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Burt4x4 · 10-11-2004, 01:45 PM

Hello Everyone, a while back I was here asking about adapting a 73+ engine crossmember to my 72 K5 for my SBC to BBC swap. Well I did it and thought I would share some pics..they are kinda dark, sorry. TOo much black paint...

Cain't wait to drive my K5 again

The Xmember was kinda tuff to get in and lined up but it did fit. Now I will beable to remove the oil pan without lifting the engine

Burt

**Yukon Jack** · 10-11-2004, 02:36 PM

You know I'm a droolin'!!

LUV2XCLR8 · 10-11-2004, 03:22 PM

DAMN

bouncytruck · 10-11-2004, 03:23 PM

Nice! Did you have any firewall problems or did the cross member solve that problem?

Burt4x4 · 10-11-2004, 04:04 PM

I did have to bang bang on the firewall a lil bit, but not too bad. The crossmembers main function is to allow the oil pan to be dropped with out moving the engine. Well that and the ORD engine mounts work too

Sooooon...

**Yukon Jack** · 10-11-2004, 04:46 PM

Burt, can you get a close up pic from the side showing the frame and engine so I can get an idea of how high your engine is sitting? I'm wondering if the new crossmember your using allows the engine to sit lower than if you had used your stock crossmember and mounts. I just happen to now have a crossmember from a 78 4x4 that I could use if that would help my situation, I definitely want to drop my cab down a bit.

Burt4x4 · 10-11-2004, 05:39 PM

Yup sure can, well I just have to remember once I leave work! hahahaha

I will try to get some better lighting too, so the black doesn't all blend together.
I'll try to post up tonight, again as long as I remember...getting old you know

Burt

Burt4x4 · 10-12-2004, 10:39 AM

Thought I would just post them up here...

So much fun

FRENCHBLUE72 · 10-12-2004, 09:53 PM

Damn nice set-up ...

cheyenne10 · 10-13-2004, 12:08 AM

I'm not familiar with your fuel delivery system. Can you explain type and requirements as well as expected gains over stock quadrajet to a rookie?

Burt4x4 · 10-13-2004, 11:10 AM

Hey Cheyenne10, What you see there is EdelBrock Multi-Point Fuel Injection.
The intake comes complete with everything needed to convert a carbed rig into FI. This unit comes with a hand held controll box so no need for a laptop to tune it. I hear tuning is or can be a pain...I guess I'm gonna find out. But like everything once it's set right then

time to ROCK!!

Oh ya the version I got in the Performer type(idel to 5500) not the high reving RPM version.
This rat was built for all lowend torque, yer basic stump puller

71jimmy · 10-13-2004, 12:35 PM

That FI looks sick. I may also go that way when I rebuild my motor. One thing I'm curiuos about, do you need to build the motor differently for FI versus carb?

Burt4x4 · 10-13-2004, 02:02 PM

Well yes and no. FI does like higher compressions but you can bolt this set to an orginally carbed engine with no changes. Edelbrock will need to know the cam specs inoreder to burn the chip that goes in the computer to run the FI.
This 454 was built around the MPFI intake. The whole engine was built to the specs for lowend torque & fuel injection. CompCams recomended the cam grind to match the lowend torque and fuel injection. I ended up with at least 9:1.1compression(engine guy said with the oversized valves he used will increase the compresion simply due to there size reducing the chamber volume..or something like that hahahaa. This is my first build up so I am still learning all the gearhead talk and stuff

71jimmy · 10-13-2004, 07:28 PM

Ok, so I better decide bt FI or Carb before I start the build. I'm thinking along the same lines as you, more torque, but will rebuild my 350. Thanks

**jamie72** · 10-13-2004, 09:35 PM

thats too damn nice!!!
so what will the fi setup cost a guy?? i`d love to do that to my next truck prodject..
keep us posted!

jamie

Burt4x4 · 10-14-2004, 12:47 PM

I got it from summit racing
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...4925172+302645

Thanks for the comments

cheyenne10 · 10-14-2004, 01:08 PM

Some day I guess. At $2500 for fuel delivery I'm out though. Glad I asked before I started dreaming too much!!

Big J · 10-14-2004, 09:05 PM

Thats one of the coolest setups that I've seen in a long time, and its not even done. Ya have to keep the pics comin', nice work.

teamharvey · 10-14-2004, 11:41 PM

Burt, I would love to sneak by sometime and take a closer look.

Bret

Burt4x4 · 10-15-2004, 10:09 AM

Sure comon by...I should be home this weekend.

Chevyboy1962 · 10-20-2004, 01:49 AM

Burt, that BBC is sweet!!!

I'm gonna have to come, and check it out.

David

Trifelynn · 10-20-2004, 08:50 AM

I didn't even see you guys were in my home towns...Turlock, Modesto...
haha.

I am actually from Hughson, Ca...but my parents now live in Modesto.
Where are you guys at?

My parents live back by Palendale, over by Big Valley Church(that is where they go to church)

Burt4x4 · 10-20-2004, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trifelynn

I didn't even see you guys were in my home towns...Turlock, Modesto...
haha.

I am actually from Hughson, Ca...but my parents now live in Modesto.
Where are you guys at?

My parents live back by Palendale, over by Big Valley Church(that is where they go to church)

Right there is were I am also

Well Snyder not Palendale, same area. I am in the Dutch Hallow area, not the brand new homes. My kids just started going to the new elementary school that was just built right there on Snyder. We ahve been there for almost 2yrs. We use to live in Salida, East side by the 76 station.
You can see us on my wife's web site
www.lisaburt.com
She is a RealEstate agent in Modesto for about 6yrs now.

Thanks for all the great comments fellas. I will share more pics down the road when I get the K5 put back together

Later
Burt

Trifelynn · 10-20-2004, 11:20 AM

LOL, you are like two minutes from my parents.

They live at the corner of Bangs and Carver...

Small world..

My parents work at the Save Mart Main office at Bangs Standiford and Carver

Last name Endres

If it rings a bell...

What is your last name?
My parents might know you

Burt4x4 · 10-20-2004, 11:31 AM

hahah yup small world.
Burt is my last name, Steve is my first

My wife's family is native to the area I am from Auburn, up pass Sacramento on Hwy 80. Her familys name is Olmo, mostly Ripon/Escalon areas.
I am near Snyder and Presscott

From your profile you are on the East coast now, you move out there for work? Come back to Cali and we can go wheelin

Burt

10-11-2004, 01:45 PM	#1
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	BBC is in>>>Pics>> Hello Everyone, a while back I was here asking about adapting a 73+ engine crossmember to my 72 K5 for my SBC to BBC swap. Well I did it and thought I would share some pics..they are kinda dark, sorry. TOo much black paint... Cain't wait to drive my K5 again The Xmember was kinda tuff to get in and lined up but it did fit. Now I will beable to remove the oil pan without lifting the engine Burt __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-11-2004, 02:36 PM	#2
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	You know I'm a droolin'!! __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

10-11-2004, 03:22 PM	#3
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,484	DAMN __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

10-11-2004, 03:23 PM	#4
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,049	Nice! Did you have any firewall problems or did the cross member solve that problem? __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

10-11-2004, 04:04 PM	#5
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	I did have to bang bang on the firewall a lil bit, but not too bad. The crossmembers main function is to allow the oil pan to be dropped with out moving the engine. Well that and the ORD engine mounts work too Sooooon... __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-11-2004, 04:46 PM	#6
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Burt, can you get a close up pic from the side showing the frame and engine so I can get an idea of how high your engine is sitting? I'm wondering if the new crossmember your using allows the engine to sit lower than if you had used your stock crossmember and mounts. I just happen to now have a crossmember from a 78 4x4 that I could use if that would help my situation, I definitely want to drop my cab down a bit. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

10-11-2004, 05:39 PM	#7
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Yup sure can, well I just have to remember once I leave work! hahahaha I will try to get some better lighting too, so the black doesn't all blend together. I'll try to post up tonight, again as long as I remember...getting old you know Burt __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-12-2004, 10:39 AM	#8
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Thought I would just post them up here... So much fun __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-12-2004, 09:53 PM	#9
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Damn nice set-up ... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

10-13-2004, 12:08 AM	#10
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	Looking Good I'm not familiar with your fuel delivery system. Can you explain type and requirements as well as expected gains over stock quadrajet to a rookie? __________________ Bob

10-13-2004, 11:10 AM	#11
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Hey Cheyenne10, What you see there is EdelBrock Multi-Point Fuel Injection. The intake comes complete with everything needed to convert a carbed rig into FI. This unit comes with a hand held controll box so no need for a laptop to tune it. I hear tuning is or can be a pain...I guess I'm gonna find out. But like everything once it's set right then time to ROCK!! Oh ya the version I got in the Performer type(idel to 5500) not the high reving RPM version. This rat was built for all lowend torque, yer basic stump puller __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-13-2004, 12:35 PM	#12
71jimmy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,084	That FI looks sick. I may also go that way when I rebuild my motor. One thing I'm curiuos about, do you need to build the motor differently for FI versus carb? __________________ '71 Jimmy, 350, SM465, NP205, 2in Tuff Country lift, 33s on rallies, TBI, softtop and hardtop "If life was fair you'd be able to afford one of each and a garage large enough to house them all."

10-13-2004, 02:02 PM	#13
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Well yes and no. FI does like higher compressions but you can bolt this set to an orginally carbed engine with no changes. Edelbrock will need to know the cam specs inoreder to burn the chip that goes in the computer to run the FI. This 454 was built around the MPFI intake. The whole engine was built to the specs for lowend torque & fuel injection. CompCams recomended the cam grind to match the lowend torque and fuel injection. I ended up with at least 9:1.1compression(engine guy said with the oversized valves he used will increase the compresion simply due to there size reducing the chamber volume..or something like that hahahaa. This is my first build up so I am still learning all the gearhead talk and stuff __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-13-2004, 07:28 PM	#14
71jimmy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,084	Ok, so I better decide bt FI or Carb before I start the build. I'm thinking along the same lines as you, more torque, but will rebuild my 350. Thanks __________________ '71 Jimmy, 350, SM465, NP205, 2in Tuff Country lift, 33s on rallies, TBI, softtop and hardtop "If life was fair you'd be able to afford one of each and a garage large enough to house them all."

10-13-2004, 09:35 PM	#15
jamie72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: madison indiana Posts: 3,839	thats too damn nice!!! so what will the fi setup cost a guy?? i`d love to do that to my next truck prodject.. keep us posted! jamie __________________ jamie72 72 BB cheyenne -- Restoration getting started.. member #807 http://www.myspace.com/whitetailobsession www.antlertalk.com



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10-14-2004, 12:47 PM	#16
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	I got it from summit racing http://store.summitracing.com/partde...4925172+302645 Thanks for the comments __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-14-2004, 01:08 PM	#17
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	sounds awesome Some day I guess. At $2500 for fuel delivery I'm out though. Glad I asked before I started dreaming too much!! __________________ Bob

10-14-2004, 09:05 PM	#18
Big J Its lookin' like a Blazer! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Gods Country, KY Posts: 1,773	Thats one of the coolest setups that I've seen in a long time, and its not even done. Ya have to keep the pics comin', nice work. __________________ BAZINGA! My Build

10-14-2004, 11:41 PM	#19
teamharvey Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Turlock, Ca Posts: 579	Burt, I would love to sneak by sometime and take a closer look. Bret

10-15-2004, 10:09 AM	#20
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Sure comon by...I should be home this weekend. __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

10-20-2004, 01:49 AM	#21
Chevyboy1962 C10 now is a GMC Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Modesto, Ca Posts: 740	Burt, that BBC is sweet!!! I'm gonna have to come, and check it out. David __________________ 1962 C10 swb fleetside, big window, custom cab 350/TH350 combo...Hot Rod 1963 C10 lwb fleetside, small window 230/4 speed...Blvd Cruiser *1931 Ford 5 window coupe (soon to be Hot Rod)... Father & Son project

10-20-2004, 08:50 AM	#22
Trifelynn Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Williston, North Dakota Posts: 469	Lol I didn't even see you guys were in my home towns...Turlock, Modesto... haha. I am actually from Hughson, Ca...but my parents now live in Modesto. Where are you guys at? My parents live back by Palendale, over by Big Valley Church(that is where they go to church) __________________ Always looking for a 2wd blazer

10-20-2004, 11:20 AM	#24
Trifelynn Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Williston, North Dakota Posts: 469	LOL, you are like two minutes from my parents. They live at the corner of Bangs and Carver... Small world.. My parents work at the Save Mart Main office at Bangs Standiford and Carver Last name Endres If it rings a bell... What is your last name? My parents might know you __________________ Always looking for a 2wd blazer

10-20-2004, 11:31 AM	#25
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	hahah yup small world. Burt is my last name, Steve is my first My wife's family is native to the area I am from Auburn, up pass Sacramento on Hwy 80. Her familys name is Olmo, mostly Ripon/Escalon areas. I am near Snyder and Presscott From your profile you are on the East coast now, you move out there for work? Come back to Cali and we can go wheelin Burt __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

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