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Old 05-22-2014, 04:15 PM   #1
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title question

Iv got another question for you guys im rebuilding my 72 and ran into alot of rust damage in the cab and today i came across a 72 gmc with a perfect cab what i am wondering is since the vin numbers are in the cab do i have to use the gmc vin or can i change the door jam plate and keep the vin of the truck im restoring? Thanks

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Old 05-22-2014, 04:27 PM   #2
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If you use the 72 GMC cab you use the 72 GMC title, swapping vins is frowned upon in a lot of states, or say illegal.
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:27 PM   #3
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Legally, the VIN goes with the cab. It is illegal to remove the VIN plate from the door jam. Whether you choose to follow that is up to you...

I removed my VIN plate when my truck was painted.
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And those daisy rivits are hard to find. I need 4 myself
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:06 PM   #5
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Thats what i was afraid of my truck is a 72 chevy swb and the cab is either a 71 or 72 gmc long bed so if i used that title it wouldnt match my truck right? I could always cut and weld the parts i need but its alot more work and a bit over my experience level
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:28 PM   #6
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Hmm maybe a door jam transplant
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:09 PM   #7
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laws vary greatly from state to state. You can always ask questions at the local registration place.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:53 PM   #8
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Fyi there are slight variations between 71 and 72 cans such as the inside rear view mirror mount and accelerator pedal mount.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:55 PM   #9
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I removed my VIN plate when my truck was painted.
Was the one you put on after paint the same one you removed?
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:18 PM   #10
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Its too bad the easy way isn't the legal way.
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Been there done that, in Texas I had the title to the frame and a sales receipt from a salvage yard for the cab, bed, engine etc. When I took it for inspection at TxDot they used the frame numbers because of the title matching it. And the documentation that when to Austin list the cab numbers on it there. They installed a sticker next to the cab vin plate documenting that it is inspected and legal.

It's no big deal about the cab vin plate being from a longed truck, GMC or whatever the variables are.
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Been there done that, in Texas I had the title to the frame and a sales receipt from a salvage yard for the cab, bed, engine etc. When I took it for inspection at TxDot they used the frame numbers because of the title matching it. And the documentation that when to Austin list the cab numbers on it there. They installed a sticker next to the cab vin plate documenting that it is inspected and legal.

It's no big deal about the cab vin plate being from a longed truck, GMC or whatever the variables are.
California Highway Patrol told me the same thing pretty much. I have a swapped cab with no title. I have a frame and clean title matching. They're just going to re tag my cab using the frame Vin.
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Old 05-23-2014, 04:38 PM   #13
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If you use the 72 GMC cab you use the 72 GMC title, swapping vins is frowned upon in a lot of states, or say illegal.
It's called title washing. Boyd Coddington narrowly escaped a prison sentence for doing it. If you get caught you not only lose the truck but you get free meals and housing courtesy of the state you live in.
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I cant give you legal advice. However asking on this or any other forum isn't the proper way to obtain legal advice. I would check with local authorities. Whatever you do make sure its legal.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:46 PM   #15
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The crappy part about doing it legally is I think a deal fell through on me selling my truck because I did it the legal way through DOT. He questioned what the sticker was about and I told him, and then he went cold on the deal. He wanted to see the title which I didn't have with me, to see what it looked like. BTW it is a clean title not a salvage title.
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The crappy part about doing it legally is I think a deal fell through on me selling my truck because I did it the legal way through DOT. He questioned what the sticker was about and I told him, and then he went cold on the deal. He wanted to see the title which I didn't have with me, to see what it looked like. BTW it is a clean title not a salvage title.
That just means the buyer wasn't well informed. Nobody should be selling a vehicle without the title in hand though, that is a perfect way to make a buyer weary of the sale, which sounds like exactly the case. I've walked away from several sales because sellers had excuses for why the title wasn't available. Best of luck with your decision.
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Re: title question

I asked on here a little while back about the Rosette Rivets to remove/replace the VIN plate on my 67... What I found out was shocking... Even though I wanted to just R&R the vin plate to paint it, It is illegal in all 50 States... Even possessing the rosette rivets is illegal and you can be arrested on criminal charges... so I am painting around the VIN Plate...

From all I can see the information tlcrz1972 gave on changing the cab pretty much is the way it is in all 50 states... ALWAYS check with the state you live in to make sure you don't make a error that can cost you your truck...

Also in buying one of these trucks that have been put together from several trucks make sure it can be titled in your state...

These are just my experience/ opinion and your thoughts may be different...
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I asked on here a little while back about the Rosette Rivets to remove/replace the VIN plate on my 67... What I found out was shocking... Even though I wanted to just R&R the vin plate to paint it, It is illegal in all 50 States... Even possessing the rosette rivets is illegal and you can be arrested on criminal charges... so I am painting around the VIN Plate...

From all I can see the information tlcrz1972 gave on changing the cab pretty much is the way it is in all 50 states... ALWAYS check with the state you live in to make sure you don't make a error that can cost you your truck...

Also in buying one of these trucks that have been put together from several trucks make sure it can be titled in your state...

These are just my experience/ opinion and your thoughts may be different...
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:39 PM   #19
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Well I have the title in my possession it was just at my house in a safe and the day he was looking at it was just not possible to just drop what I was doing to go to town and get it. And he was a little on the questionable side anyway (wishy-washy).

It was no excuse, it was just put away so it didn't get lost or destroyed by any circumstance.



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That just means the buyer wasn't well informed. Nobody should be selling a vehicle without the title in hand though, that is a perfect way to make a buyer weary of the sale, which sounds like exactly the case. I've walked away from several sales because sellers had excuses for why the title wasn't available. Best of luck with your decision.
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I asked on here a little while back about the Rosette Rivets to remove/replace the VIN plate on my 67... What I found out was shocking... Even though I wanted to just R&R the vin plate to paint it, It is illegal in all 50 States... Even possessing the rosette rivets is illegal and you can be arrested on criminal charges... so I am painting around the VIN Plate...
I love my Ford with their reusable / easy to obtain rivets.
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