Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Binker · 03-19-2013, 12:39 AM

Hi I want to keep the truck manual but make the steering wheel ez to turn. Just wondering if anyone has or knows if there is a larger ratio steering box that will fit in my barn fresh.... I've seem many people get a upgraded tighter steering box but i want to go the other way... maby some thing from a tractor or ????... This might have to custom any one who does this sor of thing.

SS Tim · 03-19-2013, 07:54 AM

It all boils down to effort vs turns. The easier a box is to turn the more you turn it. Nothing wrong with a stock 24:1 box and I sure would not go a slower ratio yet. The single biggest "trick" is to remember to have the truck in motion when you are turning the wheel. If you are affecting the effective steering ratio with huge tires or incorrect offsets going for a "look", the consider a power steering coversion.

bobs409 · 03-19-2013, 02:29 PM

A larger steering wheel would accompish it.

Binker · 03-19-2013, 02:32 PM

Thanks for the info, so the stock steering box is 24:1 ratio. I have bigger tires turning while moving no problem but I would still like a steering bos with a larger ratio. Why would it be so bad to drive with a larger ratio?

Binker · 03-19-2013, 02:34 PM

Larger steering wheel

It's allready huge oem one.

PanelDeland · 03-19-2013, 09:39 PM

If you go to a ratio to lower the steering effort,you will have to crank the wheel more revolutions for the same amount of turn at the wheels.This would slow your steering response time.

SS Tim · 03-20-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

If you go to a ratio to lower the steering effort,you will have to crank the wheel more revolutions for the same amount of turn at the wheels.This would slow your steering response time.

That pretty much sums it up. Slower box or a bigger than the stock 17 x 17 1/2" oval steering wheel is going to take more turns or motion to perform the same task. If you think the stock wheel is too big you really need to consider adding P/S. A 292 is a heavy engine and a four-speed or A/C make it more so. Depending on your current front wheel and tire selection some improvement "might" be possible while keeping "big" wheels.

Mr Handy · 03-20-2013, 08:32 PM

I think I would die if I had slower turning in my truck... and mine as a replaced box to help get rid of the play... not sure of the ratio... I'm also riding on stock rims and don't plan to change. it took a few miles tog et used to the manual steering, but I am perfectly fine with the effort required to steer, and have been considering a slightly smaller steering wheel when I replace my cracked to heck original.

RichardJ · 03-21-2013, 01:54 AM

Slower than already slow steering? Larger than already too big of a steering wheel?
Those are both ridiculous solutions to an already cumbersome steering.

Power steering is a night and day improvement and you will only wonder why you didn't do it sooner. After the P steering, the next night/day improvement I made to my truck was AC.

It's already about 6 turns lock to lock if I recall. If you increased it more than that, it would look like you were wrestling a bear in the cab. To parallel park, you would be required by law to set out orange cones. Ha, ha.
I'd rather enjoy my old truck than arm wrestle it.

Joking aside, it's your truck, so what ever makes you happy.

03-19-2013, 12:39 AM	#1
Binker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Gladstone, Oregon Posts: 8	Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 Hi I want to keep the truck manual but make the steering wheel ez to turn. Just wondering if anyone has or knows if there is a larger ratio steering box that will fit in my barn fresh.... I've seem many people get a upgraded tighter steering box but i want to go the other way... maby some thing from a tractor or ????... This might have to custom any one who does this sor of thing.

03-19-2013, 07:54 AM	#2
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 It all boils down to effort vs turns. The easier a box is to turn the more you turn it. Nothing wrong with a stock 24:1 box and I sure would not go a slower ratio yet. The single biggest "trick" is to remember to have the truck in motion when you are turning the wheel. If you are affecting the effective steering ratio with huge tires or incorrect offsets going for a "look", the consider a power steering coversion. __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

03-19-2013, 02:29 PM	#3
bobs409 1969 Custom 30 wrecker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pottsville, Pa Posts: 2,611	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 A larger steering wheel would accompish it. __________________ Bob 63 Impala 283/PG/3.36 (under restoration) 66 Impala 327/PG/3.36 66 Chevelle SS 409/M22/3.55 69 Chevelle 307/PG/3.08 (future restoration) 69 C10 short stepside 454/TH350/3.73 69 Custom 30 tow truck 350/4 spd/4.10 (resto done, CRUISIN TIME!) 71 Cheyenne 20 fleetside 350/4 spd/4.10 71 Chevelle 6/PG/3.08 72 Chevelle 454/M21/4.10

03-19-2013, 02:32 PM	#4
Binker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Gladstone, Oregon Posts: 8	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 Thanks for the info, so the stock steering box is 24:1 ratio. I have bigger tires turning while moving no problem but I would still like a steering bos with a larger ratio. Why would it be so bad to drive with a larger ratio?

03-19-2013, 02:34 PM	#5
Binker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Gladstone, Oregon Posts: 8	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 Larger steering wheel It's allready huge oem one.

03-19-2013, 09:39 PM	#6
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 If you go to a ratio to lower the steering effort,you will have to crank the wheel more revolutions for the same amount of turn at the wheels.This would slow your steering response time. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

03-20-2013, 08:32 PM	#8
Mr Handy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Spring Hill, Florida Posts: 465	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 I think I would die if I had slower turning in my truck... and mine as a replaced box to help get rid of the play... not sure of the ratio... I'm also riding on stock rims and don't plan to change. it took a few miles tog et used to the manual steering, but I am perfectly fine with the effort required to steer, and have been considering a slightly smaller steering wheel when I replace my cracked to heck original.

03-21-2013, 01:54 AM	#9
RichardJ Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,422	Re: Diffrent Manual steering box work with a c 10 1970 292 Slower than already slow steering? Larger than already too big of a steering wheel? Those are both ridiculous solutions to an already cumbersome steering. Power steering is a night and day improvement and you will only wonder why you didn't do it sooner. After the P steering, the next night/day improvement I made to my truck was AC. It's already about 6 turns lock to lock if I recall. If you increased it more than that, it would look like you were wrestling a bear in the cab. To parallel park, you would be required by law to set out orange cones. Ha, ha. I'd rather enjoy my old truck than arm wrestle it. Joking aside, it's your truck, so what ever makes you happy. __________________ '67 GMC 2500, 292, 4spd, AC



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