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sailed2japan · 03-22-2009, 12:58 AM

So, I've done it again. I've got way too dep into my ambition. It all started when I got a pm from padresag about a pair of doors and frames from a Stagecoach Conversions truck. Then it got emphasized when I found a 64 big window SWB for $400 on craigslist. Now I'm building my dream truck. Unfortunately I think the build will turn into a nighmare. However, here's the build plan:

Drivetrain:
Cummins 4bt
Holset HY35W Turbo
+40hp injectors
Modded injection pump
Power at about 200hp/450ft.lb
Dodge NV4500 5 speed manual w/ od
Dana 60 w/ 3.54 posi

Body/frame:
Front of 64 small window cab
Stageway rear doors and frames
Back of big window cab
short wide bed
60-61 or 63 grill
frame will be built out of 2 frames. The front half of one will be cut behind the cab and the other will be cut behind the cab. The two "halves" will be joined using a tongue and grove type joint and then boxed.

Other:
first will be built w/ drop spindles and 4" rear drop coils, eventualy I'l be able to afford air ride, then it'll be as low as it will go W/o notching (I just don't like Notches)
8 lugs all around
83 front discs
thick front sway bar

Soo what do you all think?

sailed2japan · 03-22-2009, 01:05 AM

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joe231 · 03-22-2009, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailed2japan

So, I've done it again. I've got way too dep into my ambition. It all started when I got a pm from padresag about a pair of doors and frames from a Stagecoach Conversions truck. Then it got emphasized when I found a 64 big window SWB for $400 on craigslist. Now I'm building my dream truck. Unfortunately I think the build will turn into a nighmare. However, here's the build plan:

Drivetrain:
Cummins 4bt
Holset HY35W Turbo
+40hp injectors
Modded injection pump
Power at about 200hp/450ft.lb
Dodge NV4500 5 speed manual w/ od
Dana 60 w/ 3.54 posi

Body/frame:
Front of 64 small window cab
Stageway rear doors and frames
Back of big window cab
short wide bed
60-61 or 63 grill
frame will be built out of 2 frames. The front half of one will be cut behind the cab and the other will be cut behind the cab. The two "halves" will be joined using a tongue and grove type joint and then boxed.

Other:
first will be built w/ drop spindles and 4" rear drop coils, eventualy I'l be able to afford air ride, then it'll be as low as it will go W/o notching (I just don't like Notches)
8 lugs all around
83 front discs
thick front sway bar

Soo what do you all think?

guessing this is a typo??
wouldn't accomplish anything

sounds very cool
I can't wait for progress

justcuz · 03-22-2009, 01:19 AM

From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?

padresag · 03-22-2009, 10:29 AM

[QUOTE=justcuz;3211498]From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?[/QUOTE

they were out of an ambulance
ron

sailed2japan · 03-22-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justcuz

From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?

All 4 doors will function, I may also put in some one peice windows. The 4bt will have plenty of torque for the gear set and od. I actually chose to use the D60 for the available gears.

NV4500 gear ratios:
First Gear 5.61
Second Gear 3.04
Third Gear 1.67
Fourth Gear 1.00
Fifth Gear 0.73
Reverse 5.04

So with the low first gear the 3.54 gears are a good match. Plus for optimum efficiency on the highway I want to be at about 1800-2100 rpm.

protrash64 · 03-22-2009, 01:26 PM

Sounds cool to me!!!! Cant wait to see what it all looks like. Sounds like you better stock up on some sawzall blades

.....post some pics as you make progress.

sailed2japan · 03-22-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

guessing this is a typo??
wouldn't accomplish anything

sounds very cool
I can't wait for progress

OOPS!
One behind, One in front.......Drunk posting, it happens

**Captainfab** · 03-22-2009, 01:11 AM

Sounds like you've got a plan

And looks like you have enough parts too. Having the Stageway doors and frames should take a lot of the headache out of it. Keep us up to date with pics

YOLO · 03-22-2009, 10:45 AM

good luck. keep us posted with progress pics

64c20crewcab · 03-22-2009, 04:27 PM

Dude, Sounz way kewl! Good luck with this!

72BlckButy · 03-22-2009, 04:41 PM

OMG... this is going to be sick!

Best of luck on the build!

66Gilbert · 03-22-2009, 06:23 PM

Can't wait to see this project get off the ground. Crew Cabs old and new are the hot trend for this era.

Dinos63 · 03-22-2009, 06:44 PM

killer !you got plenty of parts and looks like a nice big window s/b

get rockin dude!

sailed2japan · 03-22-2009, 08:22 PM

Thanks for all the encouragement guys. I can't wait to get this thing together. I've always had a thing for doing something different. I think I've found it in this build. I'm also stretching the limits of my abilities. I have never doen anything even close to this. Don't get me wrong, I bought my first car (73 Valiant) in a junkyard, worked on it for a weekend and drove it home sunday night, so I can fix thngs. However, I've never built a frame, or a cab, or done alot of body work, but I guess there's always got to be a first time!

Now I think my plan of attack is going to be to build the cab first and then build the frame so that the cab fits on it. Any suggestions?

**Captainfab** · 03-23-2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailed2japan

However, I've never built a frame, or a cab, or done alot of body work, but I guess there's always got to be a first time!

Now I think my plan of attack is going to be to build the cab first and then build the frame so that the cab fits on it. Any suggestions?

That sounds like a good idea....cab first. Since you've never built a frame or much body work, have you done much welding before? Welding frames are a lot different than sheetmetal. Not to discourage you, but if you aren't totally sure of your welding abilities on a frame, don't be afraid to seek a little help from a professional. It would suck to have a frame come apart going down the road. If I was closer I would give you a hand.

joe231 · 03-25-2009, 09:53 AM

YOUR CATS CAN WELD!!!

sailed2japan · 03-25-2009, 11:22 PM

No, but they can be welded!

66Z71 · 03-25-2009, 11:32 PM

kewl. I wanna see this one done. You have a huge headstart on ghe crewcab part. Do you have any pics of the inside of the sides, or any that show just how they reworked the doors. Where did they cut, how did they piece it together?
Eric

sailed2japan · 05-26-2009, 04:53 AM

Well, I've spent a long time getting nothing done on this. I'm waiting for my spot to open up at the auto shop on base. Once I'm in there I'll be getting at it hot and heavy. Until then I'm just going to collect my "Junk" until my old lady threatens to kill me in my sleep.

**Captainfab** · 05-26-2009, 11:39 PM

Cool.....I'll be right here waiting.......

sams60gmc · 05-27-2009, 12:27 AM

Sounds like a killer build man! Can't wait to see some progress pics!!!

Blue666 · 05-27-2009, 08:21 PM

Sounds like a killer plan for a killer project. I'll watch for up dates.

Have you considered possibly making a 1964 version of the Avalanche?

Blue666

sailed2japan · 08-04-2009, 03:51 PM

As you can tell I am WAY behind on getting this build together. I was wondering if there is anybody who would like to help me get this thing together. I'm looking for someone who knows what they're doing and would like to make a little extra money on the side. I don't have any idea what this would cost so if you're interested let me know.

sailed2japan · 03-25-2009, 11:54 PM

from what padresag has told me they are the same size as normal, but have a differentwindow frame. I'll see exactly here shortly when I have them in hand.

03-22-2009, 12:58 AM	#1
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power So, I've done it again. I've got way too dep into my ambition. It all started when I got a pm from padresag about a pair of doors and frames from a Stagecoach Conversions truck. Then it got emphasized when I found a 64 big window SWB for $400 on craigslist. Now I'm building my dream truck. Unfortunately I think the build will turn into a nighmare. However, here's the build plan: Drivetrain: Cummins 4bt Holset HY35W Turbo +40hp injectors Modded injection pump Power at about 200hp/450ft.lb Dodge NV4500 5 speed manual w/ od Dana 60 w/ 3.54 posi Body/frame: Front of 64 small window cab Stageway rear doors and frames Back of big window cab short wide bed 60-61 or 63 grill frame will be built out of 2 frames. The front half of one will be cut behind the cab and the other will be cut behind the cab. The two "halves" will be joined using a tongue and grove type joint and then boxed. Other: first will be built w/ drop spindles and 4" rear drop coils, eventualy I'l be able to afford air ride, then it'll be as low as it will go W/o notching (I just don't like Notches) 8 lugs all around 83 front discs thick front sway bar Soo what do you all think? Attached Images __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

03-22-2009, 01:05 AM	#2
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power More Pics: Attached Images __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR Last edited by sailed2japan; 03-22-2009 at 01:08 AM.

03-22-2009, 01:19 AM	#4
justcuz Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, Ca. Posts: 930	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?

03-22-2009, 10:29 AM	#5
padresag Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sidney,b.c. Posts: 4,425	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power [QUOTE=justcuz;3211498]From the look of the fender in back this one was a Suburban. All 4 doors will function on this build then correct? You figure the diesel has the torque to deliver the motive power with 3.54 gears plus od in the transmission?[/QUOTE they were out of an ambulance ron

03-22-2009, 01:26 PM	#7
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03-22-2009, 01:11 AM	#9
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,246	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Sounds like you've got a plan And looks like you have enough parts too. Having the Stageway doors and frames should take a lot of the headache out of it. Keep us up to date with pics __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

03-22-2009, 10:45 AM	#10
YOLO Custom Truck Lover! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 440	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power good luck. keep us posted with progress pics

03-22-2009, 04:27 PM	#11
64c20crewcab Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North SD County Posts: 631	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Dude, Sounz way kewl! Good luck with this! __________________ ..............................._________ ......___________//___[[___{\ _____ ...../__(_(O)_)___/____/____/_(O)_/ 1964 C20 Long Stepside 3 Door Crew Cab - Armbruster-Stageway Conversion Y2K INDN Chief "ONE OF A KIND, NOT ONE OF THE CROWD" Aug 2010 - Front end frame cleanup & engine swap done!!! June 2011 - Rear end bagged Sept 2011 - Rebuild motor top end Sept 2012 - Parked and slowly working on it. Aug 2013 - Front end bagged - finally! Aug 2014 - Stepside swap conversion done. Finally ready to start bodywork! Have a few KEWL ideas... Here is my build thread: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=335427

03-22-2009, 04:41 PM	#12
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power OMG... this is going to be sick! Best of luck on the build! __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

03-22-2009, 06:23 PM	#13
66Gilbert 1966 Crew Cab & 4X4 Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 904	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Can't wait to see this project get off the ground. Crew Cabs old and new are the hot trend for this era.

03-22-2009, 06:44 PM	#14
Dinos63 chevy only Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,619	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power killer !you got plenty of parts and looks like a nice big window s/b get rockin dude! __________________ CHEVY ONLY... Nothin Else !

03-22-2009, 08:22 PM	#15
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Thanks for all the encouragement guys. I can't wait to get this thing together. I've always had a thing for doing something different. I think I've found it in this build. I'm also stretching the limits of my abilities. I have never doen anything even close to this. Don't get me wrong, I bought my first car (73 Valiant) in a junkyard, worked on it for a weekend and drove it home sunday night, so I can fix thngs. However, I've never built a frame, or a cab, or done alot of body work, but I guess there's always got to be a first time! Now I think my plan of attack is going to be to build the cab first and then build the frame so that the cab fits on it. Any suggestions? __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

03-25-2009, 09:53 AM	#17
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03-25-2009, 11:22 PM	#18
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power No, but they can be welded! __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

03-25-2009, 11:32 PM	#19
66Z71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukie, Oregon Posts: 204	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power kewl. I wanna see this one done. You have a huge headstart on ghe crewcab part. Do you have any pics of the inside of the sides, or any that show just how they reworked the doors. Where did they cut, how did they piece it together? Eric



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05-26-2009, 04:53 AM	#20
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Well, I've spent a long time getting nothing done on this. I'm waiting for my spot to open up at the auto shop on base. Once I'm in there I'll be getting at it hot and heavy. Until then I'm just going to collect my "Junk" until my old lady threatens to kill me in my sleep. __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

05-26-2009, 11:39 PM	#21
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,246	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Cool.....I'll be right here waiting....... __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

05-27-2009, 12:27 AM	#22
sams60gmc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver Washington Posts: 726	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Sounds like a killer build man! Can't wait to see some progress pics!!! __________________ 1960 GMC short fleet, full frame build... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=329718

05-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#23
Blue666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Andrews, NC Posts: 194	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power Sounds like a killer plan for a killer project. I'll watch for up dates. Have you considered possibly making a 1964 version of the Avalanche? Blue666

08-04-2009, 03:51 PM	#24
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power As you can tell I am WAY behind on getting this build together. I was wondering if there is anybody who would like to help me get this thing together. I'm looking for someone who knows what they're doing and would like to make a little extra money on the side. I don't have any idea what this would cost so if you're interested let me know. __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

03-25-2009, 11:54 PM	#25
sailed2japan Jonny Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Outside the Box, Austin,TX Posts: 741	Re: And so it begins 64 Crewcab SWB Build w/ Cummins Power from what padresag has told me they are the same size as normal, but have a differentwindow frame. I'll see exactly here shortly when I have them in hand. __________________ 1966 C30, Cummins, stacks, and a flat bed in progress... "Honor.....simply put, A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one time in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including his life.' That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it." -AEC Hundley USNR

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