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Old 06-30-2009, 08:07 PM   #1
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Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

Hey fella's, I am already lowered 8 in the rear with a static drop.. I have a standard style c notch already installed.(Similur to a cpp) It looks like I have about 3-4 more inches to go before I will bottom out. I am wanting to bag the rear for now, but I am having a hard time envisioning how low it will sit. I know that it will not lay frame or anything but I am wondering if its worth the money and the hassle to go through with all the work for 3 more inches.

I will bag the front eventually but for now I am just gonna stick with the rear. I don't plan on putting a super c or any major frame work in the rear.. I plan on putting the bags in place of the springs.. Any pics of your work or If you have pics of your truck while aired down please let me take a look.. Stepside pics would be awesome too.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:13 PM   #2
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

how did you get it the 8 inches with static. looks like a block and coils right? I am about to do mine I like the stance of yours

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how did you get it the 8 inches with static. looks like a block and coils right? I am about to do mine I like the stance of yours
Yeah 5 inch drop coils and 3 inch blocks. But its still not low enough..
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:32 PM   #4
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

I understand that. if you take the coils out and see how it sits on the bumps. if it isn't low enough do a bigger c-notch
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:25 PM   #5
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

Here is mine a 65 Shory. It is bagged with a CPP notch in the rear and a set of thier 2 inch blocks. The front is still stock spindels and arms so it has a little lower rear. Hope this helps.





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onebad65c10, is that watts link a kit? If so, where'd you get it?
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I like it.

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Here is mine a 65 Shory. It is bagged with a CPP notch in the rear and a set of thier 2 inch blocks. The front is still stock spindels and arms so it has a little lower rear. Hope this helps.





Is that top pic with the air out of your bags? What kinda of bags do you have?
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onebad65c10, is that watts link a kit? If so, where'd you get it?
Yea it is a watts link. I got it from KP Kompnets. Here is a link to the install.






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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

Yea daverod the truck is laid out in the first pic. I am using Firestone 2500's up front and 2600's in the rear.
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

When you let the air out does the axle sit on the notch or does the bag stop it from hitting. I was thinking about putting my bags in back of the axle? What the advantage of a watts link?

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When you let the air out does the axle sit on the notch or does the bag stop it from hitting. I was thinking about putting my bags in back of the axle? What the advantage of a watts link?
The axle bottoms out on the bumpstop. Of course the bs is only a quarter of an inch. The advantages of a Watts link is that through the whole range of motion the rear doesnt move like it does with the panard bar. I think it moves less than a quarter of an inch. With the rally wheels on the rear I dont have and problem with rubbing.
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Awesome, thanks for the link.
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

I guess I'm kinda slow I still don't get the watts link. I get it now. I'm on mountain time, we run about 2mins slower then elsewhere.

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I guess I'm kinda slow I still don't get the watts link.
Let me see if I can explain this. The pivot point is mounted to the center of the rear differental. At the top and bottom are opposing but equal length arms that connect to the frame rails. When the truck is at ride height the bars are parrael to the ground. When the rear suspension cycles up and down the center pivot point will twist right and left to keep the rear centered under the truck. What this does is stop the arch of movement associated with the use of a panard bar. This stoppes the rear from being pushed to one side or the other.
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Let me see if I can explain this. The pivot point is mounted to the center of the rear differental. At the top and bottom are opposing but equal length arms that connect to the frame rails. When the truck is at ride height the bars are parrael to the ground. When the rear suspension cycles up and down the center pivot point will twist right and left to keep the rear centered under the truck. What this does is stop the arch of movement associated with the use of a panard bar. This stoppes the rear from being pushed to one side or the other.
Ah, side to side motion. For some reason I was thing up and down. Thank you Told ya I was slow.

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bird7263, what size wheels you running?
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

Looks like someone has got the sickness and is ready for some more projects, huh?
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I do have the sickness. I just need to see pics or build threads to get a better ideas.. You got an ideas or threads in mind?
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Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics???

As far as bagging goes, its always cool to look over the suspension section. There always seems to be someone hacking the s--- out of a truck or frame.....I think on the 67-72 section they have 'builds' up at the top as stickies. I dont know if you cruize the whole site or not....

What other things are you thinking? You only asked about bag hite on this thread. You mite search grumpy's threads. He had one awhile back with a bunch of traditional styled rides.

I also have to give props to onebad65c10's ride...I dig it.
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I'm feeling kinda sick. Kinda like dragging a$$. Going to check out some builds.
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When you let the air out does the axle sit on the notch or does the bag stop it from hitting. I was thinking about putting my bags in back of the axle? What the advantage of a watts link?
I'm no Pro at this at all; but if you put the bags behind the axle you are going to hamper the lift ratio correct?. The further you put your bags from the fulcrum the less they will lift. You'd be at a 1\.8 or something.
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I'm no Pro at this at all; but if you put the bags behind the axle you are going to hamper the lift ratio correct?. The further you put your bags from the fulcrum the less they will lift. You'd be at a 1\.8 or something.
That's true. The closer to the pivot point the higher the lift.
Here's some pictures of the different types of air bag jobs I did. Not all are 60 to 72 though. But you can get an ideas from them.

This is a custom made triangle 4 link set up. No need for a Watts Link here. Got lots of lift, and no side movement.


This one is a behind axle. Sometimes you have no other place to put the bags. If you don't have a big notch this is a good way to go.


This is KP Components 12" travel cantilever link system. Here's there link.
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This is up

This is down. Laying frame.



This one I made the notch high enough not to cut into the bed. It almost lay frame when 20's were installed.


Here's that truck done.


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