HEADS UP Burnt on Ebay by clmwenger*telus.net - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**GMCPaul** · 03-31-2002, 02:16 AM

This is just a heads up on this seller, I do not want violence, email spamming, etc... or other forms of retaliation. Just don't want to see anyone else get burned.
I bid on and one a 1967 GMC Grill Jan. 21st of this year, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eb...508230&r=0&t=0
mailed payment he requested of $45 for grill and $23.75 for UPS delivery the very next day. Well on Feb. 7th I contacted seller wondering if grill had been shipped yet and if so please give me the tracking #, response was just received payment, thought odd I sent this the 22nd, checked our records and found he cashed the payment the 30th of Jan., I replied back to him on Feb. 19th that I still had not received grill and could I please have the tracking # that it had been 30 days since auction end and , his reply was intially that it shipped UPS then came back as UPS misquoted shipping costs, and that they had now shipped it Greyhound, I contacted him immediatelly to let him know the nearest greyhound terminal was 1 1/2 hour drive. Well appears that did not matter to him as no response, well still no contact from Greyhound or him, a request for a refund of our money was met with send the grill back and I will refund your money. I informed him we never received a grill to ship back and if I had received it I would not be bothering him. Well again no further contact. Well since I am not a total idiot at end of Feb. I filed a fraud complaint with ebay, well now I submit to ebay for insurance on $20 of $45 spent on purchase of grill, I can't file with his states attorney general as he lives in Canada and only uses a Washington state mail drop to receive email payments. I am contacting Wash. state to see if since he uses them as a mail drop if we can persue legal action in that state and same with US Postal service since we mailed payment. His response to all this
"TAKE A HIKE!! GET A LIFE!!"
So Heads Up as EBAY still has not banned him!!!!!!! 6 NEGATIVES and 3 neutrals on 73 auctions. I am the 3rd person to have to resort to some form of legal action and ebay's fraud services to try and get some settlement on this.
GMCPaul

Firearmfiend · 03-31-2002, 02:19 AM

that sucks

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'70 C-10 Short/Fleet 350 (in the family since new)
'70 C-10 Long/Fleet 307 (the Death Machine because it seems like it'll kill you to drive in it)

jostrans68 · 03-31-2002, 02:30 AM

Is this Clown a dealer in Gm stuff or what I was looking at stuff he had before ... It is just a short road trip for me to canada. Guys like this suck I have sold on ebay for 3 yrs never a prob, the one neg I have is with someone who wouldnt pay me and claimed I didnt notify oh well guys like this will get theirs......

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68 c20 in progress 327 TH400 tach dash Disc Brakes and soon 3.90 rear gears.. have many new parts now just need the time..... Sound Familar
Tacoma Wa. The Rain capitol of the USA

**GMCPaul** · 03-31-2002, 02:44 AM

He deals alot in New and Used GM parts. He is a very deceptive seller. He will post a new part for sale stating he sold the vehicle he was going to put it on and his loss is your gain, then after that one sells he puts another one on. 2 of the other 3 persueing legal action left negative then he replied they were satisfied in a reply to negative, such was not the case I have discovered in emailing with them in fact he took pretty much the same stance with them. "GET A LIFE"
I don't want anyone driving up there, or threats, or any other such actions from board members, in fact if this post turns into that type posts by others I will delete it so please don't as I want others to be aware of this mans bussiness practices, I just want you all to know and BIDDERS BEWARE
GMCPaul

Pont · 03-31-2002, 03:08 AM

Thanks for the heads-up on this character. It's much appreciated that you took the time to post and warn others before someone on the board gets burned. Thanks again........

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67 SWB 4x4 - 396 BB / SM420 4 spd
8" lift / 15x14 Welds & 35X14.5 SSR's
Grants Pass, OR

O2Bsogood · 03-31-2002, 04:41 AM

I would take whatever legal action I could. At least your feedback is still alright. clmwenger*telus.net (55) Jan-31-02 22:40:23 PST 600508230 B
Praise : Now this is a Quality Place to deal with!! People with both know how and class!!
He proves he already got your check and says your a good person to deal with(which we all know). Don't let him get away with this. And thanks for the warning. Now he won't screw anybody else on this board atleast. At least I hope not.

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Alma, AR
70' Chevy Shortwide Fleetside-bagged front and rear, 350/350
69' Chevelle
96' Camaro
My Website

Alexis · 03-31-2002, 04:49 AM

GMC, i say you visit him and whip his a$s, i'll help you if its on a weekend

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Mechanic @ California Concept
Britney: 1970 2wd K/5 Blazer (Frame up)
Jessica: 1967 2wd SWB (pops daily driver)
Helga: 1972 4x4 3/4ton LWB (my daily driver)

AIM:Alexmart1
Mountain View, Cali

**StingRay** · 03-31-2002, 09:36 AM

Paul, let me know his name, phone and address details as best you can. I live up here in Canada and will do my best to give this guy a bad rep around where I live. Is this the same guy that screwed a fellow board member on a truck by misrepresenting the truck? Sounds like that guy near Calgary? Also maybe we should as a group let E-bay know that we don't appreciate being exposed to that kind of seller.

Slammed67 · 03-31-2002, 10:32 AM

Whewwww! I almost bid on that grille! Good luck!

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Current project: The "HACKstoration" 1967 GMC shortbed/fleetside, 350/700R4, air bag suspension, 18" billet wheels. Other vehicle of interest: 1957 Chevy Bel-Air 4dr hard top, 283/powerglide, lowered 3-1/2" in front and 2 inches in the rear.

Web Site: jaySpot.com AOL Screen Name: Slammed67GMC Location: Kansas City, MO

Huck · 03-31-2002, 11:00 AM

You know, I would be more upset with the SCHMUCKS at 3-bay for not taking any action. In essence they are sanctioning his theft by not taking him off e-bay. He's a thief and the e-bay organization is allowing him to continue. THEY ARE WORSE!!!!!!!!!!

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72 Cheyenne, 350, 5spd, LWB, Super trim.
71 GMC JIMMY 4X4 --needs stuff-!

O'l Buck · 03-31-2002, 09:23 PM

Thanks for the advise, Paul, I'll never bid on anything he's got for auction.

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'72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84
ralleys and 31/10.5s

67 Cutlass convertible
330, 3spd stick

90 GMC Jimmy
350/auto
Chad Stephens
Orleans,NE

barn9 · 03-31-2002, 09:27 PM

Hey Paul! Use ebay's message boards to bring attention to this guy. There are some ebay employees and users that watch those boards pretty closely, and some of them love to go after the "bad guys". Also sounds like this guy is using the postal service to commit fraud, and they don't like that! Keep us posted about this creep. People like him can be dealt with without going up there and kicking his butt, even though that's what he needs!

------------------[*]'71 Cheyenne, 402BB[*]Winfield, KS[*] http://barn9.freeservers.com[*] steer50@hotmail.com

REPO1 · 03-31-2002, 09:39 PM

Hey, I live just north of Calgary. Is that where he is? I'm up for a drive.........

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Sylvan Lake, Alberta, Canada

1970 Chevy C20 Custom Camper
#s matching 402BB Turbo 400 trans.
Air conditioning, power steering, manual brakes.
73,600 Original Miles!!

03-31-2002, 02:16 AM	#1
GMCPaul Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Rockville,In. USA Posts: 3,718	*HEADS UP Burnt on Ebay by clmwengertelus.net** This is just a heads up on this seller, I do not want violence, email spamming, etc... or other forms of retaliation. Just don't want to see anyone else get burned. I bid on and one a 1967 GMC Grill Jan. 21st of this year, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eb...508230&r=0&t=0 mailed payment he requested of $45 for grill and $23.75 for UPS delivery the very next day. Well on Feb. 7th I contacted seller wondering if grill had been shipped yet and if so please give me the tracking #, response was just received payment, thought odd I sent this the 22nd, checked our records and found he cashed the payment the 30th of Jan., I replied back to him on Feb. 19th that I still had not received grill and could I please have the tracking # that it had been 30 days since auction end and , his reply was intially that it shipped UPS then came back as UPS misquoted shipping costs, and that they had now shipped it Greyhound, I contacted him immediatelly to let him know the nearest greyhound terminal was 1 1/2 hour drive. Well appears that did not matter to him as no response, well still no contact from Greyhound or him, a request for a refund of our money was met with send the grill back and I will refund your money. I informed him we never received a grill to ship back and if I had received it I would not be bothering him. Well again no further contact. Well since I am not a total idiot at end of Feb. I filed a fraud complaint with ebay, well now I submit to ebay for insurance on $20 of $45 spent on purchase of grill, I can't file with his states attorney general as he lives in Canada and only uses a Washington state mail drop to receive email payments. I am contacting Wash. state to see if since he uses them as a mail drop if we can persue legal action in that state and same with US Postal service since we mailed payment. His response to all this "TAKE A HIKE!! GET A LIFE!!" So Heads Up as EBAY still has not banned him!!!!!!! 6 NEGATIVES and 3 neutrals on 73 auctions. I am the 3rd person to have to resort to some form of legal action and ebay's fraud services to try and get some settlement on this. GMCPaul __________________ Secure Online Catalog for-GMCPauls Truck Parts Email- GMCPAULS@GMAIL.COM

03-31-2002, 02:19 AM	#2
Firearmfiend Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: San Rafael, CA, USA Posts: 157	that sucks ------------------ '70 C-10 Short/Fleet 350 (in the family since new) '70 C-10 Long/Fleet 307 (the Death Machine because it seems like it'll kill you to drive in it) __________________ '70 C-10 Short/Fleet 350 In the family since new and more than 300K on the odometer!

03-31-2002, 02:30 AM	#3
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	Is this Clown a dealer in Gm stuff or what I was looking at stuff he had before ... It is just a short road trip for me to canada. Guys like this suck I have sold on ebay for 3 yrs never a prob, the one neg I have is with someone who wouldnt pay me and claimed I didnt notify oh well guys like this will get theirs...... ------------------ 68 c20 in progress 327 TH400 tach dash Disc Brakes and soon 3.90 rear gears.. have many new parts now just need the time..... Sound Familar Tacoma Wa. The Rain capitol of the USA __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado

03-31-2002, 02:44 AM	#4
GMCPaul Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Rockville,In. USA Posts: 3,718	He deals alot in New and Used GM parts. He is a very deceptive seller. He will post a new part for sale stating he sold the vehicle he was going to put it on and his loss is your gain, then after that one sells he puts another one on. 2 of the other 3 persueing legal action left negative then he replied they were satisfied in a reply to negative, such was not the case I have discovered in emailing with them in fact he took pretty much the same stance with them. "GET A LIFE" I don't want anyone driving up there, or threats, or any other such actions from board members, in fact if this post turns into that type posts by others I will delete it so please don't as I want others to be aware of this mans bussiness practices, I just want you all to know and BIDDERS BEWARE GMCPaul __________________ Secure Online Catalog for-GMCPauls Truck Parts Email- GMCPAULS@GMAIL.COM

03-31-2002, 03:08 AM	#5
Pont I need another Barley Pop Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,629	Thanks for the heads-up on this character. It's much appreciated that you took the time to post and warn others before someone on the board gets burned. Thanks again........ ------------------ 67 SWB 4x4 - 396 BB / SM420 4 spd 8" lift / 15x14 Welds & 35X14.5 SSR's Grants Pass, OR __________________ 67 Short Fleet 4x4 04 Honda CRF450R 89 Toyota 4-Runner 34 Ford 2 door sedan - Long term project ---------------------------------------------- There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"

03-31-2002, 04:41 AM	#6
O2Bsogood Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, Arkansas USA Posts: 599	I would take whatever legal action I could. At least your feedback is still alright. clmwenger*telus.net (55) Jan-31-02 22:40:23 PST 600508230 B Praise : Now this is a Quality Place to deal with!! People with both know how and class!! He proves he already got your check and says your a good person to deal with(which we all know). Don't let him get away with this. And thanks for the warning. Now he won't screw anybody else on this board atleast. At least I hope not. ------------------ Alma, AR 70' Chevy Shortwide Fleetside-bagged front and rear, 350/350 69' Chevelle 96' Camaro My Website __________________ 70' C-10 SWB 71' C-10 SWB 2001 Audi S4 1994 Ford F-150 1974 Gremlin 1959 Apache (Will be For Sale soon) 1972 Chevelle (Will also be For Sale soon)

03-31-2002, 04:49 AM	#7
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,879	GMC, i say you visit him and whip his a$s, i'll help you if its on a weekend ------------------ Mechanic @ California Concept Britney: 1970 2wd K/5 Blazer (Frame up) Jessica: 1967 2wd SWB (pops daily driver) Helga: 1972 4x4 3/4ton LWB (my daily driver) AIM:Alexmart1 Mountain View, Cali

03-31-2002, 09:36 AM	#8
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	Paul, let me know his name, phone and address details as best you can. I live up here in Canada and will do my best to give this guy a bad rep around where I live. Is this the same guy that screwed a fellow board member on a truck by misrepresenting the truck? Sounds like that guy near Calgary? Also maybe we should as a group let E-bay know that we don't appreciate being exposed to that kind of seller. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

03-31-2002, 10:32 AM	#9
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Whewwww! I almost bid on that grille! Good luck! ------------------ Current project: The "HACKstoration" 1967 GMC shortbed/fleetside, 350/700R4, air bag suspension, 18" billet wheels. Other vehicle of interest: 1957 Chevy Bel-Air 4dr hard top, 283/powerglide, lowered 3-1/2" in front and 2 inches in the rear. Web Site: jaySpot.com AOL Screen Name: Slammed67GMC Location: Kansas City, MO __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

03-31-2002, 11:00 AM	#10
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	You know, I would be more upset with the SCHMUCKS at 3-bay for not taking any action. In essence they are sanctioning his theft by not taking him off e-bay. He's a thief and the e-bay organization is allowing him to continue. THEY ARE WORSE!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ 72 Cheyenne, 350, 5spd, LWB, Super trim. 71 GMC JIMMY 4X4 --needs stuff-!

03-31-2002, 09:23 PM	#11
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	Thanks for the advise, Paul, I'll never bid on anything he's got for auction. ------------------ '72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84 ralleys and 31/10.5s 67 Cutlass convertible 330, 3spd stick 90 GMC Jimmy 350/auto Chad Stephens Orleans,NE __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

03-31-2002, 09:27 PM	#12
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	Hey Paul! Use ebay's message boards to bring attention to this guy. There are some ebay employees and users that watch those boards pretty closely, and some of them love to go after the "bad guys". Also sounds like this guy is using the postal service to commit fraud, and they don't like that! Keep us posted about this creep. People like him can be dealt with without going up there and kicking his butt, even though that's what he needs! ------------------[]'71 Cheyenne, 402BB[]Winfield, KS[] http://barn9.freeservers.com[] steer50@hotmail.com __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

03-31-2002, 09:39 PM	#13
REPO1 Shortbox wanna-be. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort St.John, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 773	Hey, I live just north of Calgary. Is that where he is? I'm up for a drive......... ------------------ Sylvan Lake, Alberta, Canada 1970 Chevy C20 Custom Camper #s matching 402BB Turbo 400 trans. Air conditioning, power steering, manual brakes. 73,600 Original Miles!! __________________ 1970 Chevy C20 Custom Camper 402BB Turbo 400 trans. (Slowly becoming a '70 shortbox 1/2 ton) '71 Camaro SS 402/T400 resto '97 Z28 (11.41@127MPH)



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