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Luvlegs · 10-13-2007, 12:25 PM

Just put on the brackets - first pic is how they are straight across - the two inner ones are closer to the truck

Luvlegs · 10-13-2007, 12:26 PM

The inner ones will not flip over as the bent out part clears the bed bolt
and the holes do not line up to any other set of holes.

Luvlegs · 10-13-2007, 12:29 PM

Lastly, you can see how the ends that should be "verticle" are angled the wrong way so they will not be plumb with a perfectly verticle bumper (which is the way my new one is)

I cannot flip the inners over and switch sides as the bent up piece (to clear the bed bolt in the previous pic) will hit the bottom of the frame rail before the bolt holes can line up.

Any suggestions? Thanks all.

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 04:00 PM

Ttt

Andy4639 · 10-14-2007, 04:29 PM

You can't lay the brackets against the bottom lip of the frame and redrill the holes in the frame to line up? That's what I would suggest doing.

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 04:38 PM

I was thinking that all the holes are there, so there has to be a way they are supposed to work - thought about drilling but that's the last resort (short of welding) - Does everyone that puts on a sports bumper have to drill their frames??? And still - look at the angle of the inner brackets - they angle the wrong way... somethings not right, but what?

powell72 · 10-14-2007, 04:51 PM

Is it possible you have the outer brackets on wrong? Maybe turned around? How much movement is there on the inners when the bolts are loose?

**uncle** · 10-14-2007, 05:24 PM

This may or may not help. Do the outer brackets have a small hole on the top side for the pan to bolt to?

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 07:18 PM

I believe I have them on exactly as they are in Uncles pics..... but, I'm going out to look right now and make sure..... Thanks so far guys - back in a minute.....

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 07:30 PM

ok - rivet holes are up - is it possible the outter bracket bolts through the funky shaped hole made by the inner bracket and the frame (up to the right a bit in the 2nd pic)?
Then, it still doesn't solve the incorrect angle of the brackets (pitched down) - sorry gang but I'm just not getting this for some reason....

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 07:33 PM

one more pic

67_C-30 · 10-14-2007, 07:49 PM

Its dark outside, and I was just (literally) stabbing in the dark, but this is placement on my truck. The Reciever hitch kinda gets in the way. I'll get more tomorrow if you still ned them. Mine do seem like they pitch downhill though. Have you tried test fitting bumper up there?

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 08:28 PM

I haven't tried to fit it yet - the inners are about 3" closer to the truck than the outters so it seems like a mute point at the moment. Thanks for taking those - between your and uncles, I feel I'm on the right track but..... I wonder if I received a set of front brackets instead of rear outters? - they do look like the rear outters....... then again, my outters have the rivet holes in them....

67_C-30 · 10-14-2007, 08:36 PM

I thing I noticed different in your pocs vs mine is that my inner bumper bracket has 2 bolts near the end and you have only 1. Do you not both in, or is it possible not in the right place?

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 08:46 PM

I see what you have there... I do have another hole in the bracket but there are no two holes that would line up for me to put in two bolts... If you look at the very last pic I posted, you can see there are no other holes that would line up - and two pic before that, you can see the holes in the inner bracket are not near any other holes. I appreciate your time with this...

67_C-30 · 10-14-2007, 08:48 PM

I went out and got some more, and I believe they are the wrong bracket. Your outers look a little different than mine. My may be different because of the auxiliary springs, but I'm not sure.

Luvlegs · 10-14-2007, 08:53 PM

Those first two pics of yours look like they've been cut down - almost like (God forbid) if you hit something, that bracket will just bend over - the last one looks like the two of mine though. Gotta call it quits for the night, bedtime early to rise and all that other stuff - work is seriously cutting into my personal and social life.... thanks for your time man and don't go back out tonight - I'll start this up again in the morning..

powell72 · 10-14-2007, 10:20 PM

Hold the bumper up and see if the holes in the bumper line up with the brackets, I think you have the brackets switched, left to right. The end you have bolted to the frame is bolted to the bumper on my truck.

67_C-30 · 10-14-2007, 10:38 PM

I believe you might be right Chris. The hole that bolts to the topside of the bumper looks too close to the truck in the pic below.

Luvlegs · 10-15-2007, 07:06 AM

NOW I SEE IT! Geesch - must've had a brain bubble - I'm pretty sure I flipped 'em end for end but that hole is indeed in the wrong spot. I did measure the distance from each hole and they do line up with my new bumper. I'll give it a shot tonight and see what happens - THANKS GUYS!

ChevLoRay · 10-15-2007, 10:02 AM

If that doesn't do it, try bolting the brackets to the bumper, then mount the bumper to the frame.

67ChevyRedneck · 10-15-2007, 10:10 AM

These are the correct holes from the outside of the frame.

The angles may look goofy, but put the bumper on, that's how they're supposed to be.

You are correct, the inner ones are notched to clear the bed bolts. Your set up looks correct to me, except you have the wrong part of the outer bracket bolted to the frame. That end gets bolted to the bumper.

Which means I think you'll need to reverse them, and then switch sides. The downward angle needs to match the angle of the inner bracket, that should still keep the bolt hole at the top for the rock guard.

Luvlegs · 10-15-2007, 12:20 PM

yep - I think that is it - I swear I tried flipping/switching the outters... but I will again for sure.... that one is definately on incorrectly as pointed out, the rivet hole is under the bed.

67_C-30 · 10-15-2007, 10:48 PM

So did you get it straightened out?

Luvlegs · 10-16-2007, 09:30 AM

Didn't get out to the truck until after 10 last night and that was enough for me - no lights so I had to do it by flashlight- YOU GUYS GOT IT, I turned them over and flipped end for end and sure enough, the best I could tell in the dark, that should do it! THANK YOU guys!

Should have pics in another day or two (have to get bolts for the bumper yet)

10-13-2007, 12:25 PM	#1
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Just put on the brackets - first pic is how they are straight across - the two inner ones are closer to the truck Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-13-2007, 12:26 PM	#2
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? The inner ones will not flip over as the bent out part clears the bed bolt and the holes do not line up to any other set of holes. Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew! Last edited by Luvlegs; 10-13-2007 at 12:31 PM.

10-13-2007, 12:29 PM	#3
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Lastly, you can see how the ends that should be "verticle" are angled the wrong way so they will not be plumb with a perfectly verticle bumper (which is the way my new one is) I cannot flip the inners over and switch sides as the bent up piece (to clear the bed bolt in the previous pic) will hit the bottom of the frame rail before the bolt holes can line up. Any suggestions? Thanks all. Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew! Last edited by Luvlegs; 10-13-2007 at 12:32 PM.

10-14-2007, 04:00 PM	#4
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Ttt __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-14-2007, 04:29 PM	#5
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? You can't lay the brackets against the bottom lip of the frame and redrill the holes in the frame to line up? That's what I would suggest doing. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

10-14-2007, 04:38 PM	#6
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I was thinking that all the holes are there, so there has to be a way they are supposed to work - thought about drilling but that's the last resort (short of welding) - Does everyone that puts on a sports bumper have to drill their frames??? And still - look at the angle of the inner brackets - they angle the wrong way... somethings not right, but what? __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-14-2007, 04:51 PM	#7
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Is it possible you have the outer brackets on wrong? Maybe turned around? How much movement is there on the inners when the bolts are loose? __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html Last edited by powell72; 10-14-2007 at 04:58 PM.

10-14-2007, 05:24 PM	#8
uncle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conyers,Ga. Posts: 7,286	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? This may or may not help. Do the outer brackets have a small hole on the top side for the pan to bolt to? Attached Images

10-14-2007, 07:18 PM	#9
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I believe I have them on exactly as they are in Uncles pics..... but, I'm going out to look right now and make sure..... Thanks so far guys - back in a minute..... __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-14-2007, 07:30 PM	#10
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? ok - rivet holes are up - is it possible the outter bracket bolts through the funky shaped hole made by the inner bracket and the frame (up to the right a bit in the 2nd pic)? Then, it still doesn't solve the incorrect angle of the brackets (pitched down) - sorry gang but I'm just not getting this for some reason.... Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew! Last edited by Luvlegs; 10-14-2007 at 08:31 PM.

10-14-2007, 07:33 PM	#11
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? one more pic Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-14-2007, 07:49 PM	#12
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Its dark outside, and I was just (literally) stabbing in the dark, but this is placement on my truck. The Reciever hitch kinda gets in the way. I'll get more tomorrow if you still ned them. Mine do seem like they pitch downhill though. Have you tried test fitting bumper up there? Attached Images __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club!

10-14-2007, 08:28 PM	#13
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I haven't tried to fit it yet - the inners are about 3" closer to the truck than the outters so it seems like a mute point at the moment. Thanks for taking those - between your and uncles, I feel I'm on the right track but..... I wonder if I received a set of front brackets instead of rear outters? - they do look like the rear outters....... then again, my outters have the rivet holes in them.... __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-14-2007, 08:36 PM	#14
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I thing I noticed different in your pocs vs mine is that my inner bumper bracket has 2 bolts near the end and you have only 1. Do you not both in, or is it possible not in the right place? Attached Images __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club!

10-14-2007, 08:46 PM	#15
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I see what you have there... I do have another hole in the bracket but there are no two holes that would line up for me to put in two bolts... If you look at the very last pic I posted, you can see there are no other holes that would line up - and two pic before that, you can see the holes in the inner bracket are not near any other holes. I appreciate your time with this... __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew! Last edited by Luvlegs; 10-14-2007 at 08:46 PM.



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10-14-2007, 08:48 PM	#16
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I went out and got some more, and I believe they are the wrong bracket. Your outers look a little different than mine. My may be different because of the auxiliary springs, but I'm not sure. Attached Images __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club! Last edited by 67_C-30; 10-14-2007 at 08:48 PM.

10-14-2007, 08:53 PM	#17
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Those first two pics of yours look like they've been cut down - almost like (God forbid) if you hit something, that bracket will just bend over - the last one looks like the two of mine though. Gotta call it quits for the night, bedtime early to rise and all that other stuff - work is seriously cutting into my personal and social life.... thanks for your time man and don't go back out tonight - I'll start this up again in the morning.. __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-14-2007, 10:20 PM	#18
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Hold the bumper up and see if the holes in the bumper line up with the brackets, I think you have the brackets switched, left to right. The end you have bolted to the frame is bolted to the bumper on my truck. __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html

10-14-2007, 10:38 PM	#19
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? I believe you might be right Chris. The hole that bolts to the topside of the bumper looks too close to the truck in the pic below. Attached Images __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club!

10-15-2007, 07:06 AM	#20
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? NOW I SEE IT! Geesch - must've had a brain bubble - I'm pretty sure I flipped 'em end for end but that hole is indeed in the wrong spot. I did measure the distance from each hole and they do line up with my new bumper. I'll give it a shot tonight and see what happens - THANKS GUYS! __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-15-2007, 10:02 AM	#21
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? If that doesn't do it, try bolting the brackets to the bumper, then mount the bumper to the frame. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

10-15-2007, 10:10 AM	#22
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? These are the correct holes from the outside of the frame. The angles may look goofy, but put the bumper on, that's how they're supposed to be. You are correct, the inner ones are notched to clear the bed bolts. Your set up looks correct to me, except you have the wrong part of the outer bracket bolted to the frame. That end gets bolted to the bumper. Which means I think you'll need to reverse them, and then switch sides. The downward angle needs to match the angle of the inner bracket, that should still keep the bolt hole at the top for the rock guard. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 10-15-2007 at 10:19 AM.

10-15-2007, 12:20 PM	#23
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? yep - I think that is it - I swear I tried flipping/switching the outters... but I will again for sure.... that one is definately on incorrectly as pointed out, the rivet hole is under the bed. __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

10-15-2007, 10:48 PM	#24
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10-16-2007, 09:30 AM	#25
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: sport bump brackets wrong? UGH! Any help? Didn't get out to the truck until after 10 last night and that was enough for me - no lights so I had to do it by flashlight- YOU GUYS GOT IT, I turned them over and flipped end for end and sure enough, the best I could tell in the dark, that should do it! THANK YOU guys! Should have pics in another day or two (have to get bolts for the bumper yet) __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew! Last edited by Luvlegs; 10-16-2007 at 09:31 AM.

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