67 ram assist steering pic needed - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**67sss** · 11-13-2011, 04:57 PM

I am looking for someone who can post a pic of the correct pulley's needed for ram assist on a 67. Here's what I have, a it doesn't line up correctly. Do I need a long or short water pump, and which crank pulleys will I need? Don't know which side the alternator belongs on either. I plan on running hooker ceramic coated headers, but not set in stone on that. I have a set of stock exhaust manifolds I could use. Here's a link to the engine I"ll be using.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=492584

**70cst** · 11-13-2011, 06:04 PM

Here is a bump for you ...

nds1968 · 11-13-2011, 07:34 PM

See if these pics help http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...teering+pulley

**67sss** · 11-13-2011, 07:46 PM

I've seen that post before, thanks! I'm trying to figure out if that's a short or long water pump.

Livrat · 11-13-2011, 08:07 PM

From your pictures you have a long water pump with matching pulleys, to use the 67 pump and ps brackets you have pictured you will need a short water pump with matching pulleys and brackets, in the factory configuration the alternator goes on the drivers side,
In order to use a 67/68 alternator bracket you will need the same year drivers side exhaust manifold, but you can use the 69-72 alternator brackets that bolt to the head.

trapperjack · 11-13-2011, 08:16 PM

Mine was a 283, now a 350. If needed, I can get some pics for you tomorrow afternoon, but not sure if it's "correct", though it works fine.

michael bustamante · 11-13-2011, 08:27 PM

I just sold a ram set up. Send me youe e mail and ill send you my pics
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**67sss** · 11-13-2011, 09:24 PM

thanks for the info guys. short water pump I'll get and go from there.

Livrat · 11-13-2011, 09:56 PM

I have all the pulleys and brackets you need to make it work, either factory correct for 67/68 or using the 69-72 styles.
Would make you a great deal if I don't have to ship anything and I am always up for trading

**67sss** · 11-13-2011, 10:30 PM

well I think I ran into a problem. I took a short water pump I had and it won't cause it hits the aluminum timing cover. Is there more than 1 type of short water pump?

**LockDoc** · 11-13-2011, 11:30 PM

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My '68 CST with a 327 has the ram assist on it. I can take some pictures in the morning.

LockDoc

Livrat · 11-13-2011, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67sss

well I think I ran into a problem. I took a short water pump I had and it won't cause it hits the aluminum timing cover. Is there more than 1 type of short water pump?

As far as I know there is only one short water pump.

Here is a picture of the 67/68 pulleys and brackets

vectorit · 11-13-2011, 11:45 PM

some pics I had saved.

**67sss** · 11-14-2011, 12:40 AM

LockDoc- that would be great thanks.

Livrat-let me see if I can fix the water pump problem first, and then go from there.

vectorit-thanks for the pics

wondering if there's a pulley for a long water pump that would make this setup work? My 67 frame doesn't have the indentation for a different ps box, so I need to make this work some how.

**LockDoc** · 11-14-2011, 08:43 PM

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I tried to take the pictures from different angles. Let me know if you need any others. If you want bigger pics PM me your e-mail addy.

LockDoc

**67sss** · 11-19-2011, 04:01 PM

LockDoc- the short water pump in ur pic is different than the one I have. Will you please measure the distance from the back of the pump to the block for me, when you have time. My pump only has 1 water neck on the side and ur's has 1 on the top and 1 on the side.

Thanks!

GASoline71 · 11-19-2011, 04:24 PM

It's the same... just covered with crud. All short water pumps are the same. He's just using the coolant passage on the top of the pump, where most applications will have it blocked off.

Gary

**LockDoc** · 11-19-2011, 05:18 PM

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Gary is right. There are only two water pumps, long and short. All longs are the same and all shorts are the same. Maybe if you get into the custom ones for racing there would be a difference.

LockDoc

Lippyp · 11-20-2011, 08:20 AM

This is the short waterpump off my 67 (belive its a '69 engine) when I had it apart recently. My 67 has the later power steering setup on it although when I got it nothing lined up properly and I ended up fitting a used pump, brackets and pulley setup as it was a collection of badly bodged together parts. Unfortunately all the work I put in cleaning up and painting the damn pump recently was a total waste of time as when I put it back on and filled it up the damn thing now leaks, must have been all the oily crud keeping it watertight, the bearings now noisy too so I have a brand new airtex pump waiting on a coat of paint and then I'll replace it. My truck has an aftermarket (rusty!) chrome timing cover and it clears it just fine, maybe the aluminium cover you have is taller than a standard one and only fits under a long pump. Hope the pictures help

11-13-2011, 04:57 PM	#1
67sss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA.. Posts: 2,322	67 ram assist steering pic needed I am looking for someone who can post a pic of the correct pulley's needed for ram assist on a 67. Here's what I have, a it doesn't line up correctly. Do I need a long or short water pump, and which crank pulleys will I need? Don't know which side the alternator belongs on either. I plan on running hooker ceramic coated headers, but not set in stone on that. I have a set of stock exhaust manifolds I could use. Here's a link to the engine I"ll be using. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=492584 Attached Images

11-13-2011, 06:04 PM	#2
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed Here is a bump for you ... __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

11-13-2011, 07:34 PM	#3
nds1968 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,694	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed See if these pics help http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...teering+pulley __________________ Nate 1967 short fleet Project Blue Goose 'If it don't bounce back... heeheehee you go hungry!" Blues Brothers

11-13-2011, 07:46 PM	#4
67sss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA.. Posts: 2,322	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed I've seen that post before, thanks! I'm trying to figure out if that's a short or long water pump.

11-13-2011, 08:07 PM	#5
Livrat Member #1049 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Troy Montana Posts: 3,940	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed From your pictures you have a long water pump with matching pulleys, to use the 67 pump and ps brackets you have pictured you will need a short water pump with matching pulleys and brackets, in the factory configuration the alternator goes on the drivers side, In order to use a 67/68 alternator bracket you will need the same year drivers side exhaust manifold, but you can use the 69-72 alternator brackets that bolt to the head.

11-13-2011, 08:16 PM	#6
trapperjack Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 361	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed Mine was a 283, now a 350. If needed, I can get some pics for you tomorrow afternoon, but not sure if it's "correct", though it works fine. __________________ 1962 Chevy K10 factory 4x4 stepside longbed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=494632 1967 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed (Henrietta) traded 1968 Chevy 1/2 ton panel wagon, V8 and powerglide http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=483345 1978 Ford F250, beater stepside 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 Door 2010 Chevy 4x4 plain jane work truck

11-13-2011, 08:27 PM	#7
michael bustamante Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,841	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed I just sold a ram set up. Send me youe e mail and ill send you my pics Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1967custom

11-13-2011, 09:24 PM	#8
67sss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA.. Posts: 2,322	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed thanks for the info guys. short water pump I'll get and go from there.

11-13-2011, 09:56 PM	#9
Livrat Member #1049 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Troy Montana Posts: 3,940	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed I have all the pulleys and brackets you need to make it work, either factory correct for 67/68 or using the 69-72 styles. Would make you a great deal if I don't have to ship anything and I am always up for trading

11-13-2011, 10:30 PM	#10
67sss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA.. Posts: 2,322	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed well I think I ran into a problem. I took a short water pump I had and it won't cause it hits the aluminum timing cover. Is there more than 1 type of short water pump? Attached Images

11-13-2011, 11:30 PM	#11
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,390	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed - My '68 CST with a 327 has the ram assist on it. I can take some pictures in the morning. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

11-13-2011, 11:45 PM	#13
vectorit What? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,617	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed some pics I had saved. Attached Images __________________ Chris 1968 K20 Suburban 1972 K10 LWB PU

11-14-2011, 12:40 AM	#14
67sss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA.. Posts: 2,322	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed LockDoc- that would be great thanks. Livrat-let me see if I can fix the water pump problem first, and then go from there. vectorit-thanks for the pics wondering if there's a pulley for a long water pump that would make this setup work? My 67 frame doesn't have the indentation for a different ps box, so I need to make this work some how.

11-14-2011, 08:43 PM	#15
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,390	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed - I tried to take the pictures from different angles. Let me know if you need any others. If you want bigger pics PM me your e-mail addy. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

11-19-2011, 04:01 PM	#16
67sss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA.. Posts: 2,322	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed LockDoc- the short water pump in ur pic is different than the one I have. Will you please measure the distance from the back of the pump to the block for me, when you have time. My pump only has 1 water neck on the side and ur's has 1 on the top and 1 on the side. Thanks!



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11-19-2011, 05:18 PM	#18
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,390	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed - Gary is right. There are only two water pumps, long and short. All longs are the same and all shorts are the same. Maybe if you get into the custom ones for racing there would be a difference. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

11-20-2011, 08:20 AM	#19
Lippyp English Chevy Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shropshire, UK/ Lot, France Posts: 1,848	Re: 67 ram assist steering pic needed This is the short waterpump off my 67 (belive its a '69 engine) when I had it apart recently. My 67 has the later power steering setup on it although when I got it nothing lined up properly and I ended up fitting a used pump, brackets and pulley setup as it was a collection of badly bodged together parts. Unfortunately all the work I put in cleaning up and painting the damn pump recently was a total waste of time as when I put it back on and filled it up the damn thing now leaks, must have been all the oily crud keeping it watertight, the bearings now noisy too so I have a brand new airtex pump waiting on a coat of paint and then I'll replace it. My truck has an aftermarket (rusty!) chrome timing cover and it clears it just fine, maybe the aluminium cover you have is taller than a standard one and only fits under a long pump. Hope the pictures help __________________ Phil '67 C10 long fleet. 350/TH350, 4 bbl Carter, K&N, Dual exhaust, loads of stuff coming soon 2001 S10 Blazer Daily Driver, bone stock 4 door 4x4 with manual transmission

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