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case_bt · 01-09-2006, 08:27 PM

I noticed white smoke coming out of my tail pipe at startup just out of the passenger side it smelt like antifreeze. I have noticed water missing from my radiator and have been refilling it and the truck runs fine. Well to make a long story short I took my spark plugs out and turned the engine over and water is coming out my #7 and #8 cylinders sparkplug holes more out of 8 than 7.
I did the normal trouble shooting

the facts

no water in oil oil looks good
antifreeze smell in exhaust
engine has about 2500 miles on it
I did not retorque my heads

What are the likely hood of it just being the intake manifold gasket?
what the chance of both head gaskets blowing?

**truckdude239** · 01-09-2006, 09:40 PM

blown head gasket sorry dude looks like it time for a top end rebuild only thing i know to do that unless the blocks cracked

junkyardjohn · 01-09-2006, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truckdude239

blown head gasket sorry dude looks like it time for a top end rebuild only thing i know to do that unless the blocks cracked

NAW... IF YOU ONLY HAVE 2500 MILES ON THE MOTOR, I KINDA DOUBT IT IS MORE THAN A HEAD GASKET OR INTAKE GASKET, OR BOTH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GASKETS YOU USED, BUT I LIKE TO USE FEL-PRO GASKETS. THE HEAD GASKETS ARE CALLED PERMA-TORQUE GASKETS & NEVER NEED RETORQUING. THE FIRST THING I WOULD TRY IS GASKETS. (THE SIDE WITH THE BLUE STRIPE GOES UP) JOHN

Steelawork'n · 01-09-2006, 10:59 PM

I'm surprised it's not over heating. Yup, head gasket because there is no water flow through and around the intake manifold.

blazerparts · 01-09-2006, 11:18 PM

nothing like the sweet smell of antifreeze in the exhaust.......

qksilver · 01-09-2006, 11:20 PM

Could be a few things, pull the head and there will be your answer

case_bt · 01-10-2006, 01:03 AM

after pulling the distributor and intake I was getting water in my oil nice yellow like mixture pulled the head off # 8 had water in it. Would you think the rings would be ok? before i pulled the head off I checked compression it was like 120-130 psi. heres some pics for you guys. this was my first engine to build and it won't be the last.

**truckdude239** · 01-10-2006, 01:13 AM

rings should be fine now just check the deck and the face of the heads and block make sure everything square. install new head gaskets and get the intake gasket on good and put her back together and hope eveything goes okay

case_bt · 01-10-2006, 01:15 AM

could i get some suggestions on what type of head gasket to buy I don't want crap and install tips would be great.

**truckdude239** · 01-10-2006, 08:38 AM

perma-torque gaskets by fel-pro are good gaskets

68haywagon · 01-10-2006, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junkyardjohn

THE HEAD GASKETS ARE CALLED PERMA-TORQUE GASKETS & NEVER NEED RETORQUING. THE FIRST THING I WOULD TRY IS GASKETS. (THE SIDE WITH THE BLUE STRIPE GOES UP) JOHN

Good advice

muddbugg72 · 01-10-2006, 12:43 PM

be sure to put thread sealer on all of your head bolts. they all go to the water jacket. hope you get it going.

case_bt · 01-10-2006, 02:55 PM

what bore size gasket do i get my truck is 40 over they have different sizes

case_bt · 01-10-2006, 06:18 PM

with the felpro do i install them dry

cdyblu · 01-10-2006, 06:29 PM

Go Fel-Pro all the way, they are the only gaskets I use. Never had a problem in well over 100 engines

case_bt · 01-10-2006, 06:46 PM

does anyone know what size bore gaskets to use my truck is 40 over but felpro has lots of different bore sizes?answered it myself part # 1003 they are good to 4.155 bore size

junkyardjohn · 01-10-2006, 08:40 PM

CASE... I'VE REBUILT MORE THAN A FEW MOTORS, & ONE LITTLE THING I ALWAYS DO IS USE FEL-PRO GASKETS. THEY ARE NOT THE CHEAPEST GASKETS YOU CAN BUY, BUT THATS OK... YOU DON'T WANT THE CHEAPEST ONES YOU CAN GET. ANOTHER LITTLE TIP IS SPRAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE HEAD GASKET WITH A COPPER HIGH-TAC & SEALANT PAINT (SEE PIC.) . JUST SPRAY IT ON BOTH SIDES & LET IT TAC UP FOR 4 OR 5 MINUTES BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM. THIS REALLY SEALS EM UP & MAKES THEM STICK LIKE SH!T TO A BLANKET.

JOHN

case_bt · 01-10-2006, 10:36 PM

the perma torque I bought said they need no sealant

junkyardjohn · 01-10-2006, 11:17 PM

IT'SPROBABLY OVERKILL ON MY PART.... BUT I'M ALMOST 48 & HAVE NEVER EVER HAD ONE FAIL.

JOHN

01-09-2006, 08:27 PM	#1
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Help!!! I noticed white smoke coming out of my tail pipe at startup just out of the passenger side it smelt like antifreeze. I have noticed water missing from my radiator and have been refilling it and the truck runs fine. Well to make a long story short I took my spark plugs out and turned the engine over and water is coming out my #7 and #8 cylinders sparkplug holes more out of 8 than 7. I did the normal trouble shooting the facts no water in oil oil looks good antifreeze smell in exhaust engine has about 2500 miles on it I did not retorque my heads What are the likely hood of it just being the intake manifold gasket? what the chance of both head gaskets blowing?

01-09-2006, 09:40 PM	#2
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,233	Re: Help!!! blown head gasket sorry dude looks like it time for a top end rebuild only thing i know to do that unless the blocks cracked __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube Last edited by truckdude239; 01-09-2006 at 09:41 PM.

01-09-2006, 10:59 PM	#4
Steelawork'n Just hang'n around Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camano Island WA Posts: 248	Re: Help!!! I'm surprised it's not over heating. Yup, head gasket because there is no water flow through and around the intake manifold. __________________ Driving a '68 Chevy C20 and a '93 Astro Van. Lots and lots of mileage that I deduct each year.

01-09-2006, 11:18 PM	#5
blazerparts No,I DON'T have Tourett's Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 556	Re: Help!!! nothing like the sweet smell of antifreeze in the exhaust....... __________________ '72 K5 CST 350/350 Daily Driver '69 GMC3500 Camper Special CST Flatbed 396/400 Upgraded to show truck '69 GMC 2500 L6292, 3spd beater

01-09-2006, 11:20 PM	#6
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: Help!!! Could be a few things, pull the head and there will be your answer

01-10-2006, 01:03 AM	#7
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Re: Help!!! after pulling the distributor and intake I was getting water in my oil nice yellow like mixture pulled the head off # 8 had water in it. Would you think the rings would be ok? before i pulled the head off I checked compression it was like 120-130 psi. heres some pics for you guys. this was my first engine to build and it won't be the last. Attached Images

01-10-2006, 01:13 AM	#8
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,233	Re: Help!!! rings should be fine now just check the deck and the face of the heads and block make sure everything square. install new head gaskets and get the intake gasket on good and put her back together and hope eveything goes okay __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-10-2006, 01:15 AM	#9
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Re: Help!!! could i get some suggestions on what type of head gasket to buy I don't want crap and install tips would be great.

01-10-2006, 08:38 AM	#10
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,233	Re: Help!!! perma-torque gaskets by fel-pro are good gaskets __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-10-2006, 12:43 PM	#12
muddbugg72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: port allen louisiana Posts: 207	Re: Help!!! be sure to put thread sealer on all of your head bolts. they all go to the water jacket. hope you get it going.

01-10-2006, 02:55 PM	#13
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Re: Help!!! what bore size gasket do i get my truck is 40 over they have different sizes

01-10-2006, 06:18 PM	#14
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Re: Help!!! with the felpro do i install them dry Last edited by case_bt; 01-10-2006 at 06:31 PM.

01-10-2006, 06:29 PM	#15
cdyblu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 44	Re: Help!!! Go Fel-Pro all the way, they are the only gaskets I use. Never had a problem in well over 100 engines __________________ "We always have parts left over on a job this size"

01-10-2006, 06:46 PM	#16
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Re: Help!!! does anyone know what size bore gaskets to use my truck is 40 over but felpro has lots of different bore sizes?answered it myself part # 1003 they are good to 4.155 bore size Last edited by case_bt; 01-10-2006 at 06:51 PM.

01-10-2006, 08:40 PM	#17
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Help!!! CASE... I'VE REBUILT MORE THAN A FEW MOTORS, & ONE LITTLE THING I ALWAYS DO IS USE FEL-PRO GASKETS. THEY ARE NOT THE CHEAPEST GASKETS YOU CAN BUY, BUT THATS OK... YOU DON'T WANT THE CHEAPEST ONES YOU CAN GET. ANOTHER LITTLE TIP IS SPRAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE HEAD GASKET WITH A COPPER HIGH-TAC & SEALANT PAINT (SEE PIC.) . JUST SPRAY IT ON BOTH SIDES & LET IT TAC UP FOR 4 OR 5 MINUTES BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM. THIS REALLY SEALS EM UP & MAKES THEM STICK LIKE SH!T TO A BLANKET. JOHN Attached Images __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST Last edited by junkyardjohn; 01-10-2006 at 08:42 PM.



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01-10-2006, 10:36 PM	#18
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	Re: Help!!! the perma torque I bought said they need no sealant

01-10-2006, 11:17 PM	#19
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Help!!! IT'SPROBABLY OVERKILL ON MY PART.... BUT I'M ALMOST 48 & HAVE NEVER EVER HAD ONE FAIL. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

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