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![]() So, I ran into a problem acquiring seat belt guide bezels for both side covers. They come with the seat belt assembly and it appears that pickers remove the retaining nut from the belt mount and yank the bezel out with the belt. Most of the seats you see for sale on eBay are missing those pieces. GM only sells them as part of the belt assembly. Lowest price new I found was around $105... each. My local Pick N Pull had nothing that new and the late model yard wants $67 each. It's possible that if I went there in person and explained I only want the small plastic bezel, they might have something that would be otherwise unsellable, but rather than slog thru the mud and the blood and the beer, I machined a pair from 1/8" aluminum plate. Will paint or powder coat them and use a small trim screw to hold them in the recess. And Bob's your uncle.
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Clean solution well executed...nice!
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Vic:
Seems you're very much like me when it comes down to attention to detail... very clean solution you came up with. Abe
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Well, I've encountered somewhat of a setback. Woke up about 3AM to the faint smell of 91 octane. Went downstairs to the shop and the fumes were stronger there. After a little detective work, I found a couple of small drips off the front edge of the tank. No puddles or anything, but still a problem. Went back to bed thinking I probably had a pinhole in one of the welds on the Boyd tank. My reasoning was that I had only put 12 gallons into a 19 gallon tank so it couldn't be from anything on top. Plus, I hadn't run the pump to purge and test the line integrity yet. This morning I jacked the rear of the truck up for a closer look and found that, in fact, the leak is coming from around the submersible pump gasket. How that is possible I don't really know but the miserable truth is that I have to pull the bed back off the truck to fix the leak. Barely room to position the camera up there as it is. Tried looking with a light and inspection mirror, but was unable to get any decent access. Certainly no way to fit hands and tools up there to attempt to tighten the screws around the perimeter of the cover. Stay tuned....
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Hmm I wonder if it will require some sort of special tightening sequence and torque wrench to get the right amount of pressure on each screw.
It also probably wouldn't hurt to replace those screws with Allen bolts and get a flat washer and spring washer for each screw to resist vibrational loosening. Last edited by Xeen; 02-24-2018 at 03:11 PM. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Leak is definitely the gasket around the pump. Still not sure how 12 gallons in a 19 gallon tank can create this problem...
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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
Had the same issue when installing my tank also and it only had 5 gallons in it...
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That's really odd isn't it? Kinda counter intuitive if you ask me. I can see this happening if the tank is completely full and the fluid is up against the gasket. Wonder if it would be worth calling Boyd's to see what they have to say.
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I had a chat with them and didn't get any solid answers beyond barometric pressures and some other stuff that was above my head... LOL
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Humm, temperature change overnight creating pressure and the vapor created from filling? Bummer but at least it’s a short bed!
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Is the tank vented properly? Just a thought.
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Must be something in the Midwestern air Victor, because I'm chasing a mind bender problem on my '72...Good luck!!! Btw...when did you paint your box lime green? Lol...did a real double take in the pic where the box was coming off...
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Vic,
Would you like to try a different type of gasket material? I have a type here at work called “Gylon” it’s a blend of Garlock and nylon, has some crush to it, I also have a product called “Gore” sealing tape: it has a self adhesive backing and you wouldn’t have to fully remove the sending unit/pump to install it. Here’s a picture of the material.... Let me know, I have other kinds as well. Ben
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![]() Well, not in the traditional sense. BW sells a rollover vent, but I didn't want one. Prefer the sealed system with the valve in the gas cap. It has a fill neck that came out of a Blazer which has a vent tube for filling purposes, but that's it. When I pulled the lines going to the EFI, there was no fuel in the lines or fittings. So if there was any pressurization, it wan't enough to force the fuel thru the pump and up into the line. Leak was just around the EFI cover gasket. Quote:
![]() ![]() Something like that might help if re-torquing the fasteners doesn't do the trick. I'd really rather not have to pull the pump and put on a new gasket. BW sells them but I think they're rubber. I did what Brian had suggested and replaced the Phillips screws with socket cap screws so I could actually torque the fasteners. I started at 25 in-lbs, but waiting to hear from the company to see what (if anything) they recommend.
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We made a thicker gasket and tightened more... fixed my problem...
Let me see if I can find that phone number... it has been about a year and half
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Did that gore tape fix the leak? Sure hope it did. Ben ![]()
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After all that, I tested the pump and lines. That was a bit of a learning curve. The pump would come on for a second or two and quit. According to the all knowing Google, that's normal. It primes the injectors and then waits for the crank signal before re-energizing the fuel pump relay. So to test the system, I had to disconnect the weather pack connector at the pump and jumper 12VDC to it. But during my research, I also read that low fuel level can cause the pump relay to deactivate. I ended up calling Radley Chevrolet out in VA (who sold me the LS and trans) and talked to a guy named Mike. He said the fuel level signal was not used in the GMPP computer and harness. But the best bit of info he gave me was the phone number for the GMPP help center. WooHoo!! If I have any issues when I fire this puppy up in a day or two, hopefully I'll have someone to steer me in the right direction. The fuel lines are leak free, the pressure reads 60 psi and holds 50 psi back pressure when you shut off the pump. No injector leaks either. I believe I'm about ready to make some noise. I got the bed back down on the frame and started all the bolts. Need to sort out the vent and get it back down on all fours. Painted the intake tube and installed it and the MAF sensor today also. Getting closer...
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Awesome!!! I’m super excited for you to get it fired up. I had a issue with my fuel tank leaking from my gas lines on the red truck , I switched to a “vented” gas cap and the issue never appeared again. I apparently had bought the wrong year gas cap. Some tanks have the vent lines and some have the cap that is vented.
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To answer your question on the fuel level sender the ecm doesn't look at that for fuel pump relay control. With key on it primes system and then shuts off until it is cranked over. Looks like your ready to fire that baby up !
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Here I go away for a few days and all this happens! Great progress! God luck on the fire-up!
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Crusty fired up for the first time today. Everything went pretty well all things considered. I have some issues to address but that's to be expected. The temp probe that triggers the electric cooling fans is bad, but Derale is sending out a new one. Neither the tachometer nor the speedometer work, will have to get some tips from Classic Instruments tomorrow. And for some reason the check engine light on the dash is flickering when the engine is running. The MIL light in the relay box doesn't seem to doing that, but it's hard to tell because it's a lot smaller light. HF has a sale on a couple of their Zurich scan tools. May be time to invest in one.
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What a GREAT feeling for you!... and all of us who have been watching and waiting for this! Congratulations sir!!!
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It's Alive!
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WOOOOO HOOOOO! Go Vic Go! Congratulations!
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Awesome Job Vic!!
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