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asphaltburner · 07-30-2009, 09:48 PM

Yo! Seen this?:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/30/auto...nded/index.htm
Minor glitch in the "cash for clunkers" program!
Todd.

**Stocker** · 07-31-2009, 01:00 AM

Yup, it was on tonight's news... the program was more successful than had been anticipated, now the feds need to re-think things.

*Shane* · 07-31-2009, 10:02 AM

6 days and it's already broke??? and they want to manage my health care?

tcb-1 · 08-01-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

6 days and it's already broke??? and they want to manage my health care?

Shane, no truer words spoken, my friend.

......oh and I'm one of those cynical engineers too. darn us for seeing the absolute in things.

larry may · 08-04-2009, 07:29 AM

*Shane* · 08-04-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by larry may

What does this have to do with Cash for Clunkers - are you trying to get this thread closed?

larry may · 08-04-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

What does this have to do with Cash for Clunkers - are you trying to get this thread closed?

No Shane was re : Something you mentioned.in an earlier reply in this thread.

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ERASER5 · 08-01-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

6 days and it's already broke??? and they want to manage my health care?

!!! Nailed that one!

**Chevy Fleetside** · 07-31-2009, 10:05 AM

I got the letter today from the resorce board in Cali. They will give me $1000 for my 79 Chevy 4x4. It has a crate engine with about 40 to 50,000 miles on it and a built 700R4 with NP208 transfer case out of an 88 suburban. Those two alone are worth more then the $1000 to me anyway. The shift kit is has can acually chirp my 33/12.50's sometimes. How much can I sell the truck for? Maybe 12 or $1300 if I am lucky. It has some rust but not a whole lot. I noticed it starting under the fenders and doors now, but the cab is solid for now. I took the water holding mat out a while back. This is the only picture I have of in on this computer. It has a 4" lift kit in it also. And that stuff in the back is the suburban that the tranny came out of..

**N2TRUX** · 07-31-2009, 10:11 AM

It's had an overwhelming response. My concern is how many people are they pushing through that can't really afford the new car payment just to make a sale.

Naaah, they wouldn't do that...would they?

**Chevy Fleetside** · 07-31-2009, 10:21 AM

I keep hearing comercials here on the radio about how your clunker can bring in $4500 and they you get $4000 off sticker and then $1500 in incentives which can get you a new Ford Focus or something for $4000. I thought about doing that just to resell the car later.

**old Rusty C10** · 07-31-2009, 10:32 AM

Dodge ( the car nobody wants) is offering double cash...it would be funny if they had to eat the deals they already did but unfortunately it wont be the factory that suffers just more of their dealers... Chrysler should have gone under in 81 or so the first time they went bankrupt

bw4sale · 07-31-2009, 01:33 PM

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6 days and it's already broke??? and they want to manage my health care?

Exactly!

69lemans · 07-31-2009, 02:27 PM

I'll keep my paid for clunkers,thank you very much. I can buy a LOT of gas with the money I've saved by not having a car payment for ten years,not to mention lower insurance premiums by driving older cars,and lower personal property taxes to boot

**El Jay** · 07-31-2009, 02:34 PM

I just read that within the last hour the House "overwhelmingly" approved another $2 BILLION to keep the program going.
It's now headed to the Senate!

*Shane* · 07-31-2009, 03:57 PM

foolishly spending more money that they don't have ....

MacAttack · 07-31-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

foolishly spending more money that they don't have ....

They don't, but you do..........

retodd7711 · 07-31-2009, 06:00 PM

I haver mixed feelings about the whole deal.
I truly believe small dealers are just selling off their inventory and will close while they have $$$ in their pockets.
On the other hand 250,000 car sales due to the rebate program.
On the other hand, how many of those car sales were American-made vehicles.
As I pump $20 in gas into my 47 year old "CLUNKER"

bigblock73 · 07-31-2009, 07:57 PM

What makes no sense to me, is they are simply destroying these "clunkers". Our local news program showed them intentionally seizing the engines so they would no longer run. These appeared to be perfectly good vehicles.

Wouldn't it make more sense to donate these to charities where people could actually USE them (the good operable ones at least)...or re-sell them somehow so low income families could purchase a vehicle to...get to a job/work, take care of their family, etc??

Makes no sense to me, what a waste...and not a very "green" thing to do either.

nds1968 · 07-31-2009, 08:13 PM

Yep they are seizing the motors up. I know A guy who works at a Chevy dealer. He said today he had to blow up a 350 motor in a 94 Chey truck with 80,000 miles. They drain the oil and add water and an additive to the motor then he starts them up and holds it to the floor. It took 3 minutes to kill the 350.

He said Dodge motors only take 30 seconds.

1956cameo · 07-31-2009, 08:22 PM

Programs also make it harder for the low income families in need of a car. The fewer "clunkers" that are out there the more people will have to pay for a cheap beater. Supply and demand. I guess it doesnt matter beceause in some states the government is buying cars for low income residents.

corn · 07-31-2009, 10:19 PM

Basiclly they use 4 cans of the stuff pictured (Sodium silicate )& 2 quarts of water to replace the oil & in about 2 minutes the engine is toast. I asked a parts guy at the ford dealership yesterday "Isnt that sorta like shooting your dog? We are car guys & are now being told to ruin cars?" He agreed but was grinning the whole time like he really enjoyed it. Not me, I could never intentionally ever ruin a car...

Blue_71 · 08-01-2009, 12:07 AM

you would not believe some of the stuff we have had traded in so far. we have a 90-94 stepside sitting there that doesnt look like the interior has ever been sit in... a 88 GMC k1500 with 150K miles, a 86 K10 with 4 speed.... all three are perfectly drivable clean trucks... they expect us to lock the engines up in them... ive already told them there is no way in hell i will lock up a perfectly good running small block when ive spent the past 6 months looking for a rebuildable bottem end for my 89

**special-K** · 08-01-2009, 06:54 AM

Is being too sucessful a bad thing?There`s no comparison to this program and the complex process of coming up with a health care bill that works.Any comparison is foolish.At least both of these measures are an attempt at helping the people of American rather than ignoring.It`s not like we got into this enormous deficit owing China and Japan mega bucks since January.
I think $4,500 is too much to offer.It should be about 1/2.There`s already all these other incentives and it`s not like dealers aren`t already offering the best deals they can.
I don`t like the seizing motors mandate.The whiole clunker mentality is wrong.The title can be killed to assure the vehicle is gone for good.There`s nothing illegal (yet) about keeping an old vehicle running.All new emissions and mileage requirements don`t effect what was built prior.Time takes care of the majority of older model vehicles.Lower income people (there`s not a good paying job for everyone) need these vehicles and they need to repair them..

67shortie · 08-01-2009, 07:13 AM

Indirectly affected, I am looking for a square body 'Burb for the family, and a few I have looked at are priced higher now because the owners say if they can't get what they ask, off it goes to the 'clunkers' program and get more than what the truck is worth in this market.

Sad really, there are a few nice trucks I looked at that the world (and I) will lose.

07-30-2009, 09:48 PM	#1
asphaltburner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ault, Colorado Posts: 862	Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? Yo! Seen this?: http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/30/auto...nded/index.htm Minor glitch in the "cash for clunkers" program! Todd. __________________ '78 3/4 ton 4x4 custom "Todd-built" FRANKENTRUCK! Last edited by asphaltburner; 07-30-2009 at 11:25 PM.

07-31-2009, 01:00 AM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,655	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? Yup, it was on tonight's news... the program was more successful than had been anticipated, now the feds need to re-think things. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

07-31-2009, 10:02 AM	#3
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? 6 days and it's already broke??? and they want to manage my health care?

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larry may Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: MISSOURI Posts: 3,256	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? __________________ The biggest problem people have, is other people Thou shalt be cool and not hassle Be a site supporter. The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool inclines to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 Last edited by N2TRUX; 08-06-2009 at 10:22 AM.

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Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,780	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? I got the letter today from the resorce board in Cali. They will give me $1000 for my 79 Chevy 4x4. It has a crate engine with about 40 to 50,000 miles on it and a built 700R4 with NP208 transfer case out of an 88 suburban. Those two alone are worth more then the $1000 to me anyway. The shift kit is has can acually chirp my 33/12.50's sometimes. How much can I sell the truck for? Maybe 12 or $1300 if I am lucky. It has some rust but not a whole lot. I noticed it starting under the fenders and doors now, but the cab is solid for now. I took the water holding mat out a while back. This is the only picture I have of in on this computer. It has a 4" lift kit in it also. And that stuff in the back is the suburban that the tranny came out of.. Attached Images __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536 Last edited by Chevy Fleetside; 07-31-2009 at 10:08 AM.

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N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? It's had an overwhelming response. My concern is how many people are they pushing through that can't really afford the new car payment just to make a sale. Naaah, they wouldn't do that...would they? __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

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Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,780	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? I keep hearing comercials here on the radio about how your clunker can bring in $4500 and they you get $4000 off sticker and then $1500 in incentives which can get you a new Ford Focus or something for $4000. I thought about doing that just to resell the car later. __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

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07-31-2009, 02:27 PM	#14
69lemans Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: simpsonville,sc Posts: 417	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? I'll keep my paid for clunkers,thank you very much. I can buy a LOT of gas with the money I've saved by not having a car payment for ten years,not to mention lower insurance premiums by driving older cars,and lower personal property taxes to boot

07-31-2009, 02:34 PM	#15
El Jay Gone to greener pastures Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gateway to the Delta Posts: 7,354	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? I just read that within the last hour the House "overwhelmingly" approved another $2 BILLION to keep the program going. It's now headed to the Senate! __________________ '69 Chevy 1/2 T LWB Stepper: Daily Beater '72 GMC 3/4 T Fleet: Another Daily Beater '72 Plymouth Gran Coupe: ? "Ah women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent." Friedrich Nietzsche "Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day." Harry S. Truman GUN CONTROL: Never having to say, "I missed you." Always fire two warning shots into your attacker's chest area before putting a bullet between his eyes. Paraphrased from Louis Awerbuck Last edited by El Jay; 07-31-2009 at 02:35 PM.

07-31-2009, 03:57 PM	#16
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? foolishly spending more money that they don't have ....

07-31-2009, 06:00 PM	#18
retodd7711 chrome makes it go FASTER! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cleveland Tennessee Posts: 2,884	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? I haver mixed feelings about the whole deal. I truly believe small dealers are just selling off their inventory and will close while they have $$$ in their pockets. On the other hand 250,000 car sales due to the rebate program. On the other hand, how many of those car sales were American-made vehicles. As I pump $20 in gas into my 47 year old "CLUNKER" __________________ She can't cook and she won't clean. But she looks good in a skirt and she brings me beer. She can stay for now. EDIT:: But she left me anyway, So forget her. 1962 GMC Stepside V6 4 speed My rolling resto thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=324226 My old farm truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3465005

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bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,826	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? What makes no sense to me, is they are simply destroying these "clunkers". Our local news program showed them intentionally seizing the engines so they would no longer run. These appeared to be perfectly good vehicles. Wouldn't it make more sense to donate these to charities where people could actually USE them (the good operable ones at least)...or re-sell them somehow so low income families could purchase a vehicle to...get to a job/work, take care of their family, etc?? Makes no sense to me, what a waste...and not a very "green" thing to do either. __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale

07-31-2009, 08:13 PM	#20
nds1968 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,694	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? Yep they are seizing the motors up. I know A guy who works at a Chevy dealer. He said today he had to blow up a 350 motor in a 94 Chey truck with 80,000 miles. They drain the oil and add water and an additive to the motor then he starts them up and holds it to the floor. It took 3 minutes to kill the 350. He said Dodge motors only take 30 seconds. __________________ Nate 1967 short fleet Project Blue Goose 'If it don't bounce back... heeheehee you go hungry!" Blues Brothers

07-31-2009, 08:22 PM	#21
1956cameo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Angleton, TX Posts: 2,219	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? Programs also make it harder for the low income families in need of a car. The fewer "clunkers" that are out there the more people will have to pay for a cheap beater. Supply and demand. I guess it doesnt matter beceause in some states the government is buying cars for low income residents.



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07-31-2009, 10:19 PM	#22
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	Re: Suspend "Cash For Clunkers"? Basiclly they use 4 cans of the stuff pictured (Sodium silicate )& 2 quarts of water to replace the oil & in about 2 minutes the engine is toast. I asked a parts guy at the ford dealership yesterday "Isnt that sorta like shooting your dog? We are car guys & are now being told to ruin cars?" He agreed but was grinning the whole time like he really enjoyed it. Not me, I could never intentionally ever ruin a car... Last edited by corn; 07-31-2009 at 10:20 PM.

08-01-2009, 06:54 AM	#24
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08-01-2009, 07:13 AM	#25
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