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Big69C20 Toy · 05-06-2002, 09:19 PM

Alright i was doing the shocks on my truck today and first off what a great position for that top mount! busted a multi angle extension witha 1/2" driver. grr. That said i also noticed my turning stops are way too big i think. I've got 73 discs on this truck (69 c20) and it seems like i could shave probly an inch off the stops on the spindle. Anyone out there done this or say dont do it. I see no rubbing issues at all on the front or rear for at least like 4 inches or so. Will shaving those stops help my turning radius like i think it will?

Ok question 2 is i have the chance to buy a 70 something 350 4-bolt with a set of heads. The block he thinks is 40 over and has been sitting for about 15 years. Both items are off a 70's van so he said the heads are probly just smoggers. He also said possibly a steel crank in the thing. Anyways what should i offer this guy?

I've never built an engine before but i wanna learn bad so i figure a 350 would be my cheapest bet.

Thanks for the help all.

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69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside.
New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice.

Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks.
Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp.

SN= Ares220

*Fast68Chevy* · 05-06-2002, 09:45 PM

shoulda use same lower arms as the spindles are, 71-up changed location of stops on most models,
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i wpould investigate the engine alot closer, pull pan and get numbe roff crank and look it up and numbers off heads and avoid heads with last three digits of 882 or 624, 3970010 and 3970014 blocks are most likely what you wil find in 70's vans and trucks til 79. are most common and are very strong and most all are 4 bolt in trucks and vans always. if its been sitting that long and ownt turn with a 5/8" socket and decent size ratchet mouned on the crank pulley both head then its gonna need work and you better not give him much for it unless you are desperate.
good luck

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Randy- Lincoln, IL
randy@ccaonline.com 2177353230
*many GM parts bought, traded, or sold -am parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham

current fleet: -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07- basketcase, #1
-90 Cavalier 2.2L sky blue, driver, was free
-84 Z28 5.0L/700R4/3.73 daily driver
-84 Firebird/SE 2.8L/T-5/3.73/engine bad, project #2
-82 purple Trans Am, project #3
*Paint is overrated*
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Big69C20 Toy · 05-07-2002, 02:14 AM

ttt

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69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside.
New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice.

Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks.
Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp.

SN= Ares220

Big69C20 Toy · 05-07-2002, 01:11 PM

Well i guess there is no harm in it, i'll do some grinding and let ya'll know how it goes.

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69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside.
New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice.

Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks.
Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp.

SN= Ares220

tom hand · 05-07-2002, 01:35 PM

Ah that top shock mount. It's acually a piece of cake with the motor out. LOL I use a craftsmen 1/2" ratchet with the socket that fits it.[Brainfart can't think of the size] No exstenstion,it will barely fit and you can only get one click at a time but it works.

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72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail
Olive Branch MS

*Fast68Chevy* · 05-07-2002, 02:49 PM

wil be either 11/16 or 3/4 depending on if factory or not, some are one and some are other, and its not fun, and headers make it even harder, i always install the later stud style hardware if hasnr already been done then all ytou gotta do is remove the smaller nut on the outside of the frame rail on the end of the stud itself and pry off the shock top eyelet,. easycake

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Randy- Lincoln, IL
randy@ccaonline.com 2177353230
*many GM parts bought, traded, or sold -am parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham

current fleet: -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07- basketcase, #1
-90 Cavalier 2.2L sky blue, a driver
-84 Z28 5.0L/700R4/3.73 daily driver
-84 Firebird/SE 2.8L/T-5/3.73/engine bad, project #2
-82 purple Trans Am, project #3
*Paint is overrated*
© RSS Enterprises 2000

Big69C20 Toy · 05-07-2002, 05:13 PM

Well i did taht part. and the bolt was 15/16 on the inside rail, use a good long wrench and it was alright.

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69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside.
New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice.

Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks.
Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp.

SN= Ares220

05-07-2002, 01:11 PM	#4
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	Well i guess there is no harm in it, i'll do some grinding and let ya'll know how it goes. ------------------ 69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside. New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice. Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks. Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp. SN= Ares220 __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

05-07-2002, 01:35 PM	#5
tom hand CCRider Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Olive Branch,MS,USA Posts: 2,232	Ah that top shock mount. It's acually a piece of cake with the motor out. LOL I use a craftsmen 1/2" ratchet with the socket that fits it.[Brainfart can't think of the size] No exstenstion,it will barely fit and you can only get one click at a time but it works. ------------------ 72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail Olive Branch MS __________________ 72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail Olive Branch MS

05-07-2002, 05:13 PM	#7
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	Well i did taht part. and the bolt was 15/16 on the inside rail, use a good long wrench and it was alright. ------------------ 69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside. New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice. Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks. Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp. SN= Ares220 __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

05-06-2002, 09:19 PM	#1
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	Steering stops and other? Alright i was doing the shocks on my truck today and first off what a great position for that top mount! busted a multi angle extension witha 1/2" driver. grr. That said i also noticed my turning stops are way too big i think. I've got 73 discs on this truck (69 c20) and it seems like i could shave probly an inch off the stops on the spindle. Anyone out there done this or say dont do it. I see no rubbing issues at all on the front or rear for at least like 4 inches or so. Will shaving those stops help my turning radius like i think it will? Ok question 2 is i have the chance to buy a 70 something 350 4-bolt with a set of heads. The block he thinks is 40 over and has been sitting for about 15 years. Both items are off a 70's van so he said the heads are probly just smoggers. He also said possibly a steel crank in the thing. Anyways what should i offer this guy? I've never built an engine before but i wanna learn bad so i figure a 350 would be my cheapest bet. Thanks for the help all. ------------------ 69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside. New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice. Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks. Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp. SN= Ares220 __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

05-06-2002, 09:45 PM	#2
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	shoulda use same lower arms as the spindles are, 71-up changed location of stops on most models, ' i wpould investigate the engine alot closer, pull pan and get numbe roff crank and look it up and numbers off heads and avoid heads with last three digits of 882 or 624, 3970010 and 3970014 blocks are most likely what you wil find in 70's vans and trucks til 79. are most common and are very strong and most all are 4 bolt in trucks and vans always. if its been sitting that long and ownt turn with a 5/8" socket and decent size ratchet mouned on the crank pulley both head then its gonna need work and you better not give him much for it unless you are desperate. good luck ------------------ Randy- Lincoln, IL randy@ccaonline.com 2177353230 many GM parts bought, traded, or sold -am parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham current fleet: -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07- basketcase, #1 -90 Cavalier 2.2L sky blue, driver, was free -84 Z28 5.0L/700R4/3.73 daily driver -84 Firebird/SE 2.8L/T-5/3.73/engine bad, project #2 -82 purple Trans Am, project #3 Paint is overrated* © RSS Enterprises 2000

05-07-2002, 02:14 AM	#3
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	ttt ------------------ 69 Custom 20, 396BB,Longbed fleetside. New Oak Bed With SS strips... damn nice. Edelbrock performer RPM-O, Edelbrock 750Carb, Headers, HEI, 2 40" glasspacks. Stereo: Classic-style tape deck/radio, 2 6x9 Cerwin Vega's in doors, 2 10" Neo subs under seats, 1 900 Watt amp. SN= Ares220 __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

05-07-2002, 02:49 PM	#6
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	wil be either 11/16 or 3/4 depending on if factory or not, some are one and some are other, and its not fun, and headers make it even harder, i always install the later stud style hardware if hasnr already been done then all ytou gotta do is remove the smaller nut on the outside of the frame rail on the end of the stud itself and pry off the shock top eyelet,. easycake ------------------ Randy- Lincoln, IL randy@ccaonline.com 2177353230 many GM parts bought, traded, or sold -am parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham current fleet: -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07- basketcase, #1 -90 Cavalier 2.2L sky blue, a driver -84 Z28 5.0L/700R4/3.73 daily driver -84 Firebird/SE 2.8L/T-5/3.73/engine bad, project #2 -82 purple Trans Am, project #3 Paint is overrated* © RSS Enterprises 2000



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