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RockTonka · 10-02-2011, 01:52 AM

Thanx yall', appreciate the kind remarks and glad ya like it.

We've been mulling over whether to use the existing frame or not and after much consideration have decided that it would be easier to build a new frame and swap the body over.
I think it will be better, cheaper, and faster...if that's possible??

Anyways, still baby steps for the time being. Spent a couple hours making a new mount for the slave...didn't like the AA version.

1985-GMC · 10-02-2011, 02:50 AM

Awesome fab work!

RockTonka · 10-26-2011, 09:16 PM

Thanks, but when your progress is as slow as mine it's easy to spend time on the little things. For me, I'm saving up $ for the next part of the puzzle and then trying to find time to piece it together

...so it goes slow.

Case in point, a month plus and all I've managed is a new Muncie triple gear PTO. But, the truck is still running and I've probably put 100+ miles on it over the last few weeks just enjoying our cooler weather!

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-26-2011, 11:15 PM

That's a very nice PTO!

coops714x4 · 02-02-2012, 03:54 AM

VERY cool build, can't wait to see more. Coop

thirdstreettito · 02-02-2012, 10:42 AM

Got a price and part number on that PTO? That thing is sweet!

_Ogre · 02-02-2012, 02:00 PM

amazing build. very cool to have a dump bed apache...

lot's of wow factor here, i wouldn't want to put this on my chest to install it.

if your interested... check out my build link for how i mounted my hydroboost in the stock mc location w/remote reservoir.

RockTonka · 02-02-2012, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thirdstreettito

Got a price and part number on that PTO? That thing is sweet!

Around $500 or so...

RockTonka · 02-02-2012, 08:32 PM

Ogre & Coops...Thanks!!

RockTonka · 02-02-2012, 08:43 PM

Picked up a mid 80's, 1 ton, CC, 4X4 frame that had been lengthened 16" in it's prior life (done right though). Thinking I'm gonna cut a couple feet out of the middle (the area the rises behind the cab) to gain a straight front to rear frame and use that as the new backbone.

RockTonka · 02-02-2012, 08:51 PM

My son worked with C&M Performance to modify one of their billet rear output seal housings to work with a HAD driveline brake set-up...surprised me with those and a couple other NP205 billet pieces for Christmas.

Kim57 · 02-02-2012, 09:31 PM

That stuff sure looks nice.
Kim

C@rnut001 · 02-02-2012, 09:38 PM

I really like what you are doing with your truck. I also think it is great that your kids got it for you and you have been working together on it to get it together. Keep it up and thanks for posting your updates. I used to have a '69 one ton Chevy and I miss that ol' truck...I bet you love driving yours around, even with the old I6 in it. You have chosen my favorite engine for it and it will be really sweet when you get it together...

MrBeast · 02-02-2012, 11:25 PM

Man that is quite the awesome engine and tranny setup.

I love the NV4500, put one in my 72, and now I am fixing to stuff one in my CJ7. It is a great transmission.

RockTonka · 02-04-2012, 02:39 AM

Thanks yall', we appreciate the positive feedback!

Wheelie · 02-04-2012, 05:35 PM

Truck is bad ass guys!

cAlvis165 · 03-07-2012, 04:56 PM

Just wanted to say, "Nice Truck!" I'm trying to talk my wife into a '51 1 1/2 ton. I think it would be great to follow your example of driving it and enjoying it while slowly working up to a complete rebuild. Also, your craftsmanship and welding are great. Some of the stuff you made for your son's 4x4 was just amazing. Keep up the good work.

RockTonka · 03-08-2012, 12:22 AM

Thanks cAlvis165 and Wheelie for the props!

It seems to work out well slowly building up parts on the side while still being able to drive and enjoy the truck whenever I want. I don't get burned out looking at a pile of parts that I can't enjoy...I know that eventually I will be able to swap everything over and I enjoy making progress when time and funds allow. It doesn't cost much to keep the truck insured and driveable and that keeps the flame lit.

abebummy26 · 03-08-2012, 10:15 PM

I would really like to do more or less the same thing, to a neighbor of mine's 68 c30 if I can ever get ahold of it. it's a dually 138" wb 327 2v. Former grain truck and power company truck, original paint minimal rust. No dump bed though, current owner uses it as a wood truck.
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RockTonka · 03-08-2012, 11:14 PM

How about a couple engine pics??

My son liked the Edelbrock valve covers/air cleaner we had refurbished and used on mine, more so than I did, so we pulled them off and put them on his.

He was cruising CL and found this shotgun style scoop for cheap, so we chased down some valve covers that kinda matched and dropped them all on mine...I'm digging these more.

1985-GMC · 03-08-2012, 11:27 PM

Nice, I like that!

Kim57 · 03-09-2012, 01:16 AM

Looks real nice.
Kim

oklahomaduner · 03-09-2012, 02:14 AM

Thanks for the donation!

And I need to resubscribe... I hit the wrong button..
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manimal · 05-17-2012, 10:28 AM

That is one sweet truck! I have contemplating one of these to pull my smoker trailer!

Dinos63 · 05-22-2012, 11:14 AM

always the coolest stuff, the work you guys do is so clean and trick i wish we were neighbors

10-02-2011, 01:52 AM	#201
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanx yall', appreciate the kind remarks and glad ya like it. We've been mulling over whether to use the existing frame or not and after much consideration have decided that it would be easier to build a new frame and swap the body over. I think it will be better, cheaper, and faster...if that's possible?? Anyways, still baby steps for the time being. Spent a couple hours making a new mount for the slave...didn't like the AA version. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-02-2011, 02:50 AM	#202
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Awesome fab work! __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

10-26-2011, 09:16 PM	#203
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks, but when your progress is as slow as mine it's easy to spend time on the little things. For me, I'm saving up $ for the next part of the puzzle and then trying to find time to piece it together...so it goes slow. Case in point, a month plus and all I've managed is a new Muncie triple gear PTO. But, the truck is still running and I've probably put 100+ miles on it over the last few weeks just enjoying our cooler weather! Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-26-2011, 11:15 PM	#204
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That's a very nice PTO! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

02-02-2012, 03:54 AM	#205
coops714x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cement Oklahoma Posts: 916	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project VERY cool build, can't wait to see more. Coop __________________ 1971 K20, Coop's beast (project) 1972 C30 wrecker, "Big Ernest" (SOLD) 1975 K5 Blazer (wife's toy) she got it in the divorce 2014 Street Glide Special 1983 K20 Big Block, auto (work horse)

02-02-2012, 10:42 AM	#206
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Got a price and part number on that PTO? That thing is sweet! __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

02-02-2012, 02:00 PM	#207
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,680	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project amazing build. very cool to have a dump bed apache... lot's of wow factor here, i wouldn't want to put this on my chest to install it. if your interested... check out my build link for how i mounted my hydroboost in the stock mc location w/remote reservoir. __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

02-02-2012, 08:32 PM	#209
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Ogre & Coops...Thanks!! __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

02-02-2012, 08:43 PM	#210
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Picked up a mid 80's, 1 ton, CC, 4X4 frame that had been lengthened 16" in it's prior life (done right though). Thinking I'm gonna cut a couple feet out of the middle (the area the rises behind the cab) to gain a straight front to rear frame and use that as the new backbone. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

02-02-2012, 08:51 PM	#211
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project My son worked with C&M Performance to modify one of their billet rear output seal housings to work with a HAD driveline brake set-up...surprised me with those and a couple other NP205 billet pieces for Christmas. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

02-02-2012, 09:31 PM	#212
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That stuff sure looks nice. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

02-02-2012, 09:38 PM	#213
C@rnut001 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 405	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I really like what you are doing with your truck. I also think it is great that your kids got it for you and you have been working together on it to get it together. Keep it up and thanks for posting your updates. I used to have a '69 one ton Chevy and I miss that ol' truck...I bet you love driving yours around, even with the old I6 in it. You have chosen my favorite engine for it and it will be really sweet when you get it together... __________________ C@rnut001 (Owen) Alaskan Members Check In http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...22#post5094422 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...18#post6778618

02-02-2012, 11:25 PM	#214
MrBeast high-Tech Red Neck Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Livingston, MT/On my boat WA/BC/AK Posts: 2,294	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Man that is quite the awesome engine and tranny setup. I love the NV4500, put one in my 72, and now I am fixing to stuff one in my CJ7. It is a great transmission. __________________ "He used to be a pretty nice feller, now he's a welder!"

02-04-2012, 02:39 AM	#215
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks yall', we appreciate the positive feedback! __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

02-04-2012, 05:35 PM	#216
Wheelie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 319	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Truck is bad ass guys! __________________ My '59 Build Thread



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03-07-2012, 04:56 PM	#217
cAlvis165 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: N.E. OH Posts: 214	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Just wanted to say, "Nice Truck!" I'm trying to talk my wife into a '51 1 1/2 ton. I think it would be great to follow your example of driving it and enjoying it while slowly working up to a complete rebuild. Also, your craftsmanship and welding are great. Some of the stuff you made for your son's 4x4 was just amazing. Keep up the good work.

03-08-2012, 12:22 AM	#218
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks cAlvis165 and Wheelie for the props! It seems to work out well slowly building up parts on the side while still being able to drive and enjoy the truck whenever I want. I don't get burned out looking at a pile of parts that I can't enjoy...I know that eventually I will be able to swap everything over and I enjoy making progress when time and funds allow. It doesn't cost much to keep the truck insured and driveable and that keeps the flame lit. __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

03-08-2012, 10:15 PM	#219
abebummy26 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Haven, MO Posts: 1,243	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I would really like to do more or less the same thing, to a neighbor of mine's 68 c30 if I can ever get ahold of it. it's a dually 138" wb 327 2v. Former grain truck and power company truck, original paint minimal rust. No dump bed though, current owner uses it as a wood truck. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ -Lincoln 1987 GMC S15 (soon to be a chevy clone) 2.5l, 4 speed, no ps, no pb, no ac Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Spoken by Cletus the hillbilly I like stickers... a whole bunch. Last edited by abebummy26; 03-08-2012 at 10:19 PM. Reason: Typo

03-08-2012, 11:14 PM	#220
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project How about a couple engine pics?? My son liked the Edelbrock valve covers/air cleaner we had refurbished and used on mine, more so than I did, so we pulled them off and put them on his. He was cruising CL and found this shotgun style scoop for cheap, so we chased down some valve covers that kinda matched and dropped them all on mine...I'm digging these more. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

03-08-2012, 11:27 PM	#221
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Nice, I like that! __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

03-09-2012, 01:16 AM	#222
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks real nice. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

03-09-2012, 02:14 AM	#223
oklahomaduner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 447	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks for the donation! And I need to resubscribe... I hit the wrong button.. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4x4 My build thread 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually flatbed My Dad's build thread 1966 GMC Custom Trim Big Back Window W/351e My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 (Not So) All Original Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Dad's Time-Killing Project Truck

05-17-2012, 10:28 AM	#224
manimal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 3,066	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That is one sweet truck! I have contemplating one of these to pull my smoker trailer! __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ -Lance 2000 Chevy C2500, 5.7, 4L80e 1999 Suburban K2500, 7.4, 4L80e 1980 Camaro..son's car...PROJECT

05-22-2012, 11:14 AM	#225
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