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SCOTI · 12-22-2021, 12:38 PM

Wow.... You know it's serious engine set-back when the OE position of the alternator crowds the brake booster/master cylinder...

Joyridin · 12-22-2021, 01:21 PM

If you look at where the front pulley is sitting, it isn't sitting 6" away from the rack and pinion. It looks to be about 2" away, which is about the distance needed to slide the engine in place. So moving it back 10" is too far off even though he moved the whole crossmember back about an inch or 2.

This would have been a really neat concept if it actually worked, but I couldn't find any way to make it work without chopping 25% of the frame width away or moving the engine back. The one front end kit I looked at had what looked to be 1.5" spacers in place of the out tie rods to correct the bump steer, but on this kit, you probably needed something close to 3".

I had the No-Limit set-up in in less than a day if I add all my time up. That was a relief after messing with the Flat Out Engineering catastrophe.

wickedred · 03-15-2022, 11:49 AM

Knocked the rack mounts off the Crossmember. Have ordered another rack and pinion I think I can get to work.

wickedred · 03-16-2022, 05:21 PM

I am a gluten for punishment I guess. Was so close to just spending $1804 on a Aldan Performance coil over front end. Then I decided to beat my head against a wall with the Flat Out crap.

So I ordered a T-Bird PS rack. Mounting points will work. It keeps the rack center line with the steering knuckles. Gotta order tie rod ends and see how that is gonna play out.

Until more parts arrive this saga continues….

SCOTI · 03-16-2022, 05:53 PM

What spindle/uprights are those?

wickedred · 03-16-2022, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

What spindle/uprights are those?

1986 C4 Vette
Ordered upper ball joints and tie rods. Waiting to order Coil Over's before seeing if I can get the steering sorted.

SCOTI · 03-16-2022, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedred

1986 C4 Vette
Ordered upper ball joints and tie rods. Waiting to order Coil Over's before seeing if I can get the steering sorted.

Looked pretty tall so that was my guess.

wickedred · 03-17-2022, 05:35 AM

Yeah. Just hoping I can make this work.

wickedred · 03-21-2022, 07:52 PM

Rack is mounted. Waiting on the bump steer kit. Then I will see if this deal is gonna work or make to the scrap pile.

Before anyone ask. No it’s not worth the effort.

Joyridin · 03-22-2022, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wickedred

Rack is mounted. Waiting on the bump steer kit. Then I will see if this deal is gonna work or make to the scrap pile.

Before anyone ask. No it’s not worth the effort.

Looking good! Hopefully you can figure the mess out to make it usable. I'm not sure who else makes them, but FatMan suspensions has their own style tie rod ends for that rack with an extended taper stud.

wickedred · 03-22-2022, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Joyridin

Looking good! Hopefully you can figure the mess out to make it usable. I'm not sure who else makes them, but FatMan suspensions has their own style tie rod ends for that rack with an extended taper stud.

I bought a Bump steer kit from Team Z Motorsports. It requires you to drill the spindle. I am determined to make it work.

Joyridin · 06-14-2022, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wickedred

I bought a Bump steer kit from Team Z Motorsports. It requires you to drill the spindle. I am determined to make it work.

Having any luck getting the Flat-Out Wrong Engineering front end to work?

wickedred · 06-18-2022, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyridin

Having any luck getting the Flat-Out Wrong Engineering front end to work?

I have been sitting here looking at it for a few months. I can make it work with the current Rack and Pinion. Just leaning more towards the Sweet MFG servo racks. I seem to Hate Money and can't make up my mind what direction I am going with the C10 in general.

wickedred · 06-27-2022, 06:46 AM

Buddy of mine that I do some turbo fab work for gave me a L83 5.3L. needs some work and I am gonna go through it anyway. So the C10 engine is taken care of.

12-22-2021, 12:38 PM	#1
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,917	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? Wow.... You know it's serious engine set-back when the OE position of the alternator crowds the brake booster/master cylinder... __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-22-2021, 01:21 PM	#2
Joyridin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 485	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? If you look at where the front pulley is sitting, it isn't sitting 6" away from the rack and pinion. It looks to be about 2" away, which is about the distance needed to slide the engine in place. So moving it back 10" is too far off even though he moved the whole crossmember back about an inch or 2. This would have been a really neat concept if it actually worked, but I couldn't find any way to make it work without chopping 25% of the frame width away or moving the engine back. The one front end kit I looked at had what looked to be 1.5" spacers in place of the out tie rods to correct the bump steer, but on this kit, you probably needed something close to 3". I had the No-Limit set-up in in less than a day if I add all my time up. That was a relief after messing with the Flat Out Engineering catastrophe.

03-15-2022, 11:49 AM	#3
wickedred Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bowling Green kY Posts: 54	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? Knocked the rack mounts off the Crossmember. Have ordered another rack and pinion I think I can get to work. Attached Images __________________ 1984 K5 Blazer 4x4. Because my daily driver needs to be a project too... 1971 C10. Auto Cross/Pro Touring Build. Project : I am gonna go broke with this one. 1970 Chevy LWB 4x4. 355, 4spd, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, 35x12.50 tires... STOLEN I will put a Turbo on anything with an engine if the $$$ is right. *Once upon a time....*

03-16-2022, 05:21 PM	#4
wickedred Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bowling Green kY Posts: 54	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? I am a gluten for punishment I guess. Was so close to just spending $1804 on a Aldan Performance coil over front end. Then I decided to beat my head against a wall with the Flat Out crap. So I ordered a T-Bird PS rack. Mounting points will work. It keeps the rack center line with the steering knuckles. Gotta order tie rod ends and see how that is gonna play out. Until more parts arrive this saga continues…. Attached Images __________________ 1984 K5 Blazer 4x4. Because my daily driver needs to be a project too... 1971 C10. Auto Cross/Pro Touring Build. Project : I am gonna go broke with this one. 1970 Chevy LWB 4x4. 355, 4spd, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, 35x12.50 tires... STOLEN I will put a Turbo on anything with an engine if the $$$ is right. *Once upon a time....*

03-16-2022, 05:53 PM	#5
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,917	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? What spindle/uprights are those? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

03-17-2022, 05:35 AM	#8
wickedred Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bowling Green kY Posts: 54	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? Yeah. Just hoping I can make this work. __________________ 1984 K5 Blazer 4x4. Because my daily driver needs to be a project too... 1971 C10. Auto Cross/Pro Touring Build. Project : I am gonna go broke with this one. 1970 Chevy LWB 4x4. 355, 4spd, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, 35x12.50 tires... STOLEN I will put a Turbo on anything with an engine if the $$$ is right. *Once upon a time....*

03-21-2022, 07:52 PM	#9
wickedred Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bowling Green kY Posts: 54	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? Rack is mounted. Waiting on the bump steer kit. Then I will see if this deal is gonna work or make to the scrap pile. Before anyone ask. No it’s not worth the effort. Attached Images __________________ 1984 K5 Blazer 4x4. Because my daily driver needs to be a project too... 1971 C10. Auto Cross/Pro Touring Build. Project : I am gonna go broke with this one. 1970 Chevy LWB 4x4. 355, 4spd, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, 35x12.50 tires... STOLEN I will put a Turbo on anything with an engine if the $$$ is right. *Once upon a time....*

06-27-2022, 06:46 AM	#14
wickedred Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bowling Green kY Posts: 54	Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end? Buddy of mine that I do some turbo fab work for gave me a L83 5.3L. needs some work and I am gonna go through it anyway. So the C10 engine is taken care of. __________________ 1984 K5 Blazer 4x4. Because my daily driver needs to be a project too... 1971 C10. Auto Cross/Pro Touring Build. Project : I am gonna go broke with this one. 1970 Chevy LWB 4x4. 355, 4spd, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, 35x12.50 tires... STOLEN I will put a Turbo on anything with an engine if the $$$ is right. *Once upon a time....* Last edited by wickedred; 06-28-2022 at 06:46 AM.



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