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navybear70 · 09-13-2005, 02:53 AM

Forgive the multiple posts, but I really wanted to make sure this got out. I just decided to switch my lowered springs for a buddie's stock ones. (His rear's were almost brand new!

) We ended up needing to remove my bed for access and found a plethera of bad juju!
1. All four coil spring mounting plates(stud brackets) are almost useless
2. three spring mounting bolts snapped
3. left shock bolts(upper and lower) trashed.
4. both axle ubolts too small, left one loose from humungous hole drilled in the axle plate
5. bushings gone on whatever-arm connected from frame to axle(I can't think right now)
6. no bed bolts(bed held down with four undersized generic bolts
7. all four front bed bolt mounting plates need replacing
8. both coil spring mounting plates(ones riveted to frame) are rusted away
9. most cross-members are too rusted to deal with.
9. and the grandaddy...the frame is rusted away on both sides where the spring mounting plates are! Even the support plates are useless. Some previous owner had a broken leaf spring bolted to the pass. side just to hold the coil spring in place!

O.K...now to business. Does anyone sell any of these things; or have some lying around that aren't being used? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

In His service,
Wes Pamplin

cableguy0 · 09-13-2005, 02:57 AM

almost every single thing you named is available at www.gmcpauls.com. the bar with the rubber bushings is the track bar and a brand new bar with bushings installed is only 35 bucks. the springs cups are 8 bucks a piece i believe.

navybear70 · 09-13-2005, 03:06 AM

Is Paul a member here?

cableguy0 · 09-13-2005, 03:08 AM

yea he is. hes one of the main sponsors of our board thats why i mentioned him.

navybear70 · 09-13-2005, 03:26 AM

That site is awesome! You (and Paul) da man!

BTW...Thank you.

cableguy0 · 09-13-2005, 03:30 AM

no problem good luck it sounds like you got a good sized mess on your hands

stllookn · 09-13-2005, 10:04 AM

Check the rest of the frame. If the PO or before used the truck to tow a boat and backed it into salt water frequently....there may be more corrosion. You might want to consider a new frame...just a thought. Frames are easy to come by on this board. I have one for free but it is geographically undesireable...LOL!

navybear70 · 09-13-2005, 11:42 AM

stllookin, thanks for the advice, but the frame is pretty sound otherwise. The truck was a Northern truck that was displaced down South. I know that the guy before the guy I bought it from bought it from a dealership in Virginia.(Didga catch all that?

) So the rust underneath is extensive on the body and wherever salt could get caught up(like the spring mounts apparently...

) The truck looks good from outside, just don't crawl underneath.

Never fear though, I have a possible 1969 donor stepside in the works.

stllookn · 09-13-2005, 12:54 PM

Cool! I loaned my truck to "friend" and he used it to launch and recover his sailboat from salt water several times. When I crawled under the truck a year later...I could see how far he backed it into the water from the corrosion line on the frame and underside of the box! I sold the truck becuase I knew what was coming!!!!!

*bisquik65* · 09-13-2005, 01:01 PM

I replied to your post of the parts board...

navybear70 · 09-13-2005, 02:06 PM

PICS POSTED! see new thread. Thanks all!

09-13-2005, 02:53 AM	#1
navybear70 hometown heroes! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 487	found much bad juju under bed, need help! Forgive the multiple posts, but I really wanted to make sure this got out. I just decided to switch my lowered springs for a buddie's stock ones. (His rear's were almost brand new! ) We ended up needing to remove my bed for access and found a plethera of bad juju! 1. All four coil spring mounting plates(stud brackets) are almost useless 2. three spring mounting bolts snapped 3. left shock bolts(upper and lower) trashed. 4. both axle ubolts too small, left one loose from humungous hole drilled in the axle plate 5. bushings gone on whatever-arm connected from frame to axle(I can't think right now) 6. no bed bolts(bed held down with four undersized generic bolts 7. all four front bed bolt mounting plates need replacing 8. both coil spring mounting plates(ones riveted to frame) are rusted away 9. most cross-members are too rusted to deal with. 9. and the grandaddy...the frame is rusted away on both sides where the spring mounting plates are! Even the support plates are useless. Some previous owner had a broken leaf spring bolted to the pass. side just to hold the coil spring in place! O.K...now to business. Does anyone sell any of these things; or have some lying around that aren't being used? Any info would be greatly appreciated. In His service, Wes Pamplin __________________ 2009 Silverado 2wd, 121k as of 04APR13. I love my truck 29 days out of the month. The payment is due on the 30th... Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. -Robert E. Lee "Never give up ground you've already taken." -Unknown

09-13-2005, 02:57 AM	#2
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	almost every single thing you named is available at www.gmcpauls.com. the bar with the rubber bushings is the track bar and a brand new bar with bushings installed is only 35 bucks. the springs cups are 8 bucks a piece i believe. __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

09-13-2005, 03:06 AM	#3
navybear70 hometown heroes! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 487	Is Paul a member here? __________________ 2009 Silverado 2wd, 121k as of 04APR13. I love my truck 29 days out of the month. The payment is due on the 30th... Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. -Robert E. Lee "Never give up ground you've already taken." -Unknown

09-13-2005, 03:08 AM	#4
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	yea he is. hes one of the main sponsors of our board thats why i mentioned him. __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

09-13-2005, 03:26 AM	#5
navybear70 hometown heroes! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 487	That site is awesome! You (and Paul) da man! BTW...Thank you. __________________ 2009 Silverado 2wd, 121k as of 04APR13. I love my truck 29 days out of the month. The payment is due on the 30th... Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. -Robert E. Lee "Never give up ground you've already taken." -Unknown

09-13-2005, 03:30 AM	#6
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	no problem good luck it sounds like you got a good sized mess on your hands __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

09-13-2005, 10:04 AM	#7
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Check the rest of the frame. If the PO or before used the truck to tow a boat and backed it into salt water frequently....there may be more corrosion. You might want to consider a new frame...just a thought. Frames are easy to come by on this board. I have one for free but it is geographically undesireable...LOL! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

09-13-2005, 11:42 AM	#8
navybear70 hometown heroes! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 487	stllookin, thanks for the advice, but the frame is pretty sound otherwise. The truck was a Northern truck that was displaced down South. I know that the guy before the guy I bought it from bought it from a dealership in Virginia.(Didga catch all that? ) So the rust underneath is extensive on the body and wherever salt could get caught up(like the spring mounts apparently... ) The truck looks good from outside, just don't crawl underneath. Never fear though, I have a possible 1969 donor stepside in the works. __________________ 2009 Silverado 2wd, 121k as of 04APR13. I love my truck 29 days out of the month. The payment is due on the 30th... Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. -Robert E. Lee "Never give up ground you've already taken." -Unknown

09-13-2005, 12:54 PM	#9
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Cool! I loaned my truck to "friend" and he used it to launch and recover his sailboat from salt water several times. When I crawled under the truck a year later...I could see how far he backed it into the water from the corrosion line on the frame and underside of the box! I sold the truck becuase I knew what was coming!!!!! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

09-13-2005, 01:01 PM	#10
bisquik65 Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.C. high country Posts: 6,107	I replied to your post of the parts board...

09-13-2005, 02:06 PM	#11
navybear70 hometown heroes! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 487	PICS POSTED! see new thread. Thanks all! __________________ 2009 Silverado 2wd, 121k as of 04APR13. I love my truck 29 days out of the month. The payment is due on the 30th... Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. -Robert E. Lee "Never give up ground you've already taken." -Unknown



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