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Mid-Pack · Yesterday, 06:03 PM

New Carbon Tax hike for gas, to coerce consumers into buying EV`s.

https://www.ktvu.com/news/little-kno...ing-gas-prices

**Stocker** · Yesterday, 06:12 PM

When catalytic converters became a mandated fact, I resisted (for various reasons), until my resistance was eventually steamrollered by realities.

EVs reminded me of that distant memory. I wonder how long I can resist EVs. Longer than cats, for sure. Maybe even until I age out. Time will tell.

**Ol Blue K20** · Yesterday, 07:29 PM

I'm keeping my mouth shut. Wh need to vote in the state of Jefferson really quick! How's that for staying out of my corner....

**Stocker** · Yesterday, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

I'm keeping my mouth shut. Wh need to vote in the state of Jefferson really quick! How's that for staying out of my corner....

But but but.... I thought I already lived in Jefferson State!

I know, it's just wishful thinking. I also know, ya gotta be careful what ya wish for.

I bet you're plenty used to that corner by now, Dale!

**68bowtie** · Yesterday, 08:58 PM

I’m hanging out with Dale on this one, I’ll bring the cervezas!

**jerry moss** · Yesterday, 09:32 PM

I work in a repair shop (going on 40 years) that does smogs and exhaust and the laws have changed so much in that time, we used to keep a half dozen catalytic converters in stock and could cover 90% of the vehicles on the road, now we don't keep any in stock since there are thousands of part numbers out there. all CARB certified converters have a part number AND an E.O # that must match the engine family/test group number to be legal for installation and when a smog is due the technician has to look up the numbers on a state data base to verify it matches that particular vehicle. and don't forget the state withdraws numbers constantly so if the customer doesn't have a receipt that shows it was installed prior to that number being withdrawn the vehicle fails the smog test and has to buy a new "legal" converter. it is a cluster f*&k.

sixty8HDC30 · Yesterday, 10:09 PM

Catalytic converters and lead free fuel are some of the main reasons we can breathe somewhat clean air today.

State of Jefferson is a never gonna happen. :P

**1970 CST Short Wide** · Yesterday, 10:27 PM

I’ve driven a Tesla duel Motor and I have to say it was Fast and I liked the Full Power Take off. BUT I would never have one (ok ok I do have an electric mini bike for the Grandkids)
My biggest concern is what are they going to charge for getting ride of dead batteries, you can bet it will be a LOT and New Batteries are More than a LOT
I’m watching the progress on Hydrogen Engines, very interesting

**68bowtie** · Yesterday, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sixty8HDC30

State of Jefferson is a never gonna happen. :P

This is true. A few years ago Californians raised well over the minimum signatures to get a 3-way state split on the ballot, but the state didn't put it on the ballot anyway.

Dirt's72 · Yesterday, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mid-Pack

New Carbon Tax hike for gas, to coerce consumers into buying EV`s.

https://www.ktvu.com/news/little-kno...ing-gas-prices

The green energy scam. Thousands of inventions that could clean our planet have been suppressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZRwlYtAMps

sixty8HDC30 · Yesterday, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 68bowtie

This is true. A few years ago Californians raised well over the minimum signatures to get a 3-way state split on the ballot, but the state didn't put it on the ballot anyway.

Everything I stated was true. Even if if it got on the ballot it would never pass a statewide vote, its just a pipe dream.

yuccales · Yesterday, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

I'm keeping my mouth shut. We need to vote in the state of Jefferson really quick!

I see the Governor of Jefferson on the porch of the new state house!

**68bowtie** · Today, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sixty8HDC30

Everything I stated was true. Even if if it got on the ballot it would never pass a statewide vote, its just a pipe dream.

I was sincerely agreeing.

My point was it won’t even make it to a ballot, even if legally it’s required to.

**Boog** · Today, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by yuccales

I see the Governor of Jefferson on the porch of the new state house!

Ah, Daleville!

**Ol Blue K20** · Today, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by yuccales

I see the Governor of Jefferson on the porch of the new state house!

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Originally Posted by Boog

Ah, Daleville!

**Ol Blue K20** · Today, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 68bowtie

I’m hanging out with Dale on this one, I’ll bring the cervezas!

I'm ready!

**Sheepdip** · Today, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 68bowtie

I’m hanging out with Dale on this one, I’ll bring the cervezas!

Can we "Carpool" as I don't think I can afford the gas?

The wife and I used to go out to eat lunch or dinner about once a week just because, but now lunch is $30-$40 for the both of us...Ouch!!

Not so much anymore maybe once a month.

Now we have to add in more gas tax which has the trickle down effect to everything. But bottom line is I am old enough that I will not ever own an electric automobile, my golf cart I run around the place with is as close as I'll ever get.

**Stocker** · Today, 12:18 PM

Loosely related to the EV discussion -- okay, very loosely related -- my acceptance of battery-powered tools has expanded again. Years ago I got a cordless Milwaukee drill and have been very impressed with it. Last year I bought an EGO cordless string trimmer. I like it enough that when my gas mower decided it didn't want to keep gas inside its tank, I looked into EGO mowers and brought one home this morning. Unpacked it but haven't tried it yet.

Tools are a far cry from vehicles though, and I still don't see a battery-powered car or truck in my future.

LS short box · Today, 04:10 PM

For some a EV will make sense. But having said that the juice to recharge them doesn't come current bushes. I think the hybrids make much more sense. Electric for short trips and gas for longer distance trip.
Just FYI Hertz just took in the shorts to the tune of 500 million with all the EV's they bought and no one wanted to rent. They are selling them off at a huge discount.

Yesterday, 06:03 PM	#1
Mid-Pack Registered User Join Date: May 2021 Location: SoCal Posts: 115	Thanks California and CARB New Carbon Tax hike for gas, to coerce consumers into buying EV`s. https://www.ktvu.com/news/little-kno...ing-gas-prices

Yesterday, 06:12 PM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,516	Re: Thanks California and CARB When catalytic converters became a mandated fact, I resisted (for various reasons), until my resistance was eventually steamrollered by realities. EVs reminded me of that distant memory. I wonder how long I can resist EVs. Longer than cats, for sure. Maybe even until I age out. Time will tell. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

Yesterday, 07:29 PM	#3
Ol Blue K20 Proprietor of Dale's Corner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Vacaville , CA Posts: 15,846	Re: Thanks California and CARB I'm keeping my mouth shut. Wh need to vote in the state of Jefferson really quick! How's that for staying out of my corner.... __________________ "Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man

Yesterday, 08:58 PM	#5
68bowtie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Turlock, CA Posts: 8,427	Re: Thanks California and CARB I’m hanging out with Dale on this one, I’ll bring the cervezas! __________________ I live in California, but identify as a Texan "If a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well" Project "Little Sister" (70 c10 blue original paint refresh) Project "C10 Fever" (68 factory black 396 swb) Project "Blue Bomb" (70 c30 blue original paint refresh) Project "Vitamin C" (71 c10 orange original paint refresh)

Yesterday, 09:32 PM	#6
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,753	Re: Thanks California and CARB I work in a repair shop (going on 40 years) that does smogs and exhaust and the laws have changed so much in that time, we used to keep a half dozen catalytic converters in stock and could cover 90% of the vehicles on the road, now we don't keep any in stock since there are thousands of part numbers out there. all CARB certified converters have a part number AND an E.O # that must match the engine family/test group number to be legal for installation and when a smog is due the technician has to look up the numbers on a state data base to verify it matches that particular vehicle. and don't forget the state withdraws numbers constantly so if the customer doesn't have a receipt that shows it was installed prior to that number being withdrawn the vehicle fails the smog test and has to buy a new "legal" converter. it is a cluster f*&k. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

Yesterday, 10:09 PM	#7
sixty8HDC30 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Nunya Bizz Posts: 64	Re: Thanks California and CARB Catalytic converters and lead free fuel are some of the main reasons we can breathe somewhat clean air today. State of Jefferson is a never gonna happen. :P __________________ ____________________________________ 1968 Chevrolet C-30 327 4spd flat bed dually 157" WB 1997 Chevrolet k1500 5.0 auto ECSB

Yesterday, 10:27 PM	#8
1970 CST Short Wide Senior Moment Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pittsburg Ca Posts: 4,061	Re: Thanks California and CARB I’ve driven a Tesla duel Motor and I have to say it was Fast and I liked the Full Power Take off. BUT I would never have one (ok ok I do have an electric mini bike for the Grandkids) My biggest concern is what are they going to charge for getting ride of dead batteries, you can bet it will be a LOT and New Batteries are More than a LOT I’m watching the progress on Hydrogen Engines, very interesting __________________ 1970 CST LS 1 6 speed Ford 9 inch Detroit Tru Track, Dakota Didgital, Vintage Air, QA1 Coil Overs Front & Rear Lots of FUN 2013 GMC PU, Oldest Son 71 GMC LWB. QA1 Suspension, Angry SB. Youngest Son 2019 GMC Diesil Dually. Youngest Son 2017 Toyota SUV Daughters car 2018 Traverse , Wife’s Ride Pittsburg Ca 94565

Today, 12:18 PM	#18
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,516	Re: Thanks California and CARB Loosely related to the EV discussion -- okay, very loosely related -- my acceptance of battery-powered tools has expanded again. Years ago I got a cordless Milwaukee drill and have been very impressed with it. Last year I bought an EGO cordless string trimmer. I like it enough that when my gas mower decided it didn't want to keep gas inside its tank, I looked into EGO mowers and brought one home this morning. Unpacked it but haven't tried it yet. Tools are a far cry from vehicles though, and I still don't see a battery-powered car or truck in my future. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

Today, 04:10 PM	#19
LS short box Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Carlos MN Posts: 1,934	Re: Thanks California and CARB For some a EV will make sense. But having said that the juice to recharge them doesn't come current bushes. I think the hybrids make much more sense. Electric for short trips and gas for longer distance trip. Just FYI Hertz just took in the shorts to the tune of 500 million with all the EV's they bought and no one wanted to rent. They are selling them off at a huge discount.



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