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1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Well, here I go again.
This time a 1958 Pontiac Wagon caught my eye. My plans are to install a Pontiac 350, a motor that was in my 1973 Firebird when I was a teenager, add a TH350 automatic, some bucket seats with a console, Pontiac Rally 2 wheels, and have a safe, reliable, smooth running wagon. I have already freshened up the motor, new gaskets, seals, timing chain, ...etc and have it ready for install. I also purchased a TH350 and have had it rebuilt and it is ready to go. The BIG issue with this car is rust, and lots of it. The floors are gone, the rockers are gone, and the quarters are gone..........other than that, it seems solid. (ha ha) My plans are to paint this one, and have it looking respectable, not that patina isn't respectable. Possibly a Teal/Blue with the white colored spear down the side? not sure yet, as that is so far away. Anyways, I will post some pics now and add more as the work gets done, I mentioned the motor is done, as you can see, I am going for the retro look. Happy New Year to All
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Nice find, that motor was just waiting for something to go in, this should be a nice one to build. Maybe the 58 Chevy Yeoman can offer up some aftermarket sheet metal parts, if there is any out there.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
3drburb, yes, you are right, this 350 was lying around, so I freshened it up, put the HO heads on it to up the compression, and it should be good to go. (and gave it some paint)
The 1958 Pontiac/Chev floor pans that are available are awful, and only include the footwell section, and the rot on this goes far beyond that. I am going to try to make my own floor pans. Well, I started on the lower A pillars because they need to be done before I can start on the rockers. So I cut out the rot, and made some replacement pieces, the pics are of drivers side, but I did both sides I also added a a piece to the toe board to get it ready for a floor pan Up next will be the Pass. side rockers
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Well, progress continues on the floor
I picked up some sheet metal (19 gauge) and with a cheap bead roller, put a design in the floor that resembled the stock floor. After cutting, bending, and welding, the front floor on the passenger side is in. I have started on the area below the seat, and soon I will be working on the rear section. I am trying to keep the seams above the braces so they wont be seen from below, but along the trans tunnel, I have no choice.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Wow! You are getting after that rust, nice job in making your own floors and braces.
Btw love the Pickup Truck. |
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Thanks 3drburb, but I did not make the braces. (see pics)
A friend of mine found a 58 Chev and he cut the floor out for me. I then used the braces, sections of, and welded them in So far I am enjoying this process and just trying to install 1 piece at a time, get it in place, then move on to the next piece
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Looking good. I do loves me some Pontiaction. Time to grab some popcorn, a Porter and watch some magic happen.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Thanks HO455, I just went through the first 9 pages of your Burb build, nice work.
I like Pontiacs too, here are 2 Pontiac projects, but the 64 has been sold as for the 'magic', I think it is more 'brute force and ignornance', as there are a few REAL Metal Magicians on this website, and I am NOT one of them. I hope you have a big bag of popcorn, cause this is going to take a while, but thanks for the encouragement.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Judging from those two it will be worth the wait.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Hi Guys
Well the floor work continues, I will update later, but have a question about seam sealer, and how much the factory used? The pics below are of the seam between the rear floor pan and the 'arch' going over the rear axle. You can see in the first pic how much was caked in there, and then I scraped it off and you can see in the 2nd pic the screw driver showing the thickness. The 3rd pic is the seam with all the sealer removed Do you that was original? or do you think someone added that? as it is almost 1/2 inch thick? Just curious, and Thanks for your thoughts
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
sorry, for some reason pics 2 and 3 flipped?? ooops?
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
lets try this again, sorry
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
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I have Rally I wheels on my '63. K
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
that's a beauty 63,
I don't see many of those, thanks for the pic,
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Thank you; Dad had two.
He gave this one upon his passing to a family friend. I saw it at a show this past summer, first time I had seen it in 17 years. K
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
More Pontiac stuff, if you like:
https://over-drive-magazine.com/2023...athery-fabric/ https://www.motortrend.com/features/...-still-family/ https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=560524
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
I saw this and thought you might enjoy it. I enjoyed it a lot more once I turned the sound off.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
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My GTO had a pancake sized blob of sealer in the middle of the passenger side floor that appeared to have spilled and never wiped up.
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Probably factory.
At the end of the application the guys would wipe the excess off the wand somewhere obscure on the vehicle rather than cleaning the tip on a rag or on their apron. K
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Thanks HO455, that video gives me inspiration, or depression, depends how I look at it (ha ha) as my wagon does not look much like that one
Keith, thanks for the links, very neat stories about you and your Dad. Thank you both for the seam sealer confirmation,
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
I have been welding in patches on the Passenger side floor.
Put in a piece on the wheel well, then a piece under the seat with the seat plate, and now positioning the rear footwell and time for some trimming. still making progress
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Hi Guys,
Pushed the wagon outside onto the street today to turn it around as I am ready to start on the driver's side (rockers and floor) here are some finished pics of the Passenger side, just needs some seam sealer and paint, and it should be OK. onward and upward
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Wow! Along with the very good friend who offered up those braces you must have a shop full of helpers.
Very nice and fast work! |
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Re: 1958 Pontiac Wagon Build
Wow no kidding! I've seen pro shops do half as much, in twice the time. Impressive work.
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