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Vince M · 10-10-2002, 09:11 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1866541547

Let me know what you Guys/Gals think of this one. It's close to home so I think I'm going to take a look at it in person. Something seems fishy with the winning bidder though...He/she hails from the same home town...might be the same person for all I know.

jostrans68 · 10-10-2002, 10:03 PM

the bidder has won alot of auctions from the buyer looks a little fishy too me...

Hutch · 10-10-2002, 10:05 PM

From the VIN it appears to be originally a inline six.
No air, Manual drum Brakes, No p/s,No chrome looks like everything that could have been painted (resale)red was.

If it is close to your home have a look.

If someone you know bids on your item then it is like you never sold it.

hjalbert · 10-10-2002, 10:29 PM

i wouldnt trust that guy, out of three of the ebay ids i ran down, three were all from hsi town, i didnt read the auctions, but i bet they are all the same guy, or one of his buddies trying ot bid it up. screw him!

toms68cst · 10-10-2002, 10:45 PM

It looks kinda like shill bidding to me. Both the high bidder and seller have feedback for each other's auctions. It's hard to tell for sure. It sure looks suspicious on a higher-priced item.

We had a similar auction get posted on here a few months ago. That was more obvious shill bidding. Someone notified ebay about it and they said they started an investigation. I checked to see if that same seller was still doing business on ebay a month or so after that and he still was.

It's hard to say what's under that cheap paint-job. The only thing that truck has going for it is the SW Bed.

stllookn · 10-10-2002, 11:28 PM

Something smells...let his buddies buy it and then he can continue to pay the commission...go have a look though. I'll bet it is tired and the replacement engine probably has 100k on it too! Check the compression if you are serious about it.

Spoof · 10-10-2002, 11:45 PM

But it has the split window option!

70c10 · 10-11-2002, 11:50 AM

I just saw that auction. How do you know where the bidders live?

toms68cst · 10-11-2002, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spoof
But it has the split window option!

LOL, He must mean the sliding rear window. That's REALLY rare in 68! (As in not available from the factory)

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-11-2002, 01:31 PM

"engine rebuilt 25k ago", sure doesnt look like it to me, engine looks pretty dirty and old.

*Randy70C-10* · 10-11-2002, 02:07 PM

Look close, everything is red including the door jam rubber. Under the hood hasn't been touched. Looks like a "paint quickly and sell".

**COBALT** · 10-11-2002, 02:53 PM

Yeah, looks like he got some hardware to throw on there (mirrors), and painted the crap out of it. Engine looks like the '80 350 in my truck when I got it. Never rebuilt just pulled out of another truck and dropped in.

Terrible interior shot. I can't tell anything by that photo. Beware.

jostrans68 · 10-11-2002, 04:28 PM

Did Any one else notice the overspray of white on the front and back? didnt even remove bumpers? beware.........................

SWINGSAX68 · 10-11-2002, 05:19 PM

Well....if you take a close look at the seat belt, it is red as well. Looks like a rattle can spray job on the entire vehicle. there is a lot of overspray. The back top corners of the firewall (behind the hood hinges) Doesn't look like 'minor' body rust....looks like straight up rusty 30+year old add on air vents.
I did notice that the door seals are red too. I would take a good personal look at it before buying. the moter mount on the drivers side looks to be missing bolts. Looks like a superb hack job on the engine bay wireing. Its your call hom-bre!!!
If you are close, take a good look.

toms68cst · 10-11-2002, 05:33 PM

I wonder why the trim around the rear lights are the later 69-72 style? There are speaker holes in the doors too.

I just love ripping apart ebay auctions that are way too "glowing" in their description.

**COBALT** · 10-11-2002, 05:47 PM

Hmm...yeah, the more I look at the pics the more I DON'T like it. You have to be suspicious of someone who uses 14 ga. wire nuts to splice circuits together. There's also lots of circuits that have been destroyed. Check out my detective work:

toms68cst · 10-11-2002, 06:01 PM

LOL, What's wrong with using wire nuts on a truck????

That engine bay is scary. It almost looks like there was a fire or something at one time. All that black spray paint on the firewall really dogs it down.

Look at the passenger side picture. The bed panels look pretty wavy like there's bondo on them or something.

If that were a long bed it would be about a $300-$500 truck around here even with the "rebuilt" engine.

Vince M · 10-11-2002, 07:32 PM

Well you guys found a few things that I didn't see but not many...thanks for all the input. I have an appointment to see the truck on Saturday. I'm not too concerned about the wiring and all the overspray and stuff. I have bigger plans for the truck. If the body and the frame look good then I will consider it. I'm going to mention to him about the shill bidding and I did report it to eBay. No response yet. First I'll see what the truck looks like though.
I will be putting a different cab and running gear on the truck..all I need is a good frame, title, bed, and that good looking front end.

toms68cst · 10-11-2002, 07:44 PM

I hope it's better than it looks in the pictures Vince. It's really hard to tell using only internet pictures. Let us know what your impression is when you see it in person. If it's been a Florida truck all its life it could be more solid than it appears.

treefrog · 10-11-2002, 08:13 PM

Just my $ 0.02, but i'd be very careful on this one. I've been burned on similar ads. TF

mikep · 10-11-2002, 09:22 PM

If you are actually looking to buy it I wouldnt really mention the reporting it to Ebay thing to him. Maybe that you saw it on ebay but telling him you narked him out is just likely to piss him off and thats always the basis of a poor car buying experience . JMHO.

Longhorn Man · 10-12-2002, 12:17 AM

Rust holes in the fire wall over the fuse box harness, cut wires off fuse box, alt on wrong side of engine, cut and tape wires from battery, fuel line all twisted in an odd way...
looks liek a hack job to me. Kinda like mine!

mikep · 10-12-2002, 12:25 AM

Look at it this way . If it was originally a 6 cyl truck then the motor placement would be back farther then original so going with the long water pump and accesories would be a good idea to bring the fan back to the proper position. I had to do it to get the fan into my shroud because of the motor being set back in big block position.

Other than that his paint job looks like crap and whats up with that engine compartment paint. Good God!

Longhorn Man · 10-12-2002, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikep
... If it was originally a 6 cyl truck then the motor placement would be back farther then original...

Actually, it looks like that was done properly. It is in the right location.

wHATANERD · 03-15-2003, 12:34 AM

You just have to be careful, I was lucky enough to find a solid 1969 on EBAY, I sent several Emails to the seller, and had a good idea what to expect before making the purchase, In fact after seeing the truck It was better than what I expected. The only thing I had to do was replace the tires, and do a brake job and she was good to go, attached is a picture from the Ebay Auction.

10-10-2002, 09:11 PM	#1
Vince M Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,076	Opinions on eBay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1866541547 Let me know what you Guys/Gals think of this one. It's close to home so I think I'm going to take a look at it in person. Something seems fishy with the winning bidder though...He/she hails from the same home town...might be the same person for all I know. __________________ ............................................................ 68 Chevy CST SWB w/LS1, carb & 700r4. Golden Anniversary clone with a few improvements.

10-10-2002, 10:03 PM	#2
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	the bidder has won alot of auctions from the buyer looks a little fishy too me... __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado

10-10-2002, 10:05 PM	#3
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	From the VIN it appears to be originally a inline six. No air, Manual drum Brakes, No p/s,No chrome looks like everything that could have been painted (resale)red was. If it is close to your home have a look. If someone you know bids on your item then it is like you never sold it. __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

10-10-2002, 10:29 PM	#4
hjalbert cracker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 1,021	i wouldnt trust that guy, out of three of the ebay ids i ran down, three were all from hsi town, i didnt read the auctions, but i bet they are all the same guy, or one of his buddies trying ot bid it up. screw him! __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Harry John Albert III located in Phoenix, AZ 1972 GMC JIMMY, 1969 lwb Chevy Frame, 1999 bmw k1200 ltc 1992 Kawasaki concours 1991 bmw k75 1973 cortez motorhome

10-10-2002, 10:45 PM	#5
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,293	It looks kinda like shill bidding to me. Both the high bidder and seller have feedback for each other's auctions. It's hard to tell for sure. It sure looks suspicious on a higher-priced item. We had a similar auction get posted on here a few months ago. That was more obvious shill bidding. Someone notified ebay about it and they said they started an investigation. I checked to see if that same seller was still doing business on ebay a month or so after that and he still was. It's hard to say what's under that cheap paint-job. The only thing that truck has going for it is the SW Bed. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

10-10-2002, 11:28 PM	#6
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Something smells...let his buddies buy it and then he can continue to pay the commission...go have a look though. I'll bet it is tired and the replacement engine probably has 100k on it too! Check the compression if you are serious about it. __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

10-10-2002, 11:45 PM	#7
Spoof Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Victoria,BC, Canada Posts: 1,300	But it has the split window option! __________________ 71 GMC 1500 LWB

10-11-2002, 11:50 AM	#8
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	I just saw that auction. How do you know where the bidders live? __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

10-11-2002, 01:31 PM	#10
Dropt72Shortbed Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Huntington Beach CA Posts: 678	"engine rebuilt 25k ago", sure doesnt look like it to me, engine looks pretty dirty and old.

10-11-2002, 02:07 PM	#11
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Look close, everything is red including the door jam rubber. Under the hood hasn't been touched. Looks like a "paint quickly and sell".

10-11-2002, 02:53 PM	#12
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	Yeah, looks like he got some hardware to throw on there (mirrors), and painted the crap out of it. Engine looks like the '80 350 in my truck when I got it. Never rebuilt just pulled out of another truck and dropped in. Terrible interior shot. I can't tell anything by that photo. Beware. __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

10-11-2002, 04:28 PM	#13
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	Did Any one else notice the overspray of white on the front and back? didnt even remove bumpers? beware......................... __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado

10-11-2002, 05:19 PM	#14
SWINGSAX68 Now the others dig........ Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,520	Hmmmm Well....if you take a close look at the seat belt, it is red as well. Looks like a rattle can spray job on the entire vehicle. there is a lot of overspray. The back top corners of the firewall (behind the hood hinges) Doesn't look like 'minor' body rust....looks like straight up rusty 30+year old add on air vents. I did notice that the door seals are red too. I would take a good personal look at it before buying. the moter mount on the drivers side looks to be missing bolts. Looks like a superb hack job on the engine bay wireing. Its your call hom-bre!!! If you are close, take a good look. __________________ 68 Chevy C10 Stepside Black Primer 78 GMC Longbed White 09 Chevy Silverado Shortbed Granite Blue *LOOKING FOR A 67 4 DOOR IMPALA!!!Just like Sam and Dean Winchester!! 'Cause Mustangs are for p^#$ and you can fit a body in the trunk of a 67 Impala* MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Bachelor of Music in Jazz Studies Texas State University-San Marcos, TX Certified Music Educator I hope Mom is up there watching and being my Guardian Angel "I've got a fever.....and the only prescription.....IS MORE COW BELL" -The Legendary: Bruce Dickenson "F#$@ 'em up!!!!!!" -The Legendary: Rogelio Escobar TRUCKY LINKS** http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=457750 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=461184 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=472848 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=417541 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=477788

10-11-2002, 05:33 PM	#15
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,293	I wonder why the trim around the rear lights are the later 69-72 style? There are speaker holes in the doors too. I just love ripping apart ebay auctions that are way too "glowing" in their description. Last edited by toms68cst; 10-11-2002 at 05:55 PM.

10-11-2002, 05:47 PM	#16
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	Hmm...yeah, the more I look at the pics the more I DON'T like it. You have to be suspicious of someone who uses 14 ga. wire nuts to splice circuits together. There's also lots of circuits that have been destroyed. Check out my detective work: Attached Images __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA. Last edited by COBALT; 10-11-2002 at 05:53 PM.



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10-11-2002, 06:01 PM	#17
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,293	LOL, What's wrong with using wire nuts on a truck???? That engine bay is scary. It almost looks like there was a fire or something at one time. All that black spray paint on the firewall really dogs it down. Look at the passenger side picture. The bed panels look pretty wavy like there's bondo on them or something. If that were a long bed it would be about a $300-$500 truck around here even with the "rebuilt" engine. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

10-11-2002, 07:32 PM	#18
Vince M Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,076	Well you guys found a few things that I didn't see but not many...thanks for all the input. I have an appointment to see the truck on Saturday. I'm not too concerned about the wiring and all the overspray and stuff. I have bigger plans for the truck. If the body and the frame look good then I will consider it. I'm going to mention to him about the shill bidding and I did report it to eBay. No response yet. First I'll see what the truck looks like though. I will be putting a different cab and running gear on the truck..all I need is a good frame, title, bed, and that good looking front end. __________________ ............................................................ 68 Chevy CST SWB w/LS1, carb & 700r4. Golden Anniversary clone with a few improvements.

10-11-2002, 07:44 PM	#19
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,293	I hope it's better than it looks in the pictures Vince. It's really hard to tell using only internet pictures. Let us know what your impression is when you see it in person. If it's been a Florida truck all its life it could be more solid than it appears. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

10-11-2002, 08:13 PM	#20
treefrog Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Posts: 189	Just my $ 0.02, but i'd be very careful on this one. I've been burned on similar ads. TF

10-11-2002, 09:22 PM	#21
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	If you are actually looking to buy it I wouldnt really mention the reporting it to Ebay thing to him. Maybe that you saw it on ebay but telling him you narked him out is just likely to piss him off and thats always the basis of a poor car buying experience . JMHO. __________________ No truck :-(

10-12-2002, 12:17 AM	#22
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Rust holes in the fire wall over the fuse box harness, cut wires off fuse box, alt on wrong side of engine, cut and tape wires from battery, fuel line all twisted in an odd way... looks liek a hack job to me. Kinda like mine!

10-12-2002, 12:25 AM	#23
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	Look at it this way . If it was originally a 6 cyl truck then the motor placement would be back farther then original so going with the long water pump and accesories would be a good idea to bring the fan back to the proper position. I had to do it to get the fan into my shroud because of the motor being set back in big block position. Other than that his paint job looks like crap and whats up with that engine compartment paint. Good God! __________________ No truck :-(

03-15-2003, 12:34 AM	#25
wHATANERD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uvalde, Tx Posts: 407	Not all EBAY trucks are bad You just have to be careful, I was lucky enough to find a solid 1969 on EBAY, I sent several Emails to the seller, and had a good idea what to expect before making the purchase, In fact after seeing the truck It was better than what I expected. The only thing I had to do was replace the tires, and do a brake job and she was good to go, attached is a picture from the Ebay Auction. Attached Images __________________ 1969 C/10 Longbed undergoing rebuild. Old Chevy's Never Die, They Just Rust Around The Edges

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