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stllookn · 02-02-2005, 03:19 PM

Anybody running Hedman headers part no. 69090? They are the long tube small block headers. I am wondering how far they hang down below the frame. I think I might be lowered too far to make them work.

stllookn · 02-02-2005, 09:21 PM

Anyone running Hedmans?

thisolechevy · 02-02-2005, 10:09 PM

yes I have the Hedman long tube headers on my 327, as far as ground clearance goes I wasnt to worried because mine is 4-wheel drive. But looking at them now I'd say they only hang down 3-4 inches maybe more. I dont know if it was something I did but after having them on my truck for 2 years and keeping them clean the passanger side one has a hole about the size of a pencil rusted through on it (And I do mean clean I owna auto detail business) my friend claims I rubbed the hole in it from washing them too much..he he lol. But performance and sound wise...A+...great stuff they are!

72 CustomCamper · 02-02-2005, 10:22 PM

I have Headmans on my truck, but I doubt if I can help. My truck has a big block in it...

Chuck

gmc67swb · 02-02-2005, 10:24 PM

Got Hedmans on mine. Not sure of the part #. They've been on the truck since about '85. I can't complain. Not one single problem with the headers. Well they didn't clear the clutch linkage perfectly but we got it to work.

LUV2XCLR8 · 02-02-2005, 11:02 PM

NOT 2 HIJACK, BUT I AM ALSO CONSIDERING HEDMANS, HAS ANYONE EVER
USED THE STYLE LIKE BELOW IN THE PIC (FROM ANY MANUFACTURE) BEST
FRIEND RUNS A MUFFLER SHOP & HE SAID THE ONES WITH THE BALL TYPE
FLANGES DON'T LEAK, ALSO CONSIDERING SHORTY'S SINCE IT'S A 4X4

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...69648&x=18&y=8

KTLX · 02-02-2005, 11:16 PM

I am running Headman long tube headers on my 70, 2wd swb fleetside, 327. I have a 4 speed grannie trannie, everything cleared nicely, my truck is a 2"/4" drop. The headers hang down quite a bit, I have 4" clearance from the ground to the collector. So far, no issues, however, has not been tested over those annoying speed bumps.

stllookn · 02-02-2005, 11:51 PM

My truck is probably dropped too much for these then since I have only about 8.5 inches of clearance now with just the springs and want it lower. With 2.5 spindles (about the right drop) I will only have 6 inches from the frame to the ground. That will not leave much room. I suppose that I could run higher with bags and it might be fine.

KTLX, thisole, and gmc...does the entire collector hang below the frame?

Thanks guys!

Deuce · 02-02-2005, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8

NOT 2 HIJACK, BUT I AM ALSO CONSIDERING HEDMANS, HAS ANYONE EVER
USED THE STYLE LIKE BELOW IN THE PIC (FROM ANY MANUFACTURE) BEST
FRIEND RUNS A MUFFLER SHOP & HE SAID THE ONES WITH THE BALL TYPE
FLANGES DON'T LEAK, ALSO CONSIDERING SHORTY'S SINCE IT'S A 4X4

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...69648&x=18&y=8

I bought that exact same set of headers except I didn't get them coated because I need to weld in a O2 bung for the TPI. They were recomended by a friend that owns a muffler shop too.

mac · 02-03-2005, 01:05 AM

I've got 69096's on my bagged '67. Its the same header as the 90's but HPC'd. With 2 1/2" spindles and a coil cut that left me with 3 " of clearance and they dragged on EVERYTHING. So .... I bagged it. Now I can clear when I need to and GOLOW when I want to.

Mac
Blackbaggedshaved '67 ZZ4

stllookn · 02-03-2005, 03:25 AM

mac, Thanks...that is just what I wanted to hear. I had them on a '77 but we slammed it and went to the Dynomax Chevelle shorty headers to get ground clearance and I could not remember how long they were. Lost tons of torque with that move and regretted it. I can't pass up the new Hedmans in the original box for $40! Whooo hoooo!

dion · 02-03-2005, 12:18 PM

I have Headmans on mine, not sure of the part number though. Here's a side pic, you can see they don't hang down too much.

gmc67swb · 02-03-2005, 08:37 PM

gonna try to post a side view of mine

69 longhorn · 02-03-2005, 09:48 PM

for a full lenght set that works with a dropped truck, go Hooker comp. i run the 2452's (painted ) on my longhorn....they hang 2" below the rails

69L

LUV2XCLR8 · 02-03-2005, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce

I bought that exact same set of headers except I didn't get them coated because I need to weld in a O2 bung for the TPI. They were recomended by a friend that owns a muffler shop too.

WELL, DO THEY

stllookn · 02-04-2005, 01:56 AM

I already told the guy to ship them...LOL! I just could not turn down new headers in the box for $40! I am dropped about 4 inches in front now and I have clearance. When I go to the 2.5 inch drop spindles and bags they will still not hit before the lower control arms so that is fine by me. If I ever decide to lay frame I will just put them on the work truck and go with a set of Dynomax Chevelle shorties I guess. I just hate to lose the torque you get with the long tube headers. But a truck laying frame is not built for performance anyway.

Just the opinion of an old bottom feeder trying to build a hot rod out my piggy bank!

moodybo · 02-04-2005, 06:24 AM

I have a set for my inline 250 and they hang down way too much! Heddman could have done a better job in the engineering department!

KTLX · 02-06-2005, 06:51 PM

Answer to your question, the top of the collector is right at the bottom of the frame, so yes they hang down past the frame. I used a S-collector from Headman which raised the pipe even with the frame and tuck the pipes away. 2.5" with flowmasters mounted below the bed, sounds good.

68jimmy · 02-06-2005, 07:18 PM

Not sure of the p/n but they are Hedman with the newer style collector.

stllookn · 02-06-2005, 10:01 PM

KTLX and 68jimmy...thanks...that is just what I needed. They arrived and are ready for whatever truck I decide to put them on now. I may end up with a stock height truck for yard hauling so they will work fine there...or on the bagged truck...we will see. I just could not pass up that deal.

02-02-2005, 03:19 PM	#1
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Hedman Hedders Anybody running Hedman headers part no. 69090? They are the long tube small block headers. I am wondering how far they hang down below the frame. I think I might be lowered too far to make them work. __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

02-02-2005, 09:21 PM	#2
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Anyone running Hedmans? __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

02-02-2005, 10:09 PM	#3
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	yes I have the Hedman long tube headers on my 327, as far as ground clearance goes I wasnt to worried because mine is 4-wheel drive. But looking at them now I'd say they only hang down 3-4 inches maybe more. I dont know if it was something I did but after having them on my truck for 2 years and keeping them clean the passanger side one has a hole about the size of a pencil rusted through on it (And I do mean clean I owna auto detail business) my friend claims I rubbed the hole in it from washing them too much..he he lol. But performance and sound wise...A+...great stuff they are! __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!!

02-02-2005, 10:22 PM	#4
72 CustomCamper huh ??? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fredericksburg,Va. Posts: 3,369	I have Headmans on my truck, but I doubt if I can help. My truck has a big block in it... Chuck __________________ 90 Blazer Silverado 350w/ 700R4 and 32" Kelly's "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running try to keep up!"

02-02-2005, 10:24 PM	#5
gmc67swb Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mesquite, Tx Posts: 396	Got Hedmans on mine. Not sure of the part #. They've been on the truck since about '85. I can't complain. Not one single problem with the headers. Well they didn't clear the clutch linkage perfectly but we got it to work. __________________ GM 330HP/350, Magnuson 122HH, Tremec TKO 5spd

02-02-2005, 11:02 PM	#6
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,477	NOT 2 HIJACK, BUT I AM ALSO CONSIDERING HEDMANS, HAS ANYONE EVER USED THE STYLE LIKE BELOW IN THE PIC (FROM ANY MANUFACTURE) BEST FRIEND RUNS A MUFFLER SHOP & HE SAID THE ONES WITH THE BALL TYPE FLANGES DON'T LEAK, ALSO CONSIDERING SHORTY'S SINCE IT'S A 4X4 http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...69648&x=18&y=8 __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T Last edited by LUV2XCLR8; 02-02-2005 at 11:06 PM.

02-02-2005, 11:16 PM	#7
KTLX Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 71	I am running Headman long tube headers on my 70, 2wd swb fleetside, 327. I have a 4 speed grannie trannie, everything cleared nicely, my truck is a 2"/4" drop. The headers hang down quite a bit, I have 4" clearance from the ground to the collector. So far, no issues, however, has not been tested over those annoying speed bumps. __________________ Kenny

02-02-2005, 11:51 PM	#8
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	My truck is probably dropped too much for these then since I have only about 8.5 inches of clearance now with just the springs and want it lower. With 2.5 spindles (about the right drop) I will only have 6 inches from the frame to the ground. That will not leave much room. I suppose that I could run higher with bags and it might be fine. KTLX, thisole, and gmc...does the entire collector hang below the frame? Thanks guys! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

02-03-2005, 01:05 AM	#10
mac Active Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 166	I've got 69096's on my bagged '67. Its the same header as the 90's but HPC'd. With 2 1/2" spindles and a coil cut that left me with 3 " of clearance and they dragged on EVERYTHING. So .... I bagged it. Now I can clear when I need to and GOLOW when I want to. Mac Blackbaggedshaved '67 ZZ4 Last edited by mac; 02-03-2005 at 01:08 AM. Reason: spelling

02-03-2005, 03:25 AM	#11
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	mac, Thanks...that is just what I wanted to hear. I had them on a '77 but we slammed it and went to the Dynomax Chevelle shorty headers to get ground clearance and I could not remember how long they were. Lost tons of torque with that move and regretted it. I can't pass up the new Hedmans in the original box for $40! Whooo hoooo! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

02-03-2005, 12:18 PM	#12
dion 72 Cheyenne Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,086	I have Headmans on mine, not sure of the part number though. Here's a side pic, you can see they don't hang down too much. Attached Images __________________ Burnout Idle 1972Cheyenne 1966/67Stouts

02-03-2005, 08:37 PM	#13
gmc67swb Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mesquite, Tx Posts: 396	gonna try to post a side view of mine Attached Images __________________ GM 330HP/350, Magnuson 122HH, Tremec TKO 5spd

02-03-2005, 09:48 PM	#14
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	for a full lenght set that works with a dropped truck, go Hooker comp. i run the 2452's (painted ) on my longhorn....they hang 2" below the rails 69L

02-04-2005, 01:56 AM	#16
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	I already told the guy to ship them...LOL! I just could not turn down new headers in the box for $40! I am dropped about 4 inches in front now and I have clearance. When I go to the 2.5 inch drop spindles and bags they will still not hit before the lower control arms so that is fine by me. If I ever decide to lay frame I will just put them on the work truck and go with a set of Dynomax Chevelle shorties I guess. I just hate to lose the torque you get with the long tube headers. But a truck laying frame is not built for performance anyway. Just the opinion of an old bottom feeder trying to build a hot rod out my piggy bank! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

02-04-2005, 06:24 AM	#17
moodybo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 261	I have a set for my inline 250 and they hang down way too much! Heddman could have done a better job in the engineering department!



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02-06-2005, 06:51 PM	#18
KTLX Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 71	Answer to your question, the top of the collector is right at the bottom of the frame, so yes they hang down past the frame. I used a S-collector from Headman which raised the pipe even with the frame and tuck the pipes away. 2.5" with flowmasters mounted below the bed, sounds good. __________________ Kenny

02-06-2005, 07:18 PM	#19
68jimmy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: albuquerque Posts: 431	Not sure of the p/n but they are Hedman with the newer style collector. Attached Images __________________ 78 C10 LWB Super Cheyenne Last edited by 68jimmy; 02-06-2005 at 07:19 PM. Reason: add picture

02-06-2005, 10:01 PM	#20
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	KTLX and 68jimmy...thanks...that is just what I needed. They arrived and are ready for whatever truck I decide to put them on now. I may end up with a stock height truck for yard hauling so they will work fine there...or on the bagged truck...we will see. I just could not pass up that deal. __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

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