1966 F100 Short Bed Styleside Metal/Body/Paint Work

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

As usual, I'm amazed. The custom tooling and sheet metal work looks awesome and seamless!

Thanks Dale!

Originally Posted by Russell Ashley

"The logical thing to do is buy a milling machine to help make dies for the Pullmax, then make door bottom dies... right?" Totally logical, LOL. Now I know why I love this thread.

It makes even more sense to buy one that needs some work before you can start using it

[Ol Blue K20]

Originally Posted by theastronaut

The last time the owner visited he brought a set of reproduction knobs and bezels for me to graft onto the Vintage Air switches.




The switches have M7-.75 threads and the original retaining nuts had a small enough ID that they could be drilled/tapped to match. The shaft of the switch is 15/64ths, and the new knob's ID were smaller with enough material so they could be drilled out to match.




Retaining nut drilled/tapped, then shortened.






Knob insert drilled oversize.




Test assembled on the VA-supplied backing plate.








The original switch holes were dimpled to clear the bulge on the back of the bezel. The new holes I made earlier weren't, so I had to add those.






I used a large washer for the OD of the dimple, and marked the center of it with making tape to center it behind the switch hole. This was clamped in place with a plate behind it to set the depth of the dimple.






Another piece of tape with a center hole was marked to locate a 1/2" socket. I used a large C clamp to press the socket into the hole of the washer to create the dimple. A 1/8" hole was drilled for the locating tabs on the switch.






Switches mounted.

Sweet!

[mongocanfly]

Nice work on that vice John ..!!...never thought about boiling with purple power...I like me some pp..
As always...some more great work..!!

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

Nice work on that vice John ..!!...never thought about boiling with purple power...I like me some pp..
As always...some more great work..!!

Thanks Greg! Idk what I'd do without Purple Power lol. I just used it (the stronger Zep version actually)to clean a carpet set from a new Festiva I bought recently. I pre-soaked the nastiest spots full strenth, then used the detergent attachment on the pressure washer to soak the rest, then pressure washed the stains out. Came out looking almost new.

[theastronaut]

I had stripped the doors awhile back by blasting the inner frame and DA sanding the outer skin, but there were rust specs that didn't sand off. I didn't want to blast these and warp the skin so I used Ospho to soak the spots, along with scrubbing with a scuff pad and a stainless brush on the worst spots. Most came off quickly but a few spots took awhile to clear up between scrubbing and soaking. I kept the Ospho wet and thoroughly rinsed the doors to neutralize the acid so there would be no issues with epoxy adhesion.







Starting to clear up.






99% clear, one spot was more stubborn. Blasting the door would've meant spending more time on this spot with the blaster, so the metal would've stretched more in this spot than anywhere else, leaving a high spot. Acid with epoxy isn't ideal but I felt better about doing it this way to prevent warping. This is another reason I don't trust "rust converters" or Por15 type products... even with abrading the surface to bare metal all over there were deep enough pits that a spray on rust converter wouldn't have been able to penetrate into fully to kill the rust at the base where it's most active.




I found a spot of rust through where a brace is spot welded to the frame, so I cut it out and blasted the inside the inner frame. There was a bit of flash rust from rinsing the Ospho off that needed to be blasted off the inner frame too.




After light blasting I welded in a patch, then brushed on two coats of epoxy to seal up the inner frame and bracing.

[theastronaut]

The rear of the door jambs had a couple layers that stuck out for a tab to hold the inner and outer panels together. This looked pretty terrible, and even with the planned carpet and inner panels there would be no way to make this area look neatly finished.






Test fitting the area with a carpet scrap and panel board... it still looks unfinished.




Flange cut flush with the jamb edge. This left a recess that needed filling in.










Filler piece formed and tacked in place.




Layers welded together, filler panel fully welded in, and welds smoothed.








Test fitting again, much cleaner looking than before.

[mongocanfly]

boy that carpet cleaned up great...and nice touch on the seam replacement..
John..question...when you brush on the epoxy like ive seen you and Robert do in those hard to reach places, do you mix it like you would if you were gonna spray it.?..for some reason it looks thicker ..

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

boy that carpet cleaned up great...and nice touch on the seam replacement..
John..question...when you brush on the epoxy like ive seen you and Robert do in those hard to reach places, do you mix it like you would if you were gonna spray it.?..for some reason it looks thicker ..

I mix it the same 1:1 ratio but give it a longer flash time between coats. I think it's just the texture from the brush marks making it look thicker.

[BlueJeep]

Looks great as always! Where do you get the little "glue brush" that you used and is that a one time use thing or can you clean it effectively?

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by BlueJeep

Looks great as always! Where do you get the little "glue brush" that you used and is that a one time use thing or can you clean it effectively?

Thanks! They're one time use, we buy them by the bag from our glass suppliers for applying windshield urethane primer on pinchwelds.


Here's a link to them, might be a better deal out there but these popped up with a quick google search.

https://www.amazon.com/Daubers-Leath...72BN78NG&psc=1

[theastronaut]

I started blasting the cab and the passenger floor had pretty deep pits. I remembered the other F100 having rust in the seams between the floors and cab mounts so I decided to go ahead and cut both floor pans out to avoid future problems.


Driver side-






Passenger side-








Body mounts blasted.








Two coats of epoxy.






Fabbed a new passenger side patch. This has a bit of a reverse curve in it so I used the linear stretch die in the planishing hammer to create the drop off while keeping the upper half completely flat.




More of the driver side was pitted so I bought a new pan for that side. It fit pretty well after a little trimming.












The owner had cut the top of the tunnel out to fit the T56, so I made a new taller tunnel. I used the Pullmax to add an original style bead around the top perimeter, bent the edges over, then used the linear stretch die to curve the front up. I made a template with the shrinker as a guide for shaping the curve.

[theastronaut]

The original hand brake was deleted since it would be in the way of the clutch master cylinder for the T56. The owner decided on a tunnel mounted e-brake instead. I made a backing plate out of 16g on the Pullmax to add some strength to the top of the tunnel since the mounting area will see some strain when the brakes are applied.




Mounting the handle as intended left very little room for your hand to get between the floor and handle- even less once padding and carpet is added.







Part of that problem was a gap between the last tooth of the ratchet section and the base where the release lever rests, so the handle could droop with a bit of free play between the base and the first notch.






I welded up the base to take up the free space so the lever can't tilt down past the first tooth.




I also flipped the front mounting pads to the top of the panel to angle the handle up slightly more.




With the mounting pads flipped the bolt heads were sticking up too far to be covered over with carpet padding, so I welded the bolts into the brackets upside down to work as studs, then cut the bolt heads off. I also shaved down the rear bolt heads so they'd have a lower profile. Compare the gap between the boot bezel and the floor in the last pic to the one I posted above.










Reinforcement plate and tunnel prepped for welding.

[theastronaut]

I needed to make a hole in the tunnel for the shifter, but the shifter was too close to the seat as it was.






Shifter assembly flipped around for more seat clearance, e-brake mounted to the tunnel, and shifter hole punched in the tunnel for a test fit. I positioned the e-brake lever so that the both boot bezels will line up evenly at the front. With the trans in first gear there will be room between the shifter and seat to easily reach the e-brake handle.








The gas pedal is drive by wire and needed to be mounted. The spring tension is fairly high so I made a 16g plate to spread out the load on the firewall. This will also let me clamp the pedal in a few different locations and pick the one that feels the best before permanently mounting it. I'll measure the brake pedal location in the donor truck and mount the gas pedal in a spot that makes heel/toe downshifting possible.








While the weather was too wet for blasting, I started planning for the upholstery. The tank is under the bed now so the back of the cab will have an upholstered panel. I made a 16g flange for the lower edge of the panel to clip into, then roughed out paper patterns of the panels and clip locations. These are things that are better to do before paint.






The headliner will be fabricated from aluminum panels so I patterned b-pillar covers as well. We have the donor roof's inner structure to make the headliner pattern from.






Edges defined with fine line tape and sharpie marks.




Clip holes punched so the locations can be easily transferred to the final panels.




Firewall and kick panels were also patterned.








I was hoping to have all of the cab blasted by now, but the weather has been wet on and off for the last week. But, contrary to the usual "blast with one hand, prime with the other" mindset, I like letting it sit in bare metal for awhile after blasting. This shows all of the places that weren't blasted well enough- humidity causes any rust that's deep in a pitted spot that wasn't cleaned out 100% to start growing again. These are areas that were pitted, and rust deep in the pits wasn't fully blasted to clean gray metal. It's not hard to overlook extremely tiny specs like this while you're blasting between the amount of area you're trying to cover and the lens of the blasting hood getting dusty. Letting it sit until missed areas pop back out then going back with the blaster to target those areas is a good way to make sure every square inch and every tiny rust pit is 100% rust free before the epoxy goes on. These spots were invisible immediately after blasting and only showed up days later.

[Ol Blue K20]

I'm absolutely amazed as usual. Looks great!

[mongocanfly]

x2..!!!

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

I'm absolutely amazed as usual. Looks great!

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

x2..!!!

Thanks!!


Anyone know whats up with the view counter? I noticed it was up around 130 on Tuesday, all guests. It's been way up over the usual 1-2 for the last few days.

[mongocanfly]

John, ,I've noticed those numbers have been all over the place for a fairly long time now

[aggie91]

Nice work again on this one John. Your skills are over the top and you do a great job explaining what and why you are doing it.

[Russell Ashley]

I'm amazed, as usual. Your posts can be used for an instruction manual.

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by aggie91

Nice work again on this one John. Your skills are over the top and you do a great job explaining what and why you are doing it.

Originally Posted by Russell Ashley

I'm amazed, as usual. Your posts can be used for an instruction manual.

Thanks for the compliments!!


There was a indention stamped into the passenger side of the original tunnel that needed to be flattened before I could start fitting the new tunnel.




After using a hammer and dolly to flatten the indention. The flange needed shrinking since stamping the indentation stretched the metal.




Using a tuck tool to form a tuck, then hammering the tuck flat to shrink the high area.






The top of the tuck is hammered in first to lock in the tuck, then the rest is hammered flat which shrinks the area. This is after one tuck.






A second tuck got the flange straightened out. This view also shows the rear rounded corners of the tunnel that were later cut out and reshaped to fit the raised tunnel.




A few vids on tuck shrinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkaCJ5gC3jI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUQghpUVohU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI-7lyaoiz4


With the flange straight I trimmed both the cab floor and new tunnel so the tunnel slightly overlapped the floor, then used a scribe to mark the trim line. The shape of the new tunnel and the floor was still slightly different, I'm guessing from stress in the original floor from the stamping process. I tacked the places that did fit up, then marked out a grid inside and out so dad could hold the dolly on one side while I hammered the other side to bring the panels into better alignment. I had to do a bit of heat shrinking to bring a couple of areas back into shape.

I forgot to take pics, but the back rounded corners were cut out, reshaped with the shrinker/stretcher and a section of round tube in the vise as a dolly, then tacked back in with the front edge about 1.25" higher than the factory position, so I had to make a triangle shaped filler strip under the rear corners.










Before pics of the stock tunnel. The new tunnel retains the same basic shape, bead detail, and offset at the front driver side for more throttle pedal clearance.






The fuel line hole isn't needed anymore, so I cut a plug and welded it closed. The owner will be bringing the clutch pedal setup soon for me to mock up. I'll work on blasting the cab and get started bodyworking the roof and rear of the cab until then.

[mongocanfly]

Really nice work on the tunnel John..!!
Funny you listed Wrays video...I've been watching alot of his videos lately..his stuff showed up in suggested viewing while I was watching some of Robert's videos..amazing talent...all of you

[MP&C]

Beautiful work John!

[67ChevyRedneck]

Great work as always!

This is the first time I've noticed the "custom steering wheel"

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

Really nice work on the tunnel John..!!
Funny you listed Wrays video...I've been watching alot of his videos lately..his stuff showed up in suggested viewing while I was watching some of Robert's videos..amazing talent...all of you

Thanks! Wray explains flexible shape patterns and form vs area really well. Really helpful channel to watch.

Originally Posted by MP&C

Beautiful work John!

Thanks Robert!

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Great work as always!

This is the first time I've noticed the "custom steering wheel"

I'd love to watch someone attempt to park the truck with the original slow ratio steering box and the chopped up wheel with 1/3rd of the grip missing I guess parking lots weren't as crowded back then.



Boring stuff first- I mounted the cab on the rotisserie so I could scrape off the undercoating and grind the tunnel welds to prep for blasting. I planished the worst spots along the weld seams to roughly even out the shape, at least the ones I could reach through the shifter opening.






Never ending stream of dust and dirt.




There were quite a few really sharp spot weld blow-outs that I smoothed out with the 2" grinder.




Ready for blasting.




I noticed a few small pin holes in the bottom edges of the cowl sides so I cut both out so I could clean up the inner panel with the blaster. These are reproduced now so I'll get a set ordered in the morning.






Random small holes welded and smoothed. The factory punched drain holes in some of the beads so I welded those up too.

[theastronaut]

And the fun stuff... the owner brought the hydraulic clutch master cylinder setup from Modern Driveline and the pedal assembly to the shop today. The pics in the instructions didn't look anything like the '66 firewall and the box was marked 61-66 so I looked up pics of '61-'64 firewalls, knowing that they were different. Seems like the kit was designed for the different 61-64 firewall and pedal assembly.

Instruction pic-




Wider 61-64 pedal mount with straight pedals. 65/66 have curved pedals and a narrower pedal assembly mounting pad.




This vid shows the problem with mounting the kit to 65/66 pedals and firewall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeIGHAxHDiY


This was the starting point of the clutch pedal, it was pretty crooked and the pedal pad plate was welded on too low compared to the brake pedal pad.




A 24" adjustable wrench and the vise worked to easily straighten the kinks out. I still need to relocate the pedal pad.






The instructions didn't say how far away from the pedal pivot point the pushrod mount needed to be for the correct throw, so I had to measure the master cylinder travel (~2 3/16")...






Then I set the pedal up with a stack of shims at the floor to replicate padding and carpet, and I added a 1/16" shim on top of the old top stop to simulate a taller new bumper since the old one was flattened out a bit.




That set the maximum travel of the pedal. I found the point that had 2 3/16" travel and marked it- about 6 1/8" away from the pedal pivot.




The mount area needed to be spaced over so I made a pattern and made a 3/16" thick strap to weld in place.






Smoothing out the welds with a carbide burr for the inside corners.










Firewall drilled to mount the master cylinder and linkage. In the instructions and video it shows the m/c being mounted at an angle which looked wrong, and the linkage hanging downward so it was more visible under the dash. I drilled the m/c holes vertical instead and installed the linkage upside down to hide it better. The offset bolt pattern kicked the linkage closer to the pedal assembly this way for less angle on the heim linkage.






Linkage adjusted, checking linkage angles with the pedal in and out.






Enough room for a ~10" booster.