trans to bell housing ??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 04:58 PM

ok i when to bolt my 4 speed up to me bellhousing and the hole in is too big by about 1/4 " (see first pic)
is this gap a problem or can i just bolt it up and not worry about it?? everything eles fits great

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 05:06 PM

also is this a ratio?

1st 3.50
2nd 2.48
3rd 1.65
4th 1.00

cruiserman · 11-14-2007, 05:08 PM

Not a problem IMO.

Garage Freak · 11-14-2007, 05:09 PM

Looks great to me.

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 05:21 PM

i was told that i hekps the align the trans, but if it goes into the clutch fine and the bolts line up than it should be fine right?

Tx Firefighter · 11-14-2007, 06:35 PM

Some guys who I really respect have told me that a thin spacer ring is order of the day there. It's critical that the crank and mainshaft centerlines are identical.

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

Some guys who I really respect have told me that a thin spacer ring is order of the day there. It's critical that the crank and mainshaft centerlines are identical.

where can i get this spacer ring?

Tx Firefighter · 11-14-2007, 07:58 PM

The main guy I remember is a HAMB'r named Squirrel. I believe he wound up making his own.

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 08:09 PM

would you happen to know how he made it?

Tx Firefighter · 11-14-2007, 08:19 PM

Knowing that maniac, I'm sure he made one out of billet steel on a lathe and mill. He's way beyond me when it comes to this stuff.

crazy longhorn · 11-14-2007, 08:34 PM

You can also use the input bearing retainer from a saginaw 3spd(68-up truck), or opt for a 67 or older truck bell to run the car trans....

L

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy longhorn

You can also use the input bearing retainer from a saginaw 3spd(68-up truck), or opt for a 67 or older truck bell to run the car trans....

L

ok so i dont know i thing about trannys so what is the input bearing retainer?
i do have 2 saginaw 3 speeds to take one off (if i new what one was)

Tx Firefighter · 11-14-2007, 09:53 PM

It's that big cast iron front piece that fits into the bellhousing bore.

cstm68 · 11-14-2007, 11:33 PM

so if i pull thoes 4 bolts out will it just slide off over the shaft?

will it take anything out with it or will anything try to fall out?

by the way thanx for all the help guys

Livrat · 11-15-2007, 12:43 AM

Yes, Just remove the bolts and it will slide off.. nothing will fall out.

cstm68 · 11-15-2007, 01:13 AM

thanx for all the help.

prg machine · 11-15-2007, 08:47 AM

just go get the right bell housing. I wouldn't run that tranny with all of that clearance in the bell. Bell housings are cheap.

crazy longhorn · 11-15-2007, 09:31 AM

There is a gasket to replace, & a seal inside the collar. You will be wise to go ahead & replace the front bearing on the input shaft while you are in there. i have seen that front bearing let go & scatter the trans. When you pull the collar, you will see a snap ring on the input shaft.....remove that & carfully wiggle the bearing off. The shaft should stay with the trans, but will try to move foward. I would hold pressure rearward on the shaft to keep the shaft in place,& 4th gear syncro in its keys. Button it up & you are good to go. The truck bell(68 -up) has a 5 1/8" center hole, vs the 4 11/16" hole for the car , or the 67 & older truck.

L

11-14-2007, 04:58 PM	#1
cstm68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: shoreline, wa Posts: 1,565	trans to bell housing ??? ok i when to bolt my 4 speed up to me bellhousing and the hole in is too big by about 1/4 " (see first pic) is this gap a problem or can i just bolt it up and not worry about it?? everything eles fits great Attached Images __________________ 68 swb fleet bagged on 20's 327 with 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223308 2014 Chevy 2500hd duramax CCLB

11-14-2007, 05:06 PM	#2
cstm68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: shoreline, wa Posts: 1,565	Re: trans to bell housing ??? also is this a ratio? 1st 3.50 2nd 2.48 3rd 1.65 4th 1.00 __________________ 68 swb fleet bagged on 20's 327 with 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223308 2014 Chevy 2500hd duramax CCLB

11-14-2007, 05:08 PM	#3
cruiserman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 210	Re: trans to bell housing ??? Not a problem IMO. __________________ 72 C2500 LWB 402 Sierra Grande 05 Odyssey 08 Tundra

11-14-2007, 05:09 PM	#4
Garage Freak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 43	Re: trans to bell housing ??? Looks great to me.

11-14-2007, 05:21 PM	#5
cstm68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: shoreline, wa Posts: 1,565	Re: trans to bell housing ??? i was told that i hekps the align the trans, but if it goes into the clutch fine and the bolts line up than it should be fine right? __________________ 68 swb fleet bagged on 20's 327 with 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223308 2014 Chevy 2500hd duramax CCLB

11-14-2007, 06:35 PM	#6
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: trans to bell housing ??? Some guys who I really respect have told me that a thin spacer ring is order of the day there. It's critical that the crank and mainshaft centerlines are identical. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

11-14-2007, 07:58 PM	#8
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: trans to bell housing ??? The main guy I remember is a HAMB'r named Squirrel. I believe he wound up making his own. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

11-14-2007, 08:09 PM	#9
cstm68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: shoreline, wa Posts: 1,565	Re: trans to bell housing ??? would you happen to know how he made it? __________________ 68 swb fleet bagged on 20's 327 with 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223308 2014 Chevy 2500hd duramax CCLB

11-14-2007, 08:19 PM	#10
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: trans to bell housing ??? Knowing that maniac, I'm sure he made one out of billet steel on a lathe and mill. He's way beyond me when it comes to this stuff. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

11-14-2007, 08:34 PM	#11
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Re: trans to bell housing ??? You can also use the input bearing retainer from a saginaw 3spd(68-up truck), or opt for a 67 or older truck bell to run the car trans....L __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

11-14-2007, 09:53 PM	#13
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: trans to bell housing ??? It's that big cast iron front piece that fits into the bellhousing bore. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

11-14-2007, 11:33 PM	#14
cstm68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: shoreline, wa Posts: 1,565	Re: trans to bell housing ??? so if i pull thoes 4 bolts out will it just slide off over the shaft? will it take anything out with it or will anything try to fall out? by the way thanx for all the help guys __________________ 68 swb fleet bagged on 20's 327 with 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223308 2014 Chevy 2500hd duramax CCLB Last edited by cstm68; 11-14-2007 at 11:33 PM.

11-15-2007, 12:43 AM	#15
Livrat Member #1049 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Troy Montana Posts: 3,940	Re: trans to bell housing ??? Yes, Just remove the bolts and it will slide off.. nothing will fall out.

11-15-2007, 01:13 AM	#16
cstm68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: shoreline, wa Posts: 1,565	Re: trans to bell housing ??? thanx for all the help. __________________ 68 swb fleet bagged on 20's 327 with 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223308 2014 Chevy 2500hd duramax CCLB

11-15-2007, 08:47 AM	#17
prg machine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 1,069	Re: trans to bell housing ??? just go get the right bell housing. I wouldn't run that tranny with all of that clearance in the bell. Bell housings are cheap.



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11-15-2007, 09:31 AM	#18
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Re: trans to bell housing ??? There is a gasket to replace, & a seal inside the collar. You will be wise to go ahead & replace the front bearing on the input shaft while you are in there. i have seen that front bearing let go & scatter the trans. When you pull the collar, you will see a snap ring on the input shaft.....remove that & carfully wiggle the bearing off. The shaft should stay with the trans, but will try to move foward. I would hold pressure rearward on the shaft to keep the shaft in place,& 4th gear syncro in its keys. Button it up & you are good to go. The truck bell(68 -up) has a 5 1/8" center hole, vs the 4 11/16" hole for the car , or the 67 & older truck. L __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears.... Last edited by crazy longhorn; 11-15-2007 at 09:33 AM.

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