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Old 09-24-2014, 01:03 AM   #1
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Re: 1969 Short Wide

Looking forward to this update because I've got this in front of me too. I know you'll show us the right way and some trick way to do it! What set did you have running in the video?
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:57 AM   #2
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Looking forward to this update because I've got this in front of me too. I know you'll show us the right way and some trick way to do it! What set did you have running in the video?
I don't know about any tricks or the right way . I have really struggled with this rear end project. It's not as straight forward as I had hoped. I have had the pinion and gear carrier in and out at least 10 times trying to get the pattern right. There seems to be some black magic to installing them. This is exactly why it costs so much to have a new set installed.

As for the video, I was running the stock 2:73 gears. I know I like the way the 3:73 gears pull much better, I just couldn't deal with the howling noise.
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:49 AM   #3
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:30 AM   #4
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Mike your pinion depth is too shallow. You need to get it moved deeper into the mesh.

I have done hundreds of rear ends and I can tell you that when I first started doing them it was a lot of trial and error. The biggest thing is to not get frustrated and just take your time.

Luckily I was young and in a dealer when I was learning and was shown some of the tricks to make pinion shim corrections quickly.

Another big thing when checking your patter is to make sure you have some drag on the unit. This will ensure you get a good read every time.

Let me know if you have any questions, I am sure I can help you out. I am swapping in a new 3:42 and posi currently in a 12 bolt this weekend.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:40 AM   #5
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Mike your pinion depth is too shallow. You need to get it moved deeper into the mesh.

I have done hundreds of rear ends and I can tell you that when I first started doing them it was a lot of trial and error. The biggest thing is to not get frustrated and just take your time.

Luckily I was young and in a dealer when I was learning and was shown some of the tricks to make pinion shim corrections quickly.

Another big thing when checking your patter is to make sure you have some drag on the unit. This will ensure you get a good read every time.

Let me know if you have any questions, I am sure I can help you out. I am swapping in a new 3:42 and posi currently in a 12 bolt this weekend.
Thanks Boostedc10. The pics are from when I first started adjusting the gears. I have since moved the pinion deeper but I am still having trouble getting a nice pattern. It seems that the edge is very sharp, almost as though the pinion contact is out of time? Anyway, I'd love to get your contact info. I have been fighting with this thing for what seems like 40+ hours. I have gotten so frustrated a few times I just called it a day early.
If you don't mind me pestering you about the setup send me a pm.
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You have an awesome project going yourself. BTW I think 3:42 would be better choice for my setup but I had the 3:73s already so I figured I'd give them a try.
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Old 09-28-2014, 04:45 PM   #6
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Sorry to hear about the rear end problems. But you will get it soon. It makes the signature line even more real "Built not bought". Another story to add to the truck.

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Old 09-30-2014, 07:48 AM   #7
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Sorry to hear about the rear end problems. But you will get it soon. It makes the signature line even more real "Built not bought". Another story to add to the truck.

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It's all good Dwight. I knew it was a possibility back when I installed the rear end in 2010. It had a lot of slack, I just didn't know it was that bad .
I have it back together and on the road again. I am now confident I can set up my new posi when I get to that point.

I wanted to say thanks to Mark (Crash_OK) for helping me pull an extra rear end I had in a 68 chassis my stash. It was in a tight spot and I couldn't have gotten it out without your help.

I also had a bunch of help setting up the gears from member boostedc10 (Thanks Brandon!).
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It's all good Dwight. I knew it was a possibility back when I installed the rear end in 2010. It had a lot of slack, I just didn't know it was that bad .
I have it back together and on the road again. I am now confident I can set up my new posi when I get to that point.

I wanted to say thanks to Mark (Crash_OK) for helping me pull an extra rear end I had in a 68 chassis my stash. It was in a tight spot and I couldn't have gotten it out without your help.

I also had a bunch of help setting up the gears from member boostedc10 (Thanks Brandon!).
Glad you get it all setup and working correctly.... I am also glad we have a differential specialist in the group now..

Now get the front aligned and drive it...!!
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Glad you get it all setup and working correctly.... I am also glad we have a differential specialist in the group now..

Now get the front aligned and drive it...!!
I'm glad to have it back on the road too. I am taking it to alignment shop this week. I will definitely be driving it some too. Count on it.
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It's all good Dwight. I knew it was a possibility back when I installed the rear end in 2010. It had a lot of slack, I just didn't know it was that bad .
I have it back together and on the road again. I am now confident I can set up my new posi when I get to that point.

I wanted to say thanks to Mark (Crash_OK) for helping me pull an extra rear end I had in a 68 chassis my stash. It was in a tight spot and I couldn't have gotten it out without your help.

I also had a bunch of help setting up the gears from member boostedc10 (Thanks Brandon!).
Glad I could help you get it back on the road. If you need anything else you got my number.
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:33 PM   #11
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Glad I could help you get it back on the road. If you need anything else you got my number.
Don't worry I will hit you up. Thanks again
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:16 AM   #12
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Way to go on the R&P setup Mike!
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:06 AM   #14
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Way to go on the R&P setup Mike!
Thanks. Just chalk up more of my phrase "still learning" to the build.
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Glad you got 'er back on the road. I's eskeered o' them geer thangies.
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Good to see you rollin' again Mike...
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Glad to see you got the gears figured out Mike, now you can get back on the road and enjoy her.
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:30 AM   #18
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Thanks Chip. You have such a way with words. remember that bumper/window decal back in the 90s? "No Fear"
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One of my favorite trucks on the board.
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Thanks Keith that means a lot coming from you.
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Nothing better than a "truly" owner built truck.......BOOM!
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Thanks Mark and Rob.
It's pretty cool when someone asks if you built it and you say yep every nut and bolt.
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