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Anadrol · 12-10-2009, 09:28 PM

And tomorrow, my '78 Beast will have:

-Power Locks
-Power Windows
-Remote Keyless Entry
-Remote Start
-Iphone Integration for Remote Start, Keyless Entry, Temperature checks, Windows up/down, from anywhere in the country
-Sound Deadening in the Doors (while they're in there, why not?)

http://www.viper.com/ShopViperProduc...ItemCode=5902V

Project Back to the Future Begins...

GMC Guy · 12-10-2009, 10:07 PM

dang...how much is all that going to run you? if you don't mind me asking

y5mgisi · 12-11-2009, 02:14 AM

Cant wait to see how it all turns out!

Anadrol · 12-11-2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC Guy

dang...how much is all that going to run you? if you don't mind me asking

I will post again once everything is installed and I have an actual bill in my hands to tell you how much it was, but here's the prices I think I'm working with:

Viper 5902 Security + Remote Start = $375.00
Install Labor for that Kit = $65.00 (special deal, special circumstances)
Power Locks Kit= $125
Power Windows Kit = $250
Labor on both kits = $200
Sound Deadening + Labor = $150

We will see how good this goes, but if this is a clean install, then I've found an awesome new shop here in town. Dude gave me a ride home (so I wouldn't have to make someone follow me there to drop off the truck) and his prices are phenomenal.

*EDIT - Final bill was $615.00 and everything is done. Pictures to follow.

Mr.Scary · 12-11-2009, 10:51 AM

man i wish i had that kind of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ LOL

**old Rusty C10** · 12-11-2009, 11:49 AM

Sounds like its gonna be killer!! make sure you show us lots of pics when its complete!

Walts_restoration · 12-11-2009, 04:08 PM

You carb'd or fuel injection? I wouldnt think remote start on a carb would work to well. Or maybe a solenoid for pumping it? hah.

Anadrol · 12-12-2009, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walts_restoration

You carb'd or fuel injection? I wouldnt think remote start on a carb would work to well. Or maybe a solenoid for pumping it? hah.

Carb.
And yes, I had the same worries, but it works for a couple reasons-
1. The Viper system automatically tries 3 times whenever you initiate the remote start function. This happens regardless of whether your car is carb or f.i.

2. You get feedback on the little key FOB when you remote start. So it's not just a shot in the dark like with the older more primitive remote start modules. When I hit the remote start, the key FOB tells me if it was successful or if it failed. So if I want, I can make 20 attempts before it actually fires up.

mongoose · 12-12-2009, 01:59 AM

how many times does it take before it catches on a cold motor?

joe231 · 12-12-2009, 10:08 AM

How do you move the throttle to set the choke, get it up on fast idle, and give it the shot of fuel it needs to fire up cold?

Ceeten · 12-12-2009, 10:23 AM

If it has a q-jet it should have a fast idle solenoid and electric choke. If it's tuned right it should bust right off. Not sure about a 78 but my 83 k5 had it. It cranked really good, hot or cold. Of course here in Florida "cold" is a little different than Indy cold! Also interested in what power window kit you are going with.

joe231 · 12-12-2009, 12:13 PM

Not in '78.....

Ceeten · 12-12-2009, 03:43 PM

Bummer. Maybe it could be retrofitted?

cochino12 · 12-12-2009, 07:23 PM

When I used to install we would just add an actuator under the hood to pull the throttle back to get a carbed truck to start, once its running on high idle push the button again and it would pull the throttle again and idle back down.

joe231 · 12-12-2009, 07:42 PM

That's a good idea.
You know what kind of actuator you used? Brand name? Did you have to fab up a bracket or is there a bolt on kit?

cochino12 · 12-12-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

That's a good idea.
You know what kind of actuator you used? Brand name? Did you have to fab up a bracket or is there a bolt on kit?

I always used a regular door lock actuator, only problem is sometimes they would have a long enough pull so you would have to push the buttome a few times but really it wasnt too big of a deal. We would fab a bracket but it was pretty simple.

mongoose · 12-12-2009, 09:04 PM

i've been thinking about how to get around this...

and this will pretty much only work if you have a elec fuel pump, but it might if you dont, not sure.

get a no2 plate, or whole system, and run the fuel solenoid off a timer relay etc.(DEI 528T) so when it cranks it'll turn on the fuel solenoid for a second, then turn it off, so you get the fuel to mimic pumping it.

plus it gives you a good reason to juice the motor!

Anadrol · 12-12-2009, 10:30 PM

Well, as far as getting it to remote start first thing in the morning, totally cold, I just don't really have those expectations.

So far, I haven't been able to test the remote start function because there's a problem with the wiring making the alarm system constantly think the trunk is open. Obviously, there is no trunk. I think the installer made the alarm think that the hood was the trunk, and he screwed something up in that part of the install.

It was a good idea, since anyone could walk up and pop the hood on my truck any time they want to. His thinking was right, and it would need to be wired that way so that the hood opening would trip the alarm. However, even with a closed hood, when I hit the remote start button, it fails and says that the trunk had been triggered, and it sets the alarm off. I will have this all fixed on Monday, but until then, I can't really tell you how well the remote start is working.

It worked fine when I first went to pick up the truck from the shop. He pushed the button and it came right to life.

menace121978 · 12-12-2009, 11:09 PM

subscribing for the update...

ShowSS12 · 12-13-2009, 01:17 AM

I am very interested to know how the iphone control dose. I have been looking at on like but I dunno if it worth the $$$

*nekkidhillbilly* · 12-13-2009, 01:51 PM

that iphone app is expensive

Hoods69BadBowTie · 12-13-2009, 04:18 PM

Wow damn that's pretty sweet for sure. Don't sound like too bad a price either man

ghettoluxury · 12-13-2009, 09:17 PM

Mr.Scary · 12-14-2009, 11:25 AM

Anadrol · 12-14-2009, 11:38 AM

Truck is back in the shop getting the sensors adjusted on the alarm system and getting more sound deadening Dynamat put in.

When finished, the truck will be Dynamat Xtremed everywhere.
-Under Hood
-Under headliner
-Under the carpet on the floor
-On the back wall
-All over the firewall

I will get a bunch of pictures when it is returned, and maybe a few along the way if I get a chance to check in on the progress sometime this week.

*EDIT - Just got off the phone with the guy and JUST FOR THE POSTERS HERE, he is going to take pictures of this project so that you can see the progress.
You can also see his site here: http://www.sinisterautosports.com/
and I usually wouldn't ever plug a company like this for any reason, but they are doing excellent work on this. I had quotes as high as $1,200 to sound deaden my entire cab, and that was with different material that I hadn't heard of. This place is doing it for $450 with Xtreme Dynamat, and I doubt if I could do it for that price if I did it myself with that stuff.

12-10-2009, 09:28 PM	#1
Anadrol Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 151	At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... And tomorrow, my '78 Beast will have: -Power Locks -Power Windows -Remote Keyless Entry -Remote Start -Iphone Integration for Remote Start, Keyless Entry, Temperature checks, Windows up/down, from anywhere in the country -Sound Deadening in the Doors (while they're in there, why not?) http://www.viper.com/ShopViperProduc...ItemCode=5902V Project Back to the Future Begins...

12-10-2009, 10:07 PM	#2
GMC Guy Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 913	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... dang...how much is all that going to run you? if you don't mind me asking __________________ Greg 1974 GMC 1/2 Ton SWB Fleetside L33 5.3/4l65e .................__ ............._____l __\__ ..............l_(O)_ l___(O)]

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y5mgisi Second Chance Program Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,642	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... Cant wait to see how it all turns out!

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Mr.Scary Project Optimus Prime Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... man i wish i had that kind of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ LOL __________________ 84 SWB work in progress 89 burb 1500 (parts pig) LOL 08 ford focus (I know, I know) Wifes car "I said it b4 and i'll say it agian wiring is my worst enemy":devil:

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Walts_restoration Real Projects never die Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lawrence, kansas Posts: 1,508	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... You carb'd or fuel injection? I wouldnt think remote start on a carb would work to well. Or maybe a solenoid for pumping it? hah. __________________ Ill put it this way, ive got a few lawn ornaments My name tag says Ryan KansasTwister On other forums

12-12-2009, 01:59 AM	#9
mongoose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: slurrey, bc. Posts: 1,134	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... how many times does it take before it catches on a cold motor? __________________ -'73 c/10 - Low with Go - will be complete... probably never. -'90 2wd Blazer - well... soon enough anyways. -'84 SWB - the daily gas guzzler.

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joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... How do you move the throttle to set the choke, get it up on fast idle, and give it the shot of fuel it needs to fire up cold? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-12-2009, 10:23 AM	#11
Ceeten Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Jay, Fl Posts: 126	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... If it has a q-jet it should have a fast idle solenoid and electric choke. If it's tuned right it should bust right off. Not sure about a 78 but my 83 k5 had it. It cranked really good, hot or cold. Of course here in Florida "cold" is a little different than Indy cold! Also interested in what power window kit you are going with. Last edited by Ceeten; 12-12-2009 at 10:33 AM.

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joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... Not in '78..... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-12-2009, 03:43 PM	#13
Ceeten Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Jay, Fl Posts: 126	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... Bummer. Maybe it could be retrofitted?

12-12-2009, 07:23 PM	#14
cochino12 It followed me home? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yup Posts: 5,751	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... When I used to install we would just add an actuator under the hood to pull the throttle back to get a carbed truck to start, once its running on high idle push the button again and it would pull the throttle again and idle back down. __________________ Adam That's why they call it a shortcut Kyle, if it was easy it would just be the way. 86 c-10 SWB 85 CCSB 90 GMC K30 Crew SRW 1985 C30 Dually

12-12-2009, 07:42 PM	#15
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... That's a good idea. You know what kind of actuator you used? Brand name? Did you have to fab up a bracket or is there a bolt on kit? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-12-2009, 09:04 PM	#17
mongoose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: slurrey, bc. Posts: 1,134	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... i've been thinking about how to get around this... and this will pretty much only work if you have a elec fuel pump, but it might if you dont, not sure. get a no2 plate, or whole system, and run the fuel solenoid off a timer relay etc.(DEI 528T) so when it cranks it'll turn on the fuel solenoid for a second, then turn it off, so you get the fuel to mimic pumping it. plus it gives you a good reason to juice the motor! __________________ -'73 c/10 - Low with Go - will be complete... probably never. -'90 2wd Blazer - well... soon enough anyways. -'84 SWB - the daily gas guzzler.

12-12-2009, 10:30 PM	#18
Anadrol Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 151	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... Well, as far as getting it to remote start first thing in the morning, totally cold, I just don't really have those expectations. So far, I haven't been able to test the remote start function because there's a problem with the wiring making the alarm system constantly think the trunk is open. Obviously, there is no trunk. I think the installer made the alarm think that the hood was the trunk, and he screwed something up in that part of the install. It was a good idea, since anyone could walk up and pop the hood on my truck any time they want to. His thinking was right, and it would need to be wired that way so that the hood opening would trip the alarm. However, even with a closed hood, when I hit the remote start button, it fails and says that the trunk had been triggered, and it sets the alarm off. I will have this all fixed on Monday, but until then, I can't really tell you how well the remote start is working. It worked fine when I first went to pick up the truck from the shop. He pushed the button and it came right to life.



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12-14-2009, 11:38 AM	#25
Anadrol Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 151	Re: At the Car Stereo Shop Right Now... Truck is back in the shop getting the sensors adjusted on the alarm system and getting more sound deadening Dynamat put in. When finished, the truck will be Dynamat Xtremed everywhere. -Under Hood -Under headliner -Under the carpet on the floor -On the back wall -All over the firewall I will get a bunch of pictures when it is returned, and maybe a few along the way if I get a chance to check in on the progress sometime this week. EDIT - Just got off the phone with the guy and JUST FOR THE POSTERS HERE, he is going to take pictures of this project so that you can see the progress. You can also see his site here: http://www.sinisterautosports.com/ and I usually wouldn't ever plug a company like this for any reason, but they are doing excellent work on this. I had quotes as high as $1,200 to sound deaden my entire cab, and that was with different material that I hadn't heard of. This place is doing it for $450 with Xtreme Dynamat, and I doubt if I could do it for that price if I did it myself with that stuff. Last edited by Anadrol; 12-14-2009 at 12:39 PM.*

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