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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Fun to watch I'm sure. Stressful on my end undoubtably. Much to learn. Many problems to overcome.
I never would have thought I'd go that route. I've always been a 4/6 guy. But lately I've realized that 4/6 is now very modest, whereas twenty years ago, instant hero status. Quote:
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Absolutely. I have a trick up my sleeve on that area. Hidden in the store room in the back of my shop. To be disclosed later. I do appreciate that. I'm sure I'll wear you out with stupid questions. I'm thinking this build might take a ghetto turn. I absolutely, number one priority, want to get it completed. That will likely mean much less detail spent on the little stuff. I'm setting myself up a schedule of winter build and on the road by next spring/summer. I will absolutely have to focus on not letting scope creep set in.
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
What's life without a little stress?
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
I couldn't remember if you have bags already or not but pro performance had the dominator 2600 for $72 each today. Just saw it on Facebook...
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Paul,
Thank you, I did see that on Facebook and I ordered a set of four within minutes of him posting it. The price is good, but the free shipping sealed the deal for me. I'm expecting to come into a pile of money this week. It should be enough to let me see this build through the winter in a fairly modest fashion. As soon as I get my hands on it I'm going to order my rear kit. I'm not going Porterbuilt on my rear kit simply due to cost. So far, dropmember and air bags bought. I've made my decisions on the rest of the main components I'll be running. Just as soon as I get paid that money I was talking about....
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Sweet, can't wait to see it laid out!
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Kevin...would you like a shop hand for the porterbuild/ bags install?
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Michael, I'm sure we could figure out something.
I'm tentatively shooting for September 1 start date for the work. My goal is to have it back on the road by first swap meet next year (February).
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Ok.... No PB rear because of budget limitations.
But.... A bagged truck-arm rear set-up is the ticket for ride quality. CPP or PB front T/A x-member & TX Firefighter built rear is my vote ![]()
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Scot,
What does it take to get an ECE trailing member in a 73-87 frame ?
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
No chance of LS power? Just curious since you are making the PB leap, now I'm wondering how far this one will go.
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I can't afford LS power. That's a couple thousand added dollars into the build that I don't have to work with. If I went that route, it would delay the project for months while I accumulated engine and parts and money to put it all together.
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That being the said, the right front x-member w/some OE T/A's will definitely get the job done. I would use them over the CPP or ECE T/A's hands down no questions.
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
I know where there is a nice OE set not being used right now...
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I'm pretty frustrated with the whole rear suspension deal right now.
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Why is this?
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Scot, you know me. I can hardly talk in a straight line for very long without veering off on a tangent. Squirrel !
I initially thought about AOL. Simple and cheap. Then I got under my truck and was looking at my leafs. They are 7 leaf packs. I just can't warm up to the idea of thinning the pack out then subjecting it to fairly extreme cycling afterwards. I've seen more than a few leaf springs break over the years and I just keep thinking about what a catastrophe it would be if that old tired main leaf decided that cycling way up and down was just too much. The best vibe I've gotten so far has been from Ekstensive down in Houston. They sell an all encompassing rear kit for a fair enough price. And their email responses were quick and concise. He said if I'd give him some money, I could drive down in 2-3 weeks and pick up my kit to save shipping. Their kit is a 2 link. I know the downsides to 2 link configurations, but I'm really not convinced it would be too bad of a deal for me. I probably haven't exceeded 70 miles per hour this year. All my driving is tooling around rural highways at 60 miles per hour. And all my engines are stock. I'm like an old man in my driving habits. If I get a ticket, my chief is liable to take away the keys for my fire truck and stick me working on an ambulance or something. Hence, I drive very conservatively. All I ask of my rear suspension when complete is to go up and down when I work the bags and to spend the rest of its time following the front suspension down the road and maybe move up and down somewhat when I hit a dip or bump in the road. Stolen pic..... ![]() I like their kit because it's just a slam dunk to install. You drop the bridge onto the frame until it bottoms out and stitch it in place with the welder. Then bolt the link bars to the factory front hangers. From there finish out the details. Stolen pics... ![]() ![]() And I can live with the amount of intrusion into the bed floor. Stolen pic... ![]() Sure, its a bare bones non flashy setup, but the quick install and low price are attractive. I simply can't let scope creep set in here. Besides from DM install and rear air install, I still have to rebuild my engine and do a bunch of sheetmetal and hopefully paint work over the winter too. I don't want to get bogged down with one aspect of the project. I'm not trying to build a nice truck here. I'm trying to build a budget minded fun truck here that looks somewhat radical.
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I peeked @ the install instructions (tech article) for the 73-87 T/A conversion kit from CPP. Looking @ their front x-member, it appears it's just the standard 6x-72 replacment x-member inverted. I don't care for CPP's kit & never did. But.... T/A's in a 73-87 would be a good thing based on direct comparison of my 68 to the 74. But, the core component for the swap is available.... Note the flanges are between the frame rail lips (PB's unit is not like that) Note the driveshaft hoop is on the bottom (normally on top for 6X-72's) Note the T/A mounting bolt pivot point is low on the mounting bracket (their aftermarket x-member for 67-72's has it @ the top of the bracket)
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
Compare that x-member to the unit sold for 6x-72's w/5" or more drop (Drop Center x-member)
http://www.classicperform.com/Store/...ck/6372LDL.htm I think w/some tweaking if necessary, it could be used. You could still utilize the same Ekstensive bridge/notch & Panhard arrangement. Or... tweak the Ekstensive stuff.
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Wave at it. It's going to live on a farm.
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
From way back when I talked to cpp you could use their kit with factory arms. Porters kit currently DOES NOT work with factory arms. He hasn't made the necessary brackets for the panhard an lower shock bar mounts. One member here that I know of purchased just the trailing arm cross member from cpp but I don't remember if he ever said what it cost. You could go through either company possibly an create your own setup . I went with porter because the quality of his stuff looked do much better. I had planned on using factory arms but he wasn't ready for that yet. With as busy as they are that just might not ever be an option with their stuff. Here's the porterbuilt squarebody trailing arm cross member....
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Here it is installed, there picture, not mine. I hope to start my install next week. I'm sure they would sell you the cross member only if you wanted to do the rest on your own.
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
But, to reiterate, that (bad ass) crossmember won't work with stock arms right ?
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If you'd like I can dig the factory arms out an make sure they fit in the cross member. I'm sure they will though as the only difference between the tube arms I have with my kit an replacement 67-72 ones are those aforementioned brackets. An his 67-72 arms are direct replacement for stock parts....
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This is a picture from the 67-72 stage 2 basic rear kit. See those two c shaped brackets on the far left an right with the tabs welded on them? Those are why the 73-87 kit won't work with factory arms. The pan hard bar uses one set of tabs an the lower shock bar uses the other two.
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Re: My daily driver/beater : How I turned lemons in lemonade
I guess I'll call Porterbuilt tomorrow and see what they say about selling the crossmember. Pan hard bars and shock mounts aren't any concern to me. That stuff is easy to build.
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