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crazy4chevs · 10-17-2003, 01:18 PM

What bags do you run and why? what do you recomend?

68 with coil rear (will be a driver)

ucmydust68 · 10-18-2003, 07:17 PM

slam bags rs82's and i dont know why. sounds cool, dont know how they perform yet all i have is a frame finished

crazy4chevs · 10-19-2003, 12:56 AM

cool; anybody else.

SCOTI · 10-19-2003, 12:56 AM

My 68 is dropped 5/7 & I use firestone 2600# on the rear. Use them for their adjustability so I could have it as low as I wanted & still be able to pull my trailer. They've worked w/o any probs for 3+ years now. I got everything through AirRide.

phantom dually · 10-19-2003, 01:04 PM

2600 firestone at all 4 corners.

Physh1 · 10-19-2003, 02:17 PM

The slam bags are good....they7 are more of a bag for hopping though so if your on a budget there is no reason to buy them when firestones will be perfectly fine for a driver. Most of the time a sleeve bag will be betetr out back for the ride. Double convoluted bags (like firestone 26c's) are very common for the front.

f9000 sleeve bag....used on many ART 4 link systems...

F6957 double convoluted...good front bag.

I'd think you could use the 2600 out back too sicne it sounds like a few of these guys are running them but the ride is usually a bit more bouncy with that bag versus a sleeve bag. The slam bags are usually 2x the price as firestones because they are stronger since it's a hopping bag.

Cameron

crazy4chevs · 10-19-2003, 03:25 PM

Great, thanks for all the replies. This is for a suburban so i think it should be ok with the firestone 2600 bags at all 4 corners.

Any opinions on this setup?

What size inlet should i go with 3/8 , 1/2 or?

single or double inlet?

SCOTI · 10-19-2003, 07:07 PM

Inlet/airline sizing really depends on your intentions. Since your looking @ something for a burb, the smaller airline/port sizes will work fine. The bigger dia line will give you a faster rise/lower time, but the smaller stuff gets the job done (think convection oven vs. a microwave.... both are faster than a standard oven, but some people want it to be faster).

AirRide recommends the smaller 2400# dbl convoluted bags for the rear of 67-72's but I chose to use the 2600# dbl convoluted bags because I knew I would be pulling an 18ft car hauler. When not towing the trailer I keep them @ 30psi & the ride is not 'bouncy'. Since your burb is bigger/heavier, the 2600# bags out back will work fine. I consider my ride quality to be comparable to a standard height swb truck (w/o the extra ground clearance

).

One more thing, I would also recommend using lowering blocks if your looking for alot of drop (so you can get it low & still maintain a decent air psi @ ride height).

fastbagged68 · 10-20-2003, 01:19 PM

Slam bags are not that much more! For the RS series they are 89. each. For the way they ride it is worth it. They take less pressure to lift, they don't balloon out. They go up instead of out. They get about an inch more lift at the bag, so when you put it on your front end you get more then an inch lift. On my suburban I am running slams up front and easystreet extreme 2B7 in the rear.

crazy4chevs · 10-20-2003, 10:31 PM

fastbagged68

How is the ride quality in your burb?

Do you have a pic of the setup you are running?

Where is the place that you can get those bags for 89- do you have part #'s?

thanks for all the input guys. Lance

fastbagged68 · 10-21-2003, 12:02 PM

The suburban is all stock now. I am building a crossmember for it right now and will be dissassembling my suburban in a few weeks. As for getting slams for 89ea. You can get them from me for that price. I highly recommend them!

crazy4chevs · 10-21-2003, 12:17 PM

thanks fast, ill contact you when im closer to the actual swap.

sbrban · 10-21-2003, 11:18 PM

I've got the 2600's in my '71 burb all the way around with art big red valves and running 3/8 line. I'm very impressed with ride quality and handling. I don't know why you would use a lowering block on these if you have bags you get pretty low with just the bags.

sbrban · 10-21-2003, 11:28 PM

pic of burb...

crazy4chevs · 10-22-2003, 01:00 PM

What do you guys think of these bags?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...&category=33586

Izzy · 10-22-2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crazy4chevs
What do you guys think of these bags?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...&category=33586

Your link is missing the item #.

Physh1 · 10-22-2003, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveeightchevy

Your link is missing the item #.

Word

Link no good.....

Cameron

crazy4chevs · 10-22-2003, 07:09 PM

I hate that! Try this, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=33586&rd=1

Physh1 · 10-22-2003, 07:49 PM

welll....that looks like something shAIM sells. There is no logical reason IMO that you need a bag like that. No real reason you even need that kinda lift. That bag could really only be used for hopping or something....I def would not run that on a driver. I'd stick to normal firestones or slam bags. Most suspensions won't really take that kinda lift anyhow IMO....not without throwing some stuff off...especially out back....your suspension will max before that bag fully expands.

Cameron

FuelCellGuy · 10-22-2003, 09:32 PM

in conjunction with 2 1/2" dropped spindle.

SCOTI · 10-23-2003, 06:59 AM

Sbrban, even w/the 2600# bags bolted directly to my frame & top of the trailing arm, I needed 1.5" blocks to get mine sitting where I wanted. At ride height (& w/the blocks) I only use 30psi of air & you wouldn't want to use any less air psi as they recommend a 3" minimum bag height.

Izzy · 10-23-2003, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Physh1
welll....that looks like something shAIM sells. There is no logical reason IMO that you need a bag like that. No real reason you even need that kinda lift. That bag could really only be used for hopping or something....I def would not run that on a driver. I'd stick to normal firestones or slam bags. Most suspensions won't really take that kinda lift anyhow IMO....not without throwing some stuff off...especially out back....your suspension will max before that bag fully expands.

Cameron

Word. Plus you get that much lift up front and I'm betting your control arms will bottom out before you can get that lift. I got 8" or so of lift up front out of the 83 and that was more than pleny to untuck up to a 22.

Physh1 · 10-23-2003, 10:28 AM

Not to mention ball joint binding....

Cameron

nate68 · 10-23-2003, 10:51 AM

I want to do bags eventually. What rides the best? My interest in air ride is to improve the ride so that i can stand to drive it

crazy4chevs · 10-23-2003, 11:10 AM

I wouldnt of put somthing like that up front, I was just thinking more clearance for towing if I decided to in the future. I think it sounds like the firestone 2600 at all 4 corners is the way to go. This should be a little bouncy?, but I think a good compramise if I want to tow somtime down the road.

(you never know when you will need to tow somthing, and wish you would have made it so you can.)

Can I see some stance pics, and a quick suspension rundown and tire wheel size?

Example: pic, firstone 2600 all around , dropped spindles and 235-60-15 on 15x8's

Thanks,Lance

10-17-2003, 01:18 PM	#1
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	What bags do you run and why? What bags do you run and why? what do you recomend? 68 with coil rear (will be a driver) __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-19-2003, 12:56 AM	#3
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	cool; anybody else. __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-19-2003, 12:56 AM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,949	My 68 is dropped 5/7 & I use firestone 2600# on the rear. Use them for their adjustability so I could have it as low as I wanted & still be able to pull my trailer. They've worked w/o any probs for 3+ years now. I got everything through AirRide. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-19-2003, 01:04 PM	#5
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	2600 firestone at all 4 corners. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-19-2003, 02:17 PM	#6
Physh1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Davis, OK Posts: 66	The slam bags are good....they7 are more of a bag for hopping though so if your on a budget there is no reason to buy them when firestones will be perfectly fine for a driver. Most of the time a sleeve bag will be betetr out back for the ride. Double convoluted bags (like firestone 26c's) are very common for the front. f9000 sleeve bag....used on many ART 4 link systems... F6957 double convoluted...good front bag. I'd think you could use the 2600 out back too sicne it sounds like a few of these guys are running them but the ride is usually a bit more bouncy with that bag versus a sleeve bag. The slam bags are usually 2x the price as firestones because they are stronger since it's a hopping bag. Cameron __________________ Please visit http://www.WhosNextRacing.com & http://www.FSCustoms.com 2000 Chevy Crew Cab Dually, 1994 Chevy ECSB 4x4, & 1983 GMC Sierra Classic

10-18-2003, 07:17 PM	#2
ucmydust68 fuel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: belton mo Posts: 371	slam bags rs82's and i dont know why. sounds cool, dont know how they perform yet all i have is a frame finished

10-19-2003, 03:25 PM	#7
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	Great, thanks for all the replies. This is for a suburban so i think it should be ok with the firestone 2600 bags at all 4 corners. Any opinions on this setup? What size inlet should i go with 3/8 , 1/2 or? single or double inlet? __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-19-2003, 07:07 PM	#8
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,949	Inlet/airline sizing really depends on your intentions. Since your looking @ something for a burb, the smaller airline/port sizes will work fine. The bigger dia line will give you a faster rise/lower time, but the smaller stuff gets the job done (think convection oven vs. a microwave.... both are faster than a standard oven, but some people want it to be faster). AirRide recommends the smaller 2400# dbl convoluted bags for the rear of 67-72's but I chose to use the 2600# dbl convoluted bags because I knew I would be pulling an 18ft car hauler. When not towing the trailer I keep them @ 30psi & the ride is not 'bouncy'. Since your burb is bigger/heavier, the 2600# bags out back will work fine. I consider my ride quality to be comparable to a standard height swb truck (w/o the extra ground clearance ). One more thing, I would also recommend using lowering blocks if your looking for alot of drop (so you can get it low & still maintain a decent air psi @ ride height). __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-20-2003, 01:19 PM	#9
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Slam bags are not that much more! For the RS series they are 89. each. For the way they ride it is worth it. They take less pressure to lift, they don't balloon out. They go up instead of out. They get about an inch more lift at the bag, so when you put it on your front end you get more then an inch lift. On my suburban I am running slams up front and easystreet extreme 2B7 in the rear.

10-20-2003, 10:31 PM	#10
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	fastbagged68 How is the ride quality in your burb? Do you have a pic of the setup you are running? Where is the place that you can get those bags for 89- do you have part #'s? thanks for all the input guys. Lance __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-21-2003, 12:02 PM	#11
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	The suburban is all stock now. I am building a crossmember for it right now and will be dissassembling my suburban in a few weeks. As for getting slams for 89ea. You can get them from me for that price. I highly recommend them!

10-21-2003, 12:17 PM	#12
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	thanks fast, ill contact you when im closer to the actual swap. __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-21-2003, 11:18 PM	#13
sbrban Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 236	I've got the 2600's in my '71 burb all the way around with art big red valves and running 3/8 line. I'm very impressed with ride quality and handling. I don't know why you would use a lowering block on these if you have bags you get pretty low with just the bags. __________________ you never have too many suburbans....

10-21-2003, 11:28 PM	#14
sbrban Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 236	pic of burb... Attached Images __________________ you never have too many suburbans....

10-22-2003, 01:00 PM	#15
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	What do you guys think of these bags?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...&category=33586 __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .



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10-22-2003, 07:09 PM	#18
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	I hate that! Try this, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=33586&rd=1 __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

10-22-2003, 07:49 PM	#19
Physh1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Davis, OK Posts: 66	welll....that looks like something shAIM sells. There is no logical reason IMO that you need a bag like that. No real reason you even need that kinda lift. That bag could really only be used for hopping or something....I def would not run that on a driver. I'd stick to normal firestones or slam bags. Most suspensions won't really take that kinda lift anyhow IMO....not without throwing some stuff off...especially out back....your suspension will max before that bag fully expands. Cameron __________________ Please visit http://www.WhosNextRacing.com & http://www.FSCustoms.com 2000 Chevy Crew Cab Dually, 1994 Chevy ECSB 4x4, & 1983 GMC Sierra Classic

10-22-2003, 09:32 PM	#20
FuelCellGuy FUEL CELL GURU Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 993	F6957 front.... in conjunction with 2 1/2" dropped spindle. Attached Images

10-23-2003, 06:59 AM	#21
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,949	Sbrban, even w/the 2600# bags bolted directly to my frame & top of the trailing arm, I needed 1.5" blocks to get mine sitting where I wanted. At ride height (& w/the blocks) I only use 30psi of air & you wouldn't want to use any less air psi as they recommend a 3" minimum bag height. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-23-2003, 10:28 AM	#23
Physh1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Davis, OK Posts: 66	Not to mention ball joint binding.... Cameron __________________ Please visit http://www.WhosNextRacing.com & http://www.FSCustoms.com 2000 Chevy Crew Cab Dually, 1994 Chevy ECSB 4x4, & 1983 GMC Sierra Classic

10-23-2003, 10:51 AM	#24
nate68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: ca Posts: 1,110	I want to do bags eventually. What rides the best? My interest in air ride is to improve the ride so that i can stand to drive it __________________ 68 short step, 406/700r4, 9" w/discs.

10-23-2003, 11:10 AM	#25
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	I wouldnt of put somthing like that up front, I was just thinking more clearance for towing if I decided to in the future. I think it sounds like the firestone 2600 at all 4 corners is the way to go. This should be a little bouncy?, but I think a good compramise if I want to tow somtime down the road. (you never know when you will need to tow somthing, and wish you would have made it so you can.) Can I see some stance pics, and a quick suspension rundown and tire wheel size? Example: pic, firstone 2600 all around , dropped spindles and 235-60-15 on 15x8's Thanks,Lance __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

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