Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

cedorris · 11-17-2009, 06:17 PM

I'm in the process of swapping cabs on my 72 Super to a non-Super, factory AC cab.

I want to retain all the original trim and options that came with the Super in 72. What do I need to consider in this swap? Some things I've already considered are as follows:

Chrome ring under rear window
Chrome ring around headliner
Rear cargo lamp

What am I not considering here? I know someone has to have done something like this before, but the search isn't rendering any results. Thanks for the help!

**Classic Heartbeat** · 11-17-2009, 06:21 PM

Glove Box Lid, Door panels or at least the woodgrain inserts, dash bezel and 4X4 shifter lever if it is a 4x4. WES

**Classic Heartbeat** · 11-17-2009, 06:22 PM

Also does your cab have bucket seats? If so there are some brackets that are mounted to the bottom side of the floor too. WES

cedorris · 11-17-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Heartbeat

Glove Box Lid, Door panels or at least the woodgrain inserts, dash bezel and 4X4 shifter lever if it is a 4x4. WES

All of the interior pieces: Glove box door, doors, door panels, etc will be pulled from my existing cab and placed in the new one.

I'm working with a COMPLETELY bare cab.

Both trucks were factory bench seats. No 4X4.

**71blksuper4x4** · 11-17-2009, 07:15 PM

The main thing is the headliner. It is punched out for the headliner trim. It is very difficult to reproduce or atleast very time consuming. Depends on how anal you are about originality. Not 100% if they all have cargo lamps or not, but of all that I have seen had one. Other than the headliner and cargo lamp, there shouldn't be any other problems except if it was an a/c truck and the cab isn't, the firewalls are different. Trevor

cedorris · 11-17-2009, 09:45 PM

Both cabs are AC so we are good there!

What do you mean by the headliner being punched out? I'm not extremely anal about details, but I want it to look good. Can you go into a bit more detail as to what I should expect or maybe some How To Guides?

cedorris · 11-18-2009, 11:12 AM

I looked around the headliner area and think I know what you are talking about Trevor...

There are some long oval shaped holes cut around the edge of the recessed area for the headliner? Is that the support for the headliner?

**68350** · 11-18-2009, 02:55 PM

We added a headliner to our 68 gmc. It takes a while but if you mark your cuts and recheck everything before you cut, it shouldn't be bad. I would say maybe an hour or two after you have everything ready to cut. We used a die grinder, seemed to work about the best. Also, your super would have had the door jamb switches, so make sure the other cab has them if you want complete originallity. Cargo lights were included in the super package, I BELIEVE. Never seen a cargo light on a spid, but always see the cheyennes and supers with em. Don't forget chrome vent windows and windshield bright work to go along with your rear window.

cedorris · 11-18-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 68350

We added a headliner to our 68 gmc. It takes a while but if you mark your cuts and recheck everything before you cut, it shouldn't be bad. I would say maybe an hour or two after you have everything ready to cut. We used a die grinder, seemed to work about the best. Also, your super would have had the door jamb switches, so make sure the other cab has them if you want complete originallity. Cargo lights were included in the super package, I BELIEVE. Never seen a cargo light on a spid, but always see the cheyennes and supers with em. Don't forget chrome vent windows and windshield bright work to go along with your rear window.

Great info!

My super does have a rear cargo light. By door jam switches do you mean for the dome light? My super does have that. I would assume it would just be a case of measuring and drilling the holes for those?

All of the vents and interior pieces will be transfered over or replaced so I'm good there.

72BlckButy · 11-18-2009, 03:55 PM

The VIN...

PowerPro · 11-18-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

The VIN...

Ya, would definitely be nice to have the vin # match the frame...

cedorris · 11-18-2009, 04:04 PM

Is swapping the VIN plate illegal?

cedorris · 11-18-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cedorris

Is swapping the VIN plate illegal?

Never mind. After some research it appears that touching the VIN at all is off limits. Looks like I'm going to have a mismatched truck?

Which title goes with the truck if I have different numbers on the frame, engine, and cab? I don't plan I selling it ever, but I don't want to get in trouble with Johnny Law.

**68350** · 11-18-2009, 05:34 PM

Well as long as this stays hush hush, you should be able to find a set of rosebud rivets on here. Pop the vin off, switch it with yours, use the rosebud rivets and no one would ever know. Make sure to either put a vin on the cab your not using or cut it up, too.

**Joesjunk** · 11-18-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68350

Well as long as this stays hush hush, you should be able to find a set of rosebud rivets on here. Pop the vin off, switch it with yours, use the rosebud rivets and no one would ever know. Make sure to either put a vin on the cab your not using or cut it up, too.

cedorris · 11-19-2009, 07:05 PM

Ok, so here is my check list for the AC Cheyenne cab swap:
Cargo Light
Headliner - takes time, but can be cut with a dremmel
Chrome ring around rear of cab - weld in new studs
Consider the VIN situation
Someone mentioned "door jam switches" - I'm not sure what this is.

Is there anything I'm leaving out? The cab is having the body work done as we speak and I want to get with my body man and have all this stuff lined out BEFORE we go to paint.

Thanks again folks!!

**68350** · 11-19-2009, 09:31 PM

The door jamb switches I mentioned are for the light in the cab. Don't have to have them, but are correct for a super.

**Joesjunk** · 11-20-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedorris

Ok, so here is my check list for the AC Cheyenne cab swap:
Cargo Light
Headliner - takes time, but can be cut with a dremmel
Chrome ring around rear of cab - weld in new studs
Consider the VIN situation
Someone mentioned "door jam switches" - I'm not sure what this is.

Is there anything I'm leaving out? The cab is having the body work done as we speak and I want to get with my body man and have all this stuff lined out BEFORE we go to paint.

Thanks again folks!!

They make special screws to attach the clips for the paint divider trim on the back of the cab , so you dont have to try to weld studs on. Im sure most vendors on here have them. They dont cost very much.

cedorris · 11-20-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joesjunk

They make special screws to attach the clips for the paint divider trim on the back of the cab , so you dont have to try to weld studs on. Im sure most vendors on here have them. They dont cost very much.

I saw a place here in OKC that carries them for about 15 cents each.

Do they work well? It would save me some labor hours to do screw in clips vs. having my body man weld in studs.

**Joesjunk** · 11-20-2009, 01:49 PM

My friend just used them and said they worked good

sameyrasmea72 · 11-20-2009, 02:35 PM

Are you painting your truck back to a two tone? If not you don't need(and it would be incorrect to have)the trim on the back of the cab.

cedorris · 11-20-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

Are you painting your truck back to a two tone? If not you don't need(and it would be incorrect to have)the trim on the back of the cab.

Yes. I'm going back to the original Dark Olive/White color scheme.

turp mcspray · 11-20-2009, 10:28 PM

The weld on studs do NOT work.

cedorris · 11-23-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by turp mcspray

The weld on studs do NOT work.

What about the screw in type shown here:
http://mar-k.com/catalog/catalog.asp...19721972CQ-150

**too much stuff** · 11-23-2009, 11:59 AM

Personally, i wouldn't worry about switching the vin tag the way you are doing it. As long as you have a reciept on the other cab. What would a body shop do? I assume the super is in your name...
As far as the studs for the paint divider trim, i hear the uni-spotter weld on studs work well. I am not to that point yet or i would let you know. Eric

11-17-2009, 06:17 PM	#1
cedorris 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 302	Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? I'm in the process of swapping cabs on my 72 Super to a non-Super, factory AC cab. I want to retain all the original trim and options that came with the Super in 72. What do I need to consider in this swap? Some things I've already considered are as follows: Chrome ring under rear window Chrome ring around headliner Rear cargo lamp What am I not considering here? I know someone has to have done something like this before, but the search isn't rendering any results. Thanks for the help! __________________ -Clayton 1972 Cheyenne Super LWB 350 - farm truck restore project - twitter @oldgreen

11-17-2009, 06:21 PM	#2
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Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? Also does your cab have bucket seats? If so there are some brackets that are mounted to the bottom side of the floor too. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

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71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,155	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? The main thing is the headliner. It is punched out for the headliner trim. It is very difficult to reproduce or atleast very time consuming. Depends on how anal you are about originality. Not 100% if they all have cargo lamps or not, but of all that I have seen had one. Other than the headliner and cargo lamp, there shouldn't be any other problems except if it was an a/c truck and the cab isn't, the firewalls are different. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

11-17-2009, 09:45 PM	#6
cedorris 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 302	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? Both cabs are AC so we are good there! What do you mean by the headliner being punched out? I'm not extremely anal about details, but I want it to look good. Can you go into a bit more detail as to what I should expect or maybe some How To Guides? __________________ -Clayton 1972 Cheyenne Super LWB 350 - farm truck restore project - twitter @oldgreen

11-18-2009, 11:12 AM	#7
cedorris 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 302	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? I looked around the headliner area and think I know what you are talking about Trevor... There are some long oval shaped holes cut around the edge of the recessed area for the headliner? Is that the support for the headliner? __________________ -Clayton 1972 Cheyenne Super LWB 350 - farm truck restore project - twitter @oldgreen

11-18-2009, 02:55 PM	#8
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? We added a headliner to our 68 gmc. It takes a while but if you mark your cuts and recheck everything before you cut, it shouldn't be bad. I would say maybe an hour or two after you have everything ready to cut. We used a die grinder, seemed to work about the best. Also, your super would have had the door jamb switches, so make sure the other cab has them if you want complete originallity. Cargo lights were included in the super package, I BELIEVE. Never seen a cargo light on a spid, but always see the cheyennes and supers with em. Don't forget chrome vent windows and windshield bright work to go along with your rear window. __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

11-18-2009, 03:55 PM	#10
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11-18-2009, 04:04 PM	#12
cedorris 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 302	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? Is swapping the VIN plate illegal? __________________ -Clayton 1972 Cheyenne Super LWB 350 - farm truck restore project - twitter @oldgreen Last edited by cedorris; 11-18-2009 at 04:09 PM.

11-18-2009, 05:34 PM	#14
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? Well as long as this stays hush hush, you should be able to find a set of rosebud rivets on here. Pop the vin off, switch it with yours, use the rosebud rivets and no one would ever know. Make sure to either put a vin on the cab your not using or cut it up, too. __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

11-19-2009, 07:05 PM	#16
cedorris 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 302	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? Ok, so here is my check list for the AC Cheyenne cab swap: Cargo Light Headliner - takes time, but can be cut with a dremmel Chrome ring around rear of cab - weld in new studs Consider the VIN situation Someone mentioned "door jam switches" - I'm not sure what this is. Is there anything I'm leaving out? The cab is having the body work done as we speak and I want to get with my body man and have all this stuff lined out BEFORE we go to paint. Thanks again folks!! __________________ -Clayton 1972 Cheyenne Super LWB 350 - farm truck restore project - twitter @oldgreen

11-19-2009, 09:31 PM	#17
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Cab Swap - 72 Super Cab -> Non-Super cab. What do I need to consider? The door jamb switches I mentioned are for the light in the cab. Don't have to have them, but are correct for a super. __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

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11-20-2009, 02:35 PM	#21
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11-23-2009, 11:59 AM	#25
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