The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1969 - 1972 Blazers and Jimmys Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-15-2015, 06:02 PM   #1
AlBsure
Registered User
 
AlBsure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pismo Beach CA
Posts: 104
my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I know that the front axle is wider but my truck seems to crab walk. And I makes the driver side tire spear to stick out more then it should. Any opinions??
Attached Images
  
AlBsure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 07:07 PM   #2
Senorx
Registered User
 
Senorx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: South Texas
Posts: 567
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I always thought this meant the frame was bent. Subscribed for an explanation from the PROS.
Senorx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 07:17 PM   #3
AlBsure
Registered User
 
AlBsure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pismo Beach CA
Posts: 104
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

O man I hope not.
AlBsure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 07:23 PM   #4
CrewCab59
Registered User
 
CrewCab59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Knoxville,TN
Posts: 1,185
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Did you install the lift kit ? Have you checked the rear springs length from the front hanger to center pin. Have you checked the center pins , spring perch ?

You can also check the wheel base from side to side.
__________________
1972 Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 burb
1971 GMC SWB CST 4x4
1972 GMC k20 4x4 (X- brush truck )
1971 Chevy CST Blazer 4x4
1971 Chevy C/10
1970 Cab Chassis C30 157"
1971 Cab Chassis Custom 30 Deluxe 157" 292/4spd ( Napco Replica )
1988 Chevy V30 4x4 wrecker challenger 4812
CrewCab59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 08:55 PM   #5
GMC-YA68
Senior Member
 
GMC-YA68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lee's Summit, MO (KC)
Posts: 742
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I'd start at measuring the wheel base from side to side like said above. What is the story behind the lift kit? brand new? already on the truck?
__________________
-Keegan-

'72 Jimmy 4x4 - 5.3/4L65E/NP205 swap
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663780
GMC-YA68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 09:42 PM   #6
Keith Seymore
Registered User
 
Keith Seymore's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Motor City
Posts: 9,214
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Rear axle thrust angle can cause dog tracking. Some alignment shops can check for that.

Make sure the rear axle is perpendicular to the centerline of the vehicle.
__________________
Chevrolet Flint Assembly
1979-1986
GM Full Size Truck Engineering
1986 - 2019
Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926
My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524
Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/
Keith Seymore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 09:54 PM   #7
bigeasycigars
Registered User
 
bigeasycigars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 226
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I would check to make sure that the pin on the leaf spring that would sit in a hole on the 2" block has not sheared off.

Also there should be some type of pin on the 2" block that will fit in the hole on the axle pad.

If those pins are broken or not even there, it possible that when the axle is under enough torque, that it could have shifted to cause that sidetracking problem.

Hope this makes sense.
__________________
'71 K/5 CST Work in progress...In Sicily, women are more dangerous than shotguns.
bigeasycigars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 10:37 PM   #8
AlBsure
Registered User
 
AlBsure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pismo Beach CA
Posts: 104
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

First of all thanks for the reply... I didn't think of doing any of the things mentioned. I did install the lift myself. The fronts are my 8" lift that I had de'arched. And the rear came with the truck when I bought it 4 years ago. I know what holes you speak of on the axle pirch I will look at that in the am. Also will take measurements from side to side using my axles as center points. Thanks again.
AlBsure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 09:21 PM   #9
blaze it up
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: gold hill,oregon
Posts: 1
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

That happened to me ounce before my spring perches were welded in. The wrong spot
blaze it up is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 09:27 PM   #10
AlBsure
Registered User
 
AlBsure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pismo Beach CA
Posts: 104
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

It seems like thats what's going on here. I feel like my front axle is kicked over to the driver side a bit.
AlBsure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 09:42 PM   #11
turp mcspray
Registered User
 
turp mcspray's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Rapid City South Dakota
Posts: 2,359
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Measure your rear, from frame to axle. A sagging rear leaf spring a common cause of dogtracking.
__________________
Turp Mcspray
New life for an old 2wd, farm blazer
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=505987
My Blazer build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342299
turp mcspray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 09:46 PM   #12
flashed
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: canton ga
Posts: 12,727
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I have seen many trucks like that and always wondered what caused it .Im in to see the fix .
flashed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 10:01 PM   #13
AlBsure
Registered User
 
AlBsure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pismo Beach CA
Posts: 104
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Ok I will keep you all posted.. thanks I can use the help
AlBsure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 11:51 AM   #14
vancelot69
Registered User
 
vancelot69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Lakewood, Co.
Posts: 219
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Subscribing to this thread also. My wife says mine is side tracking too, and I always thought it was due to a bent frame as well.
__________________
My toys:
1971 GMC Jimmy
2008 Hummer H3 Adventure
2003 HD Road King
vancelot69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:43 PM   #15
DANTES JIMMY
Registered User
 
DANTES JIMMY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: PENDLETON,INDIANA
Posts: 271
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

just fyi the front axle is wider than the rear on almost all gm products so that both tires arent in the same mud rut bigger tire amplify this
DANTES JIMMY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 03:17 PM   #16
ptc
Registered User
 
ptc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Morada, CA --- (Near Lodi)
Posts: 1,443
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

This is a serious alignment issue.... inspect the trailing arms to the rear and make sure they are not bent. inspect all suspension parts front and rear for any breaks or bends or deformity.

Then put it on an alignment rack or a frame machine (if possible) and take your measurements as stated above to see if everything is aligned with the frame and front and rear axles.

good luck to you.
ptc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 09:27 PM   #17
67Steven
Registered User
 
67Steven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oregon City
Posts: 228
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

When looking at the side of the truck, do both side views of the tires look the same? (rear tires look the same, front tires look the same) Are they both centered, is one farther back or farther forward than the other side?

I would throw a tape between (inside-inside) the axles, I bet you measure longer on the passenger side. I would do as others have said, make sure the spring perch (or block if you have it) has the center bolt in the hole, and not next to it or sheared off.

If it is the same, start measuring from known points on the frame to the rear axle, check both sides at the exact same points. This may help you track down where the issue lies.

See if your axle is centered under the body. I use a 4' level on the outside of the tire and measure to the same point of the body.

If nothing else, you might check to make sure the springs themselves measure the same from the eye bolt to center pin, I had a pair that had the same stock number but were 1/4" different (main leaf only...)

Good luck!
__________________
1972 Blazer build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=615744
67Steven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 09:44 PM   #18
AlBsure
Registered User
 
AlBsure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pismo Beach CA
Posts: 104
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

@67Steven the front driver side sticks out further. . I'll get in the garage this weekend this post has a bunch of good advise and I want to take advantage of it. I know the front axles are 1.5 longer on both sides but the driver side is a bit wider
AlBsure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 10:38 AM   #19
RLONG
Registered User
 
RLONG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BROOKELAND,TX
Posts: 228
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I had to do a lot measuring on mine and found out that my spring pad on the back axel were twisted and made the truck dangerous to drive. Measuring is a good place to start.
RLONG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 11:01 AM   #20
1tuff71
Registered User
 
1tuff71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 464
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

My $.02 would be a bent frame. Not too big a deal for a good body shop to fix right.
__________________
Bought this thing bone stock with intentions to just add a lift and tires and the next thing I knew it was on my garage floor in a million pieces. Sometimes the best laid plans........
1tuff71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 01:29 PM   #21
Mike C
Registered User
 
Mike C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Posts: 7,724
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

I would check and make sure one of your springs is not installed backwards. The leaf springs are not always drilled in the middle. I would think a frame being bent bad enough to dog leg the truck like that would have a BUNCH of other stuff whacked as well.

This should be pretty easy to bird dog with a tape measure. One of the reasons the front is wider than the rear is to be able to keep the tires out of the springs for a reasonable turn height and steering radius while keeping the springs as far apart as possible.

Having a different mud track is a secondary effect not the primary.
__________________
44 Willys MB
52 M38A1
64 Corvette Coupe
68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700
69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110
69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop
72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's
02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax
Mike C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 01:50 PM   #22
GMC-YA68
Senior Member
 
GMC-YA68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lee's Summit, MO (KC)
Posts: 742
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Just tell people you have 4 wheel steering and call it good...ha!
__________________
-Keegan-

'72 Jimmy 4x4 - 5.3/4L65E/NP205 swap
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663780
GMC-YA68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 09:31 PM   #23
67Steven
Registered User
 
67Steven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oregon City
Posts: 228
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlBsure View Post
@67Steven the front driver side sticks out further. . I'll get in the garage this weekend this post has a bunch of good advise and I want to take advantage of it. I know the front axles are 1.5 longer on both sides but the driver side is a bit wider
Actually, I meant measure between the front axle tube and the rear axle tube, front to back, on both the left and right side of the truck. Check wheel base and see if it is off there.

Good Luck this weekend!
__________________
1972 Blazer build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=615744
67Steven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2016, 01:42 PM   #24
superlifted
Registered User
 
superlifted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: farmington nm
Posts: 178
Re: my k5 is "crab walking" does anybody else have this problem?

Im in the same boat. My k5 has the same problems. I have a 6 inch spting lift 14 bolt rear end 3/4 ton front end out of a 77 sub. I thought of the zero rate shims but I want to fix the true problem before just putting those on.
__________________
71 Chevy blazer. (Modified)
superlifted is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com