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Old 11-24-2012, 05:20 PM   #1
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1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

The conflicting info on this is crazy!!

I have searched disc diameter and the 1/2 ton is roughly 11 3/4 and the 3/4 is 12 1/2. Do any of the half ton backing plates work for the 3/4 ton swap?? Some say no some say yes. The calipers are the same p/n.

Peterson's did an article and said you can reuse the backing plates. I will link it below. My 77 has mint backing plates I would like to reuse if possible.

Any input would help

Link to one article claiming you can reuse the 1/2 stuff
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/howto/3084/photo_08.html
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:42 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

If you are talking about the front brake backing plates on D44’s or Corp 10 bolts, yes….you must replace the backing plates to the larger ¾ ton type as they are larger in diameter. The 6 lug ½ rotor is 11.86 in diameter while the 8 lug ¾ ton rotor is 12.5. You’re probably thinking of brake calipers as those you do not need to change. Both ½ ton & ¾ ton use the same calipers

This wouldn't be the first time the 4x4 rags have been wrong.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:58 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

Thanks. Love your rig btw.
after reading the size charts I thought there was no way it could work.

Does anyone know the GM part number?? Apparently you can still buy them new....
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:14 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

supposedly 3/4 ton calipers are different piston something or other this and that. dimensionally identical to each other.

i have seen half ton pads in a 3/4 ton caliper and 8 lug rotor did not fit. wider pads so they wouldnt slip over the 8 lug rotor. can not confirm if that was a manufacturer design difference or what. hearsay i suppose.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:58 PM   #5
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

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Does anyone know the GM part number?? Apparently you can still buy them new....
I don’t believe the backing plates are available anymore. Heck, I couldn’t even find them on the AC Delco, Napa Prolink or Dorman’s website

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supposedly 3/4 ton calipers are different piston something or other this and that. dimensionally identical to each other.

i have seen half ton pads in a 3/4 ton caliper and 8 lug rotor did not fit. wider pads so they wouldnt slip over the 8 lug rotor. can not confirm if that was a manufacturer design difference or what. hearsay i suppose.
Hearsay or something because the calipers and pads are the exact same part number between on the ½ ton and ¾ ton. The backing plate is different because it moves the caliper outwards a tad in order for the pads to line up with the larger diameter ¾ ton rotor.
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:16 PM   #6
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

Not to sidetrack but...

If both 1/2 T and 3/4T calipers are the same on dana 44's....

When doing a 14 bolt rear disk swap must I use all 3/4T? It sounds like on the rotors I would use 3/4 T to match the front. But the calipers for the rear could be dana 1/2 or 3/4 ton. Could I also use 10 bolt calipers?
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Not to sidetrack but...

If both 1/2 T and 3/4T calipers are the same on dana 44's....

When doing a 14 bolt rear disk swap must I use all 3/4T? It sounds like on the rotors I would use 3/4 T to match the front. But the calipers for the rear could be dana 1/2 or 3/4 ton. Could I also use 10 bolt calipers?
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Yes you can use 10 bolt calipers or Dana or 78 cadilac elderado calipers for the ebrake function. Who's brackets are you using? I am using diy4x.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:14 AM   #8
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

I have a set of ruff stuff specialties brackets. I have not put them on yet. I held a set of 10 bolt calipers up to them and they seemed to not line up. I will have to take another look. Only looking for dana 44 8 lug calipers limits my junk yard search immensely.

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Old 11-25-2012, 11:15 AM   #9
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

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I have a set of ruff stuff specialties brackets. I have not put them on yet. I held a set of 10 bolt calipers up to them and they seemed to not line up. I will have to take another look. Only looking for dana 44 8 lug calipers limits my junk yard search immensely.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...ry_Code=BoltOn
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I just get my 10 bolt calipers at Napa. They are less then 20 bucks a piece. As DirtyLarry mentioned the 10 bolt uses the same part number for calipers weather 3/4 or 1/2 ton. On there site it says u can use 73-87 3/4 ton calipers. After 77 gm used the 10 bolt so the calipers should fit. Also a guy in the reviews is using elderado calipers which are the same dimensional as the 10 bolts.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:51 AM   #10
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Re: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton backing plate??

Yeah, I wouldn't bother with junkyarding for brake calipers either. You still have to deal with things like rusted or plugged bleeders, boot tears, leaks, etc. Buy some from a local parts place.
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