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Dale99 · 10-05-2013, 05:53 PM

ok, been kinda boring on my page here. Motor gave out and I just refused to keep working on this motor since its not even close to what I really wanted in it. A friend got side swiped in his 95 Tahoe. So I bought it for the drive train. So today I drug it home, and started taking my jimmy apart while I try to sell what I'm not using off the Tahoe.

**jaros44sr** · 10-05-2013, 07:50 PM

Thats cool, ill watch and learn....

hgs_notes · 10-06-2013, 06:58 PM

Should be a good upgrade. This project just got bigger.

Dale99 · 10-06-2013, 09:07 PM

Jaros, I don't think their is much for you to learn, your doing similar swap! But I do guess everyone has their own ways. I will be doing bare minimum cost wise to get it in and running. However, what I do will be done right, just no upgrades on the motor right now.

hgs, yes, got much bigger. I plan to paint the firewall while its apart, and hopefully fix the right a-post and rocker.

Plan right now... *snickers* is to swap motors around this coming weekend. But if I gotta pull parts to make my money back off this Tahoe, that has priority!!!

whole front clip is off jimmy, motor mounts loose. transcase already removed. All that's left to pull motor/trans on jimmy is transmission mount, fuel line, oil pressure line, and the middle section of my cross member for ease.

hgs_notes · 10-06-2013, 09:35 PM

Are you swapping the engine/tranny/xfercase all together into the Jimmy or just the motor? Going to go with the EFI also?

Dale99 · 10-06-2013, 09:43 PM

I'm doing the lo5 with tbi, the 4l60(e?), then my np205.

So I either have to have trans rebuilt with shorten output shaft, run the adapter and hope my driveshaft has enough distance, or see if I can cut the op-s myself.

hgs_notes · 10-06-2013, 10:50 PM

The original motor mounts are in the rear position which puts the engine closer to the firewall. The mounts can be moved forward a couple inches into existing holes. I'm pretty sure that when guys have swapped in the 700r4 that tranny is about 2" longer and by moving the mounts the original driveshafts would still fit. I'm not sure about the 4l60 dimensions though.

**jaros44sr** · 10-06-2013, 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=Dale99;6302628]Jaros, I don't think their is much for you to learn, your doing similar swap! But I do guess everyone has their own ways. I will be doing bare minimum cost wise to get it in and running. However, what I do will be done right, just no upgrades on the motor right now.

I watch to learn techniques, there are hundreds of ways to accomplish the end. I only offer my knowledge from being around machinery for fifty years, and i want you to have a safe build. Were never to old to learn, and i enjoy watching a creative mind....

Just dont cut costs where strenght of materials is involved.

Wish you luck, and post up lots of pics, shouldnt be hard for you

Didnt ice cream getter shorten his own output shaft?

Dale99 · 10-07-2013, 06:45 AM

hgs, I don't have the stock crossmember or motor mounts. But moving motor forward some has crossed my mind.

jaros. AGree, so many ways to do the same thing. Right, what I do HAVE to buy, I plan to do right with good products. I dunno the build your referencing to. Will have to search on that when I have time.

**jaros44sr** · 10-07-2013, 08:05 AM

Sonosadsack is his forum name, and it is on page one of his build

Dale99 · 10-07-2013, 01:21 PM

ok, just went and looked. I dont think he did anything with the op-s. I think he just made a spacer.

:edit: I just noticed yesterday was 1 year for this project.

Dale99 · 10-11-2013, 08:31 PM

So after a week of posting parting this truck out, about 100 responses, I have sold 1, yes 1 freakin part. Had a no show after I drove an hour to meet his ass. Oh I'm pissed!!!

Anyway, I do have the motor pulled.... after having the engine puller not work right, and puke enough oil back at me to make the bp oil spill look like the oil leak in your grandmas buick. I'm going to clean n paint part of the firewall tomm. Maybe it will be a better day?

hgs_notes · 10-12-2013, 12:35 AM

I feel your pain. Been there, done that.

1 year aint so bad btw. Took me 6 years to get my Jimmy this far.

Dale99 · 10-12-2013, 12:36 PM

I wasn't so much concered with time. Just an observation. I think I have done decent in a years time. I just wish I would have put a motor like this in from the beginning, rather then screwing with carbs n such. I spent more on that motor, then if I would have went and bought a complete 6.0 with 4l60. to drop in.

Anyway, it was raining this morning, so it was feeling a little ....... blue

Dale99 · 10-12-2013, 08:59 PM

So while that was drying, I went to clean my blower box and found a hole. Trying to find just the back plate. I'm not paying 250 for a whole new box.

Started ripping into parts truck.

Also, debating on undercoating the bottom 1/3'ish of the firewall. I am thinking most will be covered with fenderwells, or hidden by the engine.

Dale99 · 10-13-2013, 09:09 PM

moooore progress. I got to where I wanted to be and stopped. I was getting worn out, and need to assess where I am, and whats most important next.

**nbrfd007** · 10-13-2013, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale99

Among all this crappy ball joint stuff. I was finally able to register for an abandon title, and have classic plates

How do you get a abandoned title? Is it better than a bonded title?
Thanks,
Tim

Dale99 · 10-14-2013, 06:49 AM

I ended up having to get a bonded title about a month later. But the title says nothing on the piece of paper about it.

**nbrfd007** · 10-14-2013, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale99

I ended up having to get a bonded title about a month later. But the title says nothing on the piece of paper about it.

Thanks

Dale99 · 10-16-2013, 11:03 AM

Havent gotten much work done because as soon as I walk in the garage, people call wanting parts. Not complaining though, I'm tight on money this week.

Dale99 · 10-18-2013, 07:57 PM

Ok, took today off work.

Got the power steering pump back on, plumbed up. Which required the left exhaust manifold to be on first.
Got the wiring out of the Yukon. Went fairly nice. The headlight harness is separate from the engine harness. So all I really have to remove is the ac wiring.

Took the tailshaft off the trans. Cutting the ops will NOT work. Is going to require getting the advanced adapter shaft and having a rebuild.

Pulled timing chain, it was fairly loose. Installed new one and confirmed my block is machined to be a roller. SCORE!!!

I went to change coolant fittings. Snapped one off in the intake

So Ive got to pull the intake to fix it because an easy out would not work.

Dale99 · 10-19-2013, 08:31 PM

Alright, back is killing me so I knocked it off early today.

Intake pulled, repaired, cleaned, back on. No distrib in yet though.
Modified the orginal elbow for the opus to take my mechanical unit as well.
Timing cover back on, water pump on, balancer on.
wireharness layed in place, and some of the plugs hooked up to see what needs removed.
oil pan pulled. OMG, this oil.

I need to go find my friend and

and educate him on an oil change. I am NOT joking when I say it was thicker then pancake syrup. I pulled the plug, waited a few min. Then walked away for atleast 30, went back and still dripping. I pulled pan anyway and still had about 1-2qts still in it.
I think a month or so ago I posted how I had modified some valve covers to give them some patina. This is what they look like now after no tinker. Just leaving them in the weather.

Dale99 · 10-20-2013, 10:39 PM

oil pan back on
some of the extra wires have been removed
trip to the junkyard netted me all of my broken sensors, throttle peddles to test

trips to the junkyard kill some time, as well fishing out wires in this harness.

**jaros44sr** · 10-21-2013, 09:24 AM

Nice work Dale......
Soooo, do you just clear coat the VC's when you reach the desired patina?

Did the motor bolt up like OEM....

Do i see lifting blocks on your front axle?

Dale99 · 10-23-2013, 10:07 PM

I'm not sure on the vc's yet. I might do more, might leave them un-protected and let them be more natural? *shrugs*

So far motor is in like oem. but due to the 4l60e being longer, I may move it forward. I need to test fit the fan/shroud distance, likely this weekend.

Yes blocks on the front, and I know its not good. I just need to make it run right, then worry about how it handles.

So I have many sources of income, one is thru a model agency since I do photography. Ive been helping more n more. So had a shoot Monday. Wanted me to shoot yest but I couldn't cause daily driver battery died and wanted to edit pics from night before. Tonight I had to build a pc for another company. Then I am to have shoots Thurs, Fri, and Sat. So, with all that, I had to go install my car porn I got in today.

10-05-2013, 05:53 PM	#201
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting ok, been kinda boring on my page here. Motor gave out and I just refused to keep working on this motor since its not even close to what I really wanted in it. A friend got side swiped in his 95 Tahoe. So I bought it for the drive train. So today I drug it home, and started taking my jimmy apart while I try to sell what I'm not using off the Tahoe. Attached Images

10-05-2013, 07:50 PM	#202
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,766	Re: Project 30 years sitting Thats cool, ill watch and learn.... __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

10-06-2013, 06:58 PM	#203
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: Project 30 years sitting Should be a good upgrade. This project just got bigger. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

10-06-2013, 09:07 PM	#204
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting Jaros, I don't think their is much for you to learn, your doing similar swap! But I do guess everyone has their own ways. I will be doing bare minimum cost wise to get it in and running. However, what I do will be done right, just no upgrades on the motor right now. hgs, yes, got much bigger. I plan to paint the firewall while its apart, and hopefully fix the right a-post and rocker. Plan right now... snickers is to swap motors around this coming weekend. But if I gotta pull parts to make my money back off this Tahoe, that has priority!!! whole front clip is off jimmy, motor mounts loose. transcase already removed. All that's left to pull motor/trans on jimmy is transmission mount, fuel line, oil pressure line, and the middle section of my cross member for ease.

10-06-2013, 09:35 PM	#205
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: Project 30 years sitting Are you swapping the engine/tranny/xfercase all together into the Jimmy or just the motor? Going to go with the EFI also? __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

10-06-2013, 09:43 PM	#206
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting I'm doing the lo5 with tbi, the 4l60(e?), then my np205. So I either have to have trans rebuilt with shorten output shaft, run the adapter and hope my driveshaft has enough distance, or see if I can cut the op-s myself.

10-06-2013, 10:50 PM	#207
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: Project 30 years sitting The original motor mounts are in the rear position which puts the engine closer to the firewall. The mounts can be moved forward a couple inches into existing holes. I'm pretty sure that when guys have swapped in the 700r4 that tranny is about 2" longer and by moving the mounts the original driveshafts would still fit. I'm not sure about the 4l60 dimensions though. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

10-06-2013, 11:21 PM	#208
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,766	Re: Project 30 years sitting [QUOTE=Dale99;6302628]Jaros, I don't think their is much for you to learn, your doing similar swap! But I do guess everyone has their own ways. I will be doing bare minimum cost wise to get it in and running. However, what I do will be done right, just no upgrades on the motor right now. I watch to learn techniques, there are hundreds of ways to accomplish the end. I only offer my knowledge from being around machinery for fifty years, and i want you to have a safe build. Were never to old to learn, and i enjoy watching a creative mind.... Just dont cut costs where strenght of materials is involved. Wish you luck, and post up lots of pics, shouldnt be hard for you Didnt ice cream getter shorten his own output shaft? __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

10-07-2013, 06:45 AM	#209
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting hgs, I don't have the stock crossmember or motor mounts. But moving motor forward some has crossed my mind. jaros. AGree, so many ways to do the same thing. Right, what I do HAVE to buy, I plan to do right with good products. I dunno the build your referencing to. Will have to search on that when I have time.

10-07-2013, 08:05 AM	#210
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,766	Re: Project 30 years sitting Sonosadsack is his forum name, and it is on page one of his build __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

10-07-2013, 01:21 PM	#211
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting ok, just went and looked. I dont think he did anything with the op-s. I think he just made a spacer. :edit: I just noticed yesterday was 1 year for this project.

10-11-2013, 08:31 PM	#212
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting So after a week of posting parting this truck out, about 100 responses, I have sold 1, yes 1 freakin part. Had a no show after I drove an hour to meet his ass. Oh I'm pissed!!! Anyway, I do have the motor pulled.... after having the engine puller not work right, and puke enough oil back at me to make the bp oil spill look like the oil leak in your grandmas buick. I'm going to clean n paint part of the firewall tomm. Maybe it will be a better day? Attached Images

10-12-2013, 12:35 AM	#213
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: Project 30 years sitting I feel your pain. Been there, done that. 1 year aint so bad btw. Took me 6 years to get my Jimmy this far. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

10-12-2013, 12:36 PM	#214
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting I wasn't so much concered with time. Just an observation. I think I have done decent in a years time. I just wish I would have put a motor like this in from the beginning, rather then screwing with carbs n such. I spent more on that motor, then if I would have went and bought a complete 6.0 with 4l60. to drop in. Anyway, it was raining this morning, so it was feeling a little ....... blue Attached Images

10-12-2013, 08:59 PM	#215
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting So while that was drying, I went to clean my blower box and found a hole. Trying to find just the back plate. I'm not paying 250 for a whole new box. Started ripping into parts truck. Also, debating on undercoating the bottom 1/3'ish of the firewall. I am thinking most will be covered with fenderwells, or hidden by the engine. Attached Images



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10-13-2013, 09:09 PM	#216
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting moooore progress. I got to where I wanted to be and stopped. I was getting worn out, and need to assess where I am, and whats most important next. Attached Images

10-14-2013, 06:49 AM	#218
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting I ended up having to get a bonded title about a month later. But the title says nothing on the piece of paper about it.

10-16-2013, 11:03 AM	#220
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting Havent gotten much work done because as soon as I walk in the garage, people call wanting parts. Not complaining though, I'm tight on money this week.

10-18-2013, 07:57 PM	#221
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting Ok, took today off work. Got the power steering pump back on, plumbed up. Which required the left exhaust manifold to be on first. Got the wiring out of the Yukon. Went fairly nice. The headlight harness is separate from the engine harness. So all I really have to remove is the ac wiring. Took the tailshaft off the trans. Cutting the ops will NOT work. Is going to require getting the advanced adapter shaft and having a rebuild. Pulled timing chain, it was fairly loose. Installed new one and confirmed my block is machined to be a roller. SCORE!!! I went to change coolant fittings. Snapped one off in the intake So Ive got to pull the intake to fix it because an easy out would not work.

10-19-2013, 08:31 PM	#222
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting Alright, back is killing me so I knocked it off early today. Intake pulled, repaired, cleaned, back on. No distrib in yet though. Modified the orginal elbow for the opus to take my mechanical unit as well. Timing cover back on, water pump on, balancer on. wireharness layed in place, and some of the plugs hooked up to see what needs removed. oil pan pulled. OMG, this oil. I need to go find my friend and and educate him on an oil change. I am NOT joking when I say it was thicker then pancake syrup. I pulled the plug, waited a few min. Then walked away for atleast 30, went back and still dripping. I pulled pan anyway and still had about 1-2qts still in it. I think a month or so ago I posted how I had modified some valve covers to give them some patina. This is what they look like now after no tinker. Just leaving them in the weather. Attached Images

10-20-2013, 10:39 PM	#223
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting oil pan back on some of the extra wires have been removed trip to the junkyard netted me all of my broken sensors, throttle peddles to test trips to the junkyard kill some time, as well fishing out wires in this harness.

10-21-2013, 09:24 AM	#224
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,766	Re: Project 30 years sitting Nice work Dale...... Soooo, do you just clear coat the VC's when you reach the desired patina? Did the motor bolt up like OEM.... Do i see lifting blocks on your front axle? __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

10-23-2013, 10:07 PM	#225
Dale99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NLR, AR Posts: 1,387	Re: Project 30 years sitting I'm not sure on the vc's yet. I might do more, might leave them un-protected and let them be more natural? shrugs So far motor is in like oem. but due to the 4l60e being longer, I may move it forward. I need to test fit the fan/shroud distance, likely this weekend. Yes blocks on the front, and I know its not good. I just need to make it run right, then worry about how it handles. So I have many sources of income, one is thru a model agency since I do photography. Ive been helping more n more. So had a shoot Monday. Wanted me to shoot yest but I couldn't cause daily driver battery died and wanted to edit pics from night before. Tonight I had to build a pc for another company. Then I am to have shoots Thurs, Fri, and Sat. So, with all that, I had to go install my car porn I got in today. Attached Images

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