This truck is awesome! My dream has always been to build a 60s style kustom, and as soon as my 65 is finished for my wife to drive, thats exactly what I am doing!! I love all the step by step photos. helps alot to see how this is done, and how you are measuring for cuts. this is the stuff none of the magazines show,,,the inside work. anyways, enough of my flapping! Good work and keep us posted PLEASE!!!!!!!!

[Joey~AP]

Mad skillz, my friend!

[87 chevy silverado]

that is a awesome truck/car ok TRUCK

[65Custom]

Man That is some Hard Core metal work. I thought that I had my work cut out for me on mine only to see this, what great work and a cool ride

Can't wait to see the finished product, keep up the great work

[jonzcustomshop]

Originally Posted by Oklahoma

Looks Cool

Originally Posted by lukey

How in the HECK have I been missing this post???????????? This truck is awesome! My dream has always been to build a 60s style kustom, and as soon as my 65 is finished for my wife to drive, thats exactly what I am doing!! I love all the step by step photos. helps alot to see how this is done, and how you are measuring for cuts. this is the stuff none of the magazines show,,,the inside work. anyways, enough of my flapping! Good work and keep us posted PLEASE!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Joey~AP

Mad skillz, my friend!

Originally Posted by 87 chevy silverado

that is a awesome truck/car ok TRUCK

Originally Posted by 65Custom

Man That is some Hard Core metal work. I thought that I had my work cut out for me on mine only to see this, what great work and a cool ride

Can't wait to see the finished product, keep up the great work

thanks for the compliments !
It was cold this winter, and I was lazy!, so nothing new to report as of now..

my to do list:
grind welds on roof and paint them so they don't rust.
get windshield done
install headers
install converter lock-up for the 2004r trans
start on blending the front fenders to the doors.
+ lots of other welding and grinding

we'll see how long it takes me now that spring is here.

[protrash64]

Hurry up!!

[jonzcustomshop]

hey!
a tiny bit of progress....
getting the new windshield shape has been tough... I have heard all sorts of ideas from making a fiberglass buck for a windshield to framing the shape out with aluminum and wire...
the biggest issue was that the glass sits a 1/4 inch away from the pinchweld, and a 1/4 inch up from it, when it is in the gasket. If I shaped the glass to the pinchweld, it would end up being too big.....

so what I did was use an old windshield gasket, it sat in the bottom fine , but I had to screw it into the roof at the top to keep it in place.
I cut away the glass retaining portion of the gasket on the outside, on the corners and top, I left the center of the bottom intact.
then I used a flat piece of cardboard for the center leaving the corners off.
after I got that cut to fit, I started making the corners with lots of tape and many triangle shaped pieces of poster board.

on the photos of the windshield you can see the pattern where the glass needs to be cut: a little off the top, and some off the lower corners and back.

now I have my pattern, next is how to cut the glass... a bodyshop friend of mine has a diamond tipped rotary blade that he has not tried out yet, and there is the sandblast method... I am not sure which method I will try yet, I only have 2 windshields, the blade would be fast, but the sandblast method is about 99% safe, it just takes something like 6-8 hours...

[jonzcustomshop]

I also spent some time grinding welds on the roof, and put some primer on it so they wont rust...

[jonzcustomshop]

shop has been a little tight this winter!
the elcamino has been back burnered since I started the truck project, then the storage on the convert went away, so it came in for a floor, brakes and an engine... then winter hit, so the truck had to come in , because I had not finished grinding / painting the welds, and no glass yet.... then my wifes 63 project is in the driveway blocking all three of these in....
if I could move around I might be able to clean it

[scotts62]

Cool man looking good!! I have heard some horror stories about guys going through many windshields trying to cut them down but then others that have just the single time. I would hit up a couple glass shops and see if they could cut it for you, just a thought though.

[Alan's Classic]

Nice progress Jon, I wish I had some advice about the glass, but I'm clueless.

[protrash64]

With laminate glass, I believe it has to be cut twice. Once on the outside and then repeated for inside. Then they use a disc to smooth the edges. This is how my side glass was made, I would assume the windshield would be similar.

[watahyahknow]

i have heared of people cutting the glas with a anglegrinder on yalope but my thought on that is that the vibrations and the tention is enough to splinter it
if i was to do that i put the glas in a big container with mineral oil in it untill its a little above the glass that way you can still get to it with the anglewheel without dunking the electric part intoo the oil and the vibrations get dampened
should the grinder drop out youre hands you can still use it since the mineral oil doesnt conduct electricity they use that stuff even in transformers hanging of those electricity poles to keep them cool and somewat quet
and should it shatter the parts dont fly

[tiggamonsta]

I have seen shows on TV where they score both sides, then put lighter fluid on it. They light the lighter fluid to melt the plastic and snap the glass. It looks so simple on TV. Maybe you just need to video tape it to go smooth.

[watahyahknow]

Originally Posted by tiggamonsta

I have seen shows on TV where they score both sides, then put lighter fluid on it. They light the lighter fluid to melt the plastic and snap the glass. It looks so simple on TV. Maybe you just need to video tape it to go smooth.

thats with flat glass windshields for ford hot rods like the type A and the sort , they do break the cut on both sides before they add the lighterfluid
i can immagine when you have done it more often you get a routine that makes it look simple

[jonzcustomshop]

check this link out: http://www.cadvision.com/blanchas/54...indshield.html
this is the process I plan on using for cutting the windshield.

[scotts62]

Thats pretty cool but going to take a while huh. Let us know how it turns out.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

check this link out: http://www.cadvision.com/blanchas/54...indshield.html
this is the process I plan on using for cutting the windshield.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to forget about a chop now. Too much trouble.

[fryer1979]

Amazing build, I love the crazy customs. Can't wait for the finished product.