New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

CheyLadd · 10-31-2006, 03:06 PM

Hello All,

I am new to the board after just having purchased my latest in the 67-72 series. I just bought a 72 K10 Cheyenne Super swb and I have a few questions about it. Details: 350 with 4 spd manual. Missing a couple of options unfortunately. Namely the tach and tilt but I will live. It is in good, unrestored condition. Unfortunately the prior owner pulled the original 350 and put in a 350 from an 89 pickup. To make matters worse, I bent an exhaust valve on the trip from Utah to CA and now only 7 cyclinders are working. But, I am still thrilled with the purchase.

Here is question 1. It looks like it has the original rear shocks on it but I'm not sure. They are regular shocks but they have a coil around them. Is this something I should try to retain or should I just dump them and get some good shocks. It will never be 100% original but is there any benefit to these?

Question 2. According to the glove box sticker, the truck was medium red #514. In a reference book I have it is also called crimson red. Is there a good place in the Pomona CA area to get a sample of this paint? The exterior appears more orange than red at this point but all indications are that it has not been painted.

Love the truck, in spite of it running like crap right now. Debating on another engine transplant or having the valve fixed. We'll see.

Previously owned: 71 Sub 4X4 3/4 9 seater medium green and white; 71 sub 4X4 3/4 6 seater bronze and white; 70 truck 3/4 4X4; 72 truck 1/2 cheyenne. Missing my green 71 sub in a big way. Was our family car for 7 years and sold to someone in Huntington Beach a few years back.

Aarons72s · 10-31-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CheyLadd

Hello All,

I am new to the board after just having purchased my latest in the 67-72 series. I just bought a 72 K10 Cheyenne Super swb and I have a few questions about it. Details: 350 with 4 spd manual. Missing a couple of options unfortunately. Namely the tach and tilt but I will live. It is in good, unrestored condition. Unfortunately the prior owner pulled the original 350 and put in a 350 from an 89 pickup. To make matters worse, I bent an exhaust valve on the trip from Utah to CA and now only 7 cyclinders are working. But, I am still thrilled with the purchase.

Here is question 1. It looks like it has the original rear shocks on it but I'm not sure. They are regular shocks but they have a coil around them. Is this something I should try to retain or should I just dump them and get some good shocks. It will never be 100% original but is there any benefit to these?

Question 2. According to the glove box sticker, the truck was medium red #514. In a reference book I have it is also called crimson red. Is there a good place in the Pomona CA area to get a sample of this paint? The exterior appears more orange than red at this point but all indications are that it has not been painted.

Love the truck, in spite of it running like crap right now. Debating on another engine transplant or having the valve fixed. We'll see.

Previously owned: 71 Sub 4X4 3/4 9 seater medium green and white; 71 sub 4X4 3/4 6 seater bronze and white; 70 truck 3/4 4X4; 72 truck 1/2 cheyenne. Missing my green 71 sub in a big way. Was our family car for 7 years and sold to someone in Huntington Beach a few years back.

First off sweet ride

And welcome to the board!

Question one. Coilovers just let you haul more weight. I hauling alot is not in your future than I would proably just get a good set of regular shocks.

paint question- go to this site
http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/scri...gm=aclgate.bbx
they have a page showing the orginal paint colors.
I am pretty sure napa can mix some for you I enterd in the omaha orange and they can mix it.

Hope this helps.
Aaron

krue · 10-31-2006, 04:08 PM

Welcome to the board from South Mississippi!

**Yukon Jack** · 10-31-2006, 04:16 PM

Welcome - great looking truck.

**Joesjunk** · 10-31-2006, 06:14 PM

Great find, lets see some more pics! Option sticker too! Do your shocks actually have a coil around them, or just a regular looking shock with a "spirial" molded into them?

Longhorn Man · 10-31-2006, 07:01 PM

Joe beat me to it.
If it is a normal shock with a sprial in the metal, then they are either original, or way old GM replacements.

CheyLadd · 10-31-2006, 07:40 PM

Thanks for all the welcomes and the info. The shocks look like a somewhat regular shock with a coil around them. There are rubber guides on the outside of the shock and then the coil is around those. I am guessing it is aftermarket because it also has overload springs on it. I think the original owner had a camper on it.

I will get better pictures soon. The one photo is the night I brought it home and it was a little dark. It had tons of oxidation that I buffed out and it now looks somewhat respectable. I am a little confused on the color. After buffing it out, it looks pretty orangish red on the outside. The inside is the 514 red. However, the exterior does not appear to have ever been painted and there are definitely no multiple layers of paint. Would the red have faded to an orange? It faded pretty evenly if it did. Under the Chevrolet plate on the bumper it is still red as well. Highly suspect but the only other option is they did a grind down to the metal and repainted a long time ago. Why go to all that work and paint it orange and leave the inside red. No way to know for sure since the original owner is dead.

It also had a blazer spare tire carrier mounted to the tailgate. Gotta love that. It is now off and some big holes left behind. Overall, amazing shape for the year. Still has the original seat cover with a six inch tear on the driver side. Passenger side is perfect. No holes cut inside anywhere. Stock radio still intact and working. Headliner in great shape. Ordered the one missing hubcap off ebay a few days ago so I will have all 4. Dealer installed a/c unfortunately instead of factory.

*72CSTC5* · 10-31-2006, 08:11 PM

welcome from Texas, look on gmpartsdirect.com and I just saw where they have a gm 350 on sale right now from regular 2154.00 to 1269.00 I believe with a 50.00 core and ship to any local fedex hub with gm warranty and brand new engine not rebuilt and with gm warranty. Hard to beat I would think.

see ten · 10-31-2006, 09:36 PM

Sounds like you have a great start there! That medium red is a booger. Nobody seems to have a paint code for it and in certain light it doesn't look red at all, just orange! I have so many people calling my truck orange I'm thinking about painting it green.

**Canadian694x4** · 11-01-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by see ten

That medium red is a booger. Nobody seems to have a paint code for it and in certain light it doesn't look red at all, just orange!

So true!

Congrats! Looks like a great Shorty 4x4 Ya got yourself!

sameyrasmea72 · 11-01-2006, 12:42 AM

Sweet find! I am very jealous. I would imagine the red faded to orange. Look on the firewall to see if the stencil marks are still there. if they are still there they paint there atleast is original and should be somewhat less faded/oxidized, but will give you a good idea as to if the paint is original.

**Joesjunk** · 11-01-2006, 05:51 PM

My truck is the same 514 paint color. This is the original paint, and it does fade to an orange color.

CPNEJR · 11-01-2006, 06:21 PM

nice truck. Gm really never had a true red. from factory it would've looked like that except brighter.

CheyLadd · 11-05-2006, 01:44 AM

Here are some additional photos. I also pulled the rear shocks and will be putting new ones on the rear. Anyone have a preference on shocks? Rancho's ok? Strange color as I said before. Sometimes it looks red and other times orange. Pictures make it look better than it is. Has a bit of rust on the door bottoms and under the top molding. Not bad for a Utah truck though. The bolts for the rear shocks came right off. There is not a ton of corrosion as I would have expected.

Sorry about the dates on the last photos. My camera reset the date and I didn't notice.

**pound41** · 11-05-2006, 06:54 PM

Those shocks were Monroe Load levelers. Real popular on these trucks Back in the late mid to late 70's which would have been the first go round of replacements. My 71 blazer had them on it. I put them on the 2 -72's as well. Gave a great ride on and off the road. No longer available. Otherwise I would have them

Longhorn Man · 11-05-2006, 09:13 PM

Who's that funny lookin guy in the mirror?

just playin... that's a sharp truck you have there.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-05-2006, 09:25 PM

Monroe still makes them in the sensatrac version, black with coil spring around outside.

10-31-2006, 03:06 PM	#1
CheyLadd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 85	New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Hello All, I am new to the board after just having purchased my latest in the 67-72 series. I just bought a 72 K10 Cheyenne Super swb and I have a few questions about it. Details: 350 with 4 spd manual. Missing a couple of options unfortunately. Namely the tach and tilt but I will live. It is in good, unrestored condition. Unfortunately the prior owner pulled the original 350 and put in a 350 from an 89 pickup. To make matters worse, I bent an exhaust valve on the trip from Utah to CA and now only 7 cyclinders are working. But, I am still thrilled with the purchase. Here is question 1. It looks like it has the original rear shocks on it but I'm not sure. They are regular shocks but they have a coil around them. Is this something I should try to retain or should I just dump them and get some good shocks. It will never be 100% original but is there any benefit to these? Question 2. According to the glove box sticker, the truck was medium red #514. In a reference book I have it is also called crimson red. Is there a good place in the Pomona CA area to get a sample of this paint? The exterior appears more orange than red at this point but all indications are that it has not been painted. Love the truck, in spite of it running like crap right now. Debating on another engine transplant or having the valve fixed. We'll see. Previously owned: 71 Sub 4X4 3/4 9 seater medium green and white; 71 sub 4X4 3/4 6 seater bronze and white; 70 truck 3/4 4X4; 72 truck 1/2 cheyenne. Missing my green 71 sub in a big way. Was our family car for 7 years and sold to someone in Huntington Beach a few years back. Attached Images

10-31-2006, 04:08 PM	#3
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Welcome to the board from South Mississippi! __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

10-31-2006, 04:16 PM	#4
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Welcome - great looking truck. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

10-31-2006, 07:01 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Joe beat me to it. If it is a normal shock with a sprial in the metal, then they are either original, or way old GM replacements.

10-31-2006, 07:40 PM	#7
CheyLadd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 85	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Thanks for all the welcomes and the info. The shocks look like a somewhat regular shock with a coil around them. There are rubber guides on the outside of the shock and then the coil is around those. I am guessing it is aftermarket because it also has overload springs on it. I think the original owner had a camper on it. I will get better pictures soon. The one photo is the night I brought it home and it was a little dark. It had tons of oxidation that I buffed out and it now looks somewhat respectable. I am a little confused on the color. After buffing it out, it looks pretty orangish red on the outside. The inside is the 514 red. However, the exterior does not appear to have ever been painted and there are definitely no multiple layers of paint. Would the red have faded to an orange? It faded pretty evenly if it did. Under the Chevrolet plate on the bumper it is still red as well. Highly suspect but the only other option is they did a grind down to the metal and repainted a long time ago. Why go to all that work and paint it orange and leave the inside red. No way to know for sure since the original owner is dead. It also had a blazer spare tire carrier mounted to the tailgate. Gotta love that. It is now off and some big holes left behind. Overall, amazing shape for the year. Still has the original seat cover with a six inch tear on the driver side. Passenger side is perfect. No holes cut inside anywhere. Stock radio still intact and working. Headliner in great shape. Ordered the one missing hubcap off ebay a few days ago so I will have all 4. Dealer installed a/c unfortunately instead of factory.

10-31-2006, 06:14 PM	#5
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,702	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Great find, lets see some more pics! Option sticker too! Do your shocks actually have a coil around them, or just a regular looking shock with a "spirial" molded into them? __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

10-31-2006, 08:11 PM	#8
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,524	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question welcome from Texas, look on gmpartsdirect.com and I just saw where they have a gm 350 on sale right now from regular 2154.00 to 1269.00 I believe with a 50.00 core and ship to any local fedex hub with gm warranty and brand new engine not rebuilt and with gm warranty. Hard to beat I would think.

10-31-2006, 09:36 PM	#9
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Sounds like you have a great start there! That medium red is a booger. Nobody seems to have a paint code for it and in certain light it doesn't look red at all, just orange! I have so many people calling my truck orange I'm thinking about painting it green.

11-01-2006, 12:42 AM	#11
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Sweet find! I am very jealous. I would imagine the red faded to orange. Look on the firewall to see if the stencil marks are still there. if they are still there they paint there atleast is original and should be somewhat less faded/oxidized, but will give you a good idea as to if the paint is original. __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd

11-01-2006, 05:51 PM	#12
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,702	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question My truck is the same 514 paint color. This is the original paint, and it does fade to an orange color. Attached Images __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

11-01-2006, 06:21 PM	#13
CPNEJR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Franconia,N.H. Posts: 1,029	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question nice truck. Gm really never had a true red. from factory it would've looked like that except brighter. __________________ (Only) Member of the CPNE Fan Club Aint that the truth 67 C-10 350 with 3-speed tranny and 308 gears swb step 82 Z28 Camaro 355 small block over 350 hp and a borg warner super t-10 (blown engine) 72 Chevy K20 Suburban (future project) 70 Chevy K20 now 68 GMC K2500 2003 Chevy 2500hd ccsb 4X4 (daily driver)

11-05-2006, 01:44 AM	#14
CheyLadd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 85	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Here are some additional photos. I also pulled the rear shocks and will be putting new ones on the rear. Anyone have a preference on shocks? Rancho's ok? Strange color as I said before. Sometimes it looks red and other times orange. Pictures make it look better than it is. Has a bit of rust on the door bottoms and under the top molding. Not bad for a Utah truck though. The bolts for the rear shocks came right off. There is not a ton of corrosion as I would have expected. Sorry about the dates on the last photos. My camera reset the date and I didn't notice. Attached Images

11-05-2006, 06:54 PM	#15
pound41 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,268	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Those shocks were Monroe Load levelers. Real popular on these trucks Back in the late mid to late 70's which would have been the first go round of replacements. My 71 blazer had them on it. I put them on the 2 -72's as well. Gave a great ride on and off the road. No longer available. Otherwise I would have them

11-05-2006, 09:13 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Who's that funny lookin guy in the mirror? just playin... that's a sharp truck you have there.

11-05-2006, 09:25 PM	#17
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Re: New 72 K10 CheySuper swb shock question Monroe still makes them in the sensatrac version, black with coil spring around outside. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA



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