Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

VA72C10 · 11-16-2011, 06:49 PM

Here's the ebay ad Item number: 260895159753

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260895159753...#ht_500wt_1202

I saw the ad and sent a message letting him know due to the longer shaft it was a van or motor home tilt. I have one that looks identical with the correct wiring and neutral safety switch installed and it came from a van....

Here was his response....

Quote:

Originally Posted by left2soon

I`ve built a bunch of these trucks and most of them have the shorter shaft at the bottom, mostly 70-72. But I have seen the longer shaft on earlier trucks 67-70. I have a van tilt column also and the shaft at the end of the column on the van is 1/2" shorter and the nuteral safty switch is a lot higher on it 19 1/2" on van column and 13" on this column from end of shaft. . plus the plug is different on the van.

- left2soon

is he mistaken.......or have I been told wrong on these columns?

VA72C10 · 11-16-2011, 06:57 PM

I stated it also could be from a motorhome and did note that the wiring was correct... but I guess he missed that part in his response?

hugger6933 · 11-16-2011, 09:30 PM

The motorhome tilt is almost if not the same shaft length as the trucks[as far as shaft length is concerned]. I have two motor home tilts and a van tilt. You can definatly tell the difference in the two just at a glance

**Classic Heartbeat** · 11-16-2011, 09:47 PM

Thats a motorhome tilt. You can tell by how long the center shaft is sticking out the bottom of the column. WES

VA72C10 · 11-16-2011, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugger6933

The motorhome tilt is almost if not the same shaft length as the trucks[as far as shaft length is concerned]. I have two motor home tilts and a van tilt. You can definatly tell the difference in the two just at a glance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Heartbeat

Thats a motorhome tilt. You can tell by how long the center shaft is sticking out the bottom of the column. WES

Okay.....

Glad we cleared that up

All I know is I've never seen or heard of a truck with a longer shaft at the end (which would mean a shorter intermediate shaft.

Anyone?

**Dave** · 11-16-2011, 10:16 PM

Johnathan,
This column looks to be a van column that somone tried to converted to a truck. Van columns always had the longer shaft. Full size motorhomes tilts had the shorter truck shaft but with a dogleg bend on the shift arm at the base of the mast jacket.

Livrat · 11-16-2011, 11:08 PM

All of the van tilts I have come across have the longer shaft, Some of the early vans 71/72 had the neutral safety switch in the same location as our trucks. Some vans in the middle 70's did not have a slot for the neutral safety switch as it was on the side of the trans. Most all motorhome tilts I have seen had the short shaft but the neutral safety switch location is the same as the van one. plus the motorhome ones usually had the "jog" on the shift lever

VA72C10 · 11-16-2011, 11:24 PM

But NO trucks ever came with the longer shaft, right? (the seller is claiming it came off a 1970 truck)

**leddzepp** · 11-16-2011, 11:29 PM

He states that he bought it from someone else that claimed it came from a 70 CST; this way he removes himself from blame when the buyer realizes he just bought a tilt that will not bolt right in to his truck. This dude knows exactly what he's got and is playing dumb.

VA72C10 · 11-17-2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leddzepp

He states that he bought it from someone else that claimed it came from a 70 CST; this way he removes himself from blame when the buyer realizes he just bought a tilt that will not bolt right in to his truck. This dude knows exactly what he's got and is playing dumb.

That's what I thought...

Didn't like the fact he lied in his response but before I responded to his lie...I wanted to confirm it was

Second guessing myself

VA72C10 · 11-17-2011, 12:24 AM

What's annoying is ebay doesn't have a report option for incorrect item representation....

c1069 · 11-17-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Johnathan,
This column looks to be a van column that somone tried to converted to a truck. Van columns always had the longer shaft. Full size motorhomes tilts had the shorter truck shaft but with a dogleg bend on the shift arm at the base of the mast jacket.

x2
this column comes from a motorhome

VA72C10 · 11-17-2011, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the picture! Hopefully this thread will be good info for people looking at these in the future so they don't pay 3-400 for a van tilt...

shawno72 · 11-17-2011, 04:08 PM

I just reported the item as inappropriate item description.

shawno72 · 11-17-2011, 04:14 PM

I also informed him that his "guy" at the swap meet was wrong and to save himself a headache and revise this item. I doubt he will but you never know.

BurnoutNova · 11-17-2011, 04:29 PM

I thought 70 was the first year for a Truck tilt? He says he's seen the longer shafts on 67-70 trucks????

VA72C10 · 11-17-2011, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawno72

I just reported the item as inappropriate item description.

what detailed reason though? The options they offer don't make sense...

shawno72 · 11-17-2011, 05:27 PM

This is the message I sent him.

'This is NOT a truck tilt column! Whatever that "guy" at the swap meet told you was wrong. It is in fact a van tilt column. You need to revise your listing to save you a headache later if someone buys this assuming that it will bolt right into their truck because it won't.'

And this is what he sent back.

'.'

Haha I guess he has bids so he doesn't care.

screamin_c10 · 11-17-2011, 07:23 PM

Its at 90.00 bucks now, not bad for a van column in that condition LOL....

VA72C10 · 11-17-2011, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screamin_c10

Its at 90.00 bucks now, not bad for a van column in that condition LOL....

Yeah, as nice as it is with the correct wiring and painted, it's worth probably 150-175 shipped to someone wanting one....

Just has a lot of time left and my guess would be it'll sell for over 250 to someone who gets fooled....

hugger6933 · 11-17-2011, 07:48 PM

I have both and will include pics I took today to try and clear this up. The colomns are the same TUBE length the one in high build is a van tilt that I have shaved the "humps" on the top so that I could put in in either my T-5 swap or the C-60 dually truck I am planning with a 454 t400

hugger6933 · 11-17-2011, 07:52 PM

A few more I hope thids clears up some stuff. I have not read all above if this was done while I was out today, sorry. Jim

shawno72 · 11-17-2011, 08:47 PM

Hey go back and look now. This guy relisted the tilt column with an argument that it is not a van tilt

look here> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260896808363 I guess reporting an item does work...

VA72C10 · 11-17-2011, 09:02 PM

That's pretty funny right there....

well...kinda....until someone buy it and tried to install it in their truck...

jbclassix · 11-18-2011, 03:30 AM

where is your green and white patina build? i cant find it

11-16-2011, 06:57 PM	#2
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? I stated it also could be from a motorhome and did note that the wiring was correct... but I guess he missed that part in his response? __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA. Last edited by VA72C10; 11-16-2011 at 07:03 PM.

11-16-2011, 09:30 PM	#3
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,263	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? The motorhome tilt is almost if not the same shaft length as the trucks[as far as shaft length is concerned]. I have two motor home tilts and a van tilt. You can definatly tell the difference in the two just at a glance

11-16-2011, 09:47 PM	#4
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11-16-2011, 10:16 PM	#6
Dave DND Trucks Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 2,382	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? Johnathan, This column looks to be a van column that somone tried to converted to a truck. Van columns always had the longer shaft. Full size motorhomes tilts had the shorter truck shaft but with a dogleg bend on the shift arm at the base of the mast jacket.

11-16-2011, 11:08 PM	#7
Livrat Member #1049 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Troy Montana Posts: 3,940	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? All of the van tilts I have come across have the longer shaft, Some of the early vans 71/72 had the neutral safety switch in the same location as our trucks. Some vans in the middle 70's did not have a slot for the neutral safety switch as it was on the side of the trans. Most all motorhome tilts I have seen had the short shaft but the neutral safety switch location is the same as the van one. plus the motorhome ones usually had the "jog" on the shift lever

11-16-2011, 11:24 PM	#8
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11-16-2011, 11:29 PM	#9
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11-17-2011, 03:28 PM	#13
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? Thanks for the picture! Hopefully this thread will be good info for people looking at these in the future so they don't pay 3-400 for a van tilt... __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

11-17-2011, 04:08 PM	#14
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11-17-2011, 04:14 PM	#15
shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? I also informed him that his "guy" at the swap meet was wrong and to save himself a headache and revise this item. I doubt he will but you never know. __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!"

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11-17-2011, 05:27 PM	#18
shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? This is the message I sent him. 'This is NOT a truck tilt column! Whatever that "guy" at the swap meet told you was wrong. It is in fact a van tilt column. You need to revise your listing to save you a headache later if someone buys this assuming that it will bolt right into their truck because it won't.' And this is what he sent back. '.' Haha I guess he has bids so he doesn't care. __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!" Last edited by shawno72; 11-17-2011 at 05:32 PM.

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11-17-2011, 07:52 PM	#22
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shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Not mine...tilt on ebay...truck or van??? Hey go back and look now. This guy relisted the tilt column with an argument that it is not a van tilt look here> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260896808363 I guess reporting an item does work... __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!"

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