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Chris H · 03-22-2005, 03:02 PM

Does anyone have access to the old Detroit NoSpin model designations?
I have seen the Eaton HO52/HO72 NoSpin locker unit labeled as a KS-10.
Does anyone know what application a NS-10 would fit?

Tractech, the current mfg. of the NoSpin/Detroit Locker does not have any info on their website, I will give them a call if I dont get an answer here.

Thanks, Chris

**Joesjunk** · 03-22-2005, 03:34 PM

Chris, Are you trying to ID that new locker you got?

Chris H · 03-22-2005, 03:39 PM

Guilty as charged...
ebay link here

sakohntr · 03-22-2005, 06:18 PM

Being as that model Detroit Locker was used in numerous applications, I am guessing that there is probably a difference in the bearing dimension or the axle spline compatibility. Do you have a known GM unit to measure the differences in? Maybe that is for a dana 60 or 14 bolt unit?

**JIMs70GMC** · 03-22-2005, 07:51 PM

If it was for anything but a 14 bolt or eaton it would have a case also. Talking light duty trucks 1 ton and down. One way the check would be to count the splines with out letting it come apart.

Chris H · 03-22-2005, 10:54 PM

You know, it kind of boggles my mind when I think of all the different trucks this "might" fit. Could be a Ford, IHC, AMC? Just about anything I guess.

Good catch Jim on the case, that does rule out Dana 60.
I am hoping for eaton HO72, or will settle for a 14FF!

At any rate, I was unable to hit the tech line from tractech, will try tomorrow.

Does anyone have the silver sticker on their glove box door or dash that says something like "This vehicle equipped with a Detroit NoSpin"? My new unit came with some generic install installations and this new sticker with model NS-10 on it.

And finally, from looking at this thing... If I put the unit in a vice, I should be able to hold the 2 halves together and count the axle splines right? How much pressure do the springs in one of these have?

Thanks all!
Chris

ps Bruce: hope you have a great drive down here, see you around 5am!

4x4Poet · 03-23-2005, 02:42 AM

Yo, yo, yo! Pull that wingnut and count the splines! Should be 17 for an Eaton H052.

**Joesjunk** · 03-23-2005, 03:56 AM

Chris, I forgot I had two "NoSpin" tags, one from a 68 and one from a 66. They both have a model # KS10 stamped on them. Hope this helps you.

Rod · 03-23-2005, 08:58 AM

If that's NOS , it's worth a few bucks ..did you see this ended auction recently. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6763

It has a KS10 on the box also. That should put a smile on your face.

It makes a difference how you list things on ebay. I didn't see it.

Theres is not such tremendous spring pressure in there, but it would fly apart...spring and piece would fly some. I can put them together by myself with just my weight to compress the unit together. Look for the 17 spline..then you'll know if it's for your C30.

Dean · 03-23-2005, 09:33 AM

I may have to dig some of my lockers out at that kind of price.....lol

CE20934 · 03-23-2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris H

Does anyone have access to the old Detroit NoSpin model designations?
I have seen the Eaton HO52/HO72 NoSpin locker unit labeled as a KS-10.
Does anyone know what application a NS-10 would fit?

Tractech, the current mfg. of the NoSpin/Detroit Locker does not have any info on their website, I will give them a call if I dont get an answer here.

Thanks, Chris

Maybe you'll get farther with them than I did.

I asked them, "I realize this hasn't been made in decades, but could you tell me what this fits?"

Their reply? "That has not been made for thirty years and I have no idea what it fits."

Real helpful, aren't they.

da-burb · 03-24-2005, 12:10 AM

14 bolt would have 30 splines if I remember right. Something I read somewhere which just could be a bunch of hooey. The locker for a 14 bolt or the HO/Eatons is interchangeable with the exception of the axel spline counts. I don't remember if the axels themselves were interchangeable from 14 bolt to HO and back......

Rod · 03-24-2005, 07:36 AM

Either way if its 17 spline or 30 spline..it can be used. 17 is correct...but let me know and I'll set you on the right path.

Chris H · 03-29-2005, 02:17 PM

I got an email back from Tractech today!
"We appreciate your interest in our products.
The NS-10 has been replaced by a 275S17. It fits old Dana and Clark axles with a diameter of 2.06" and 24 splines."
I looked on their application page, and it lists this as a Dana planetary D/DS-18/19xxx 1530. Anyone know what that is?

I guess I will end up re-selling this on ebay as I really have no use for such a unit.

CE20934 · 03-29-2005, 06:57 PM

Glad to see you got someone who actually cared to answer your questions.

1969 GMC · 03-29-2005, 09:22 PM

planetary axle is from something BIG. 2 inch axleshafts? yowza.

Rod · 03-29-2005, 10:23 PM

No-spins I thought were used in quite a few applications..before you list it..did you check the spline count yourself? Check with me before you sell it on ebay.

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 03-29-2005, 10:51 PM

I'll bet that's for one of the old 13,500-17,000lb single speed rears.

72MARIO · 03-30-2005, 06:45 PM

Would a a locker from a 72 Eaton fit a 73 14 bolt corp ?

**JIMs70GMC** · 03-30-2005, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Would a a locker from a 72 Eaton fit a 73 14 bolt corp ?

Yes and no. 14 bolt axles have different splines from the H072. So yes you could but it in the 14 bolts carrier but couldn't use the 14 bolts shafts, but supposedly the eaton shafts would work in the 14 bolt. Also, it is suppose to work the other way, 14 bolt no-spin in an eaton carrier w/ 14 bolt shafts.

72MARIO · 03-30-2005, 10:28 PM

Cool, I am glad I did not sell it. I have a Detroit locker and i am going to buy a 73 up 2wd 3/4 or 1 ton. Good to know it fits.

6T6 · 07-24-2012, 03:14 PM

I know this thread is very old.......but heres the sticker for KS-10.
It's in my 1966 C20.

TC

**yelmer** · 12-06-2012, 07:27 PM

sticker located behind the seat drivers side also there is a metal tag on the rear end by the yoke. is yours a 4.56 ratio ?

03-22-2005, 03:02 PM	#1
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	Detroit Locker / NoSpin id help? Does anyone have access to the old Detroit NoSpin model designations? I have seen the Eaton HO52/HO72 NoSpin locker unit labeled as a KS-10. Does anyone know what application a NS-10 would fit? Tractech, the current mfg. of the NoSpin/Detroit Locker does not have any info on their website, I will give them a call if I dont get an answer here. Thanks, Chris

03-22-2005, 03:34 PM	#2
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,689	Chris, Are you trying to ID that new locker you got? __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

03-22-2005, 03:39 PM	#3
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	Guilty as charged... ebay link here Attached Images

03-22-2005, 06:18 PM	#4
sakohntr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Floodwood Minnesota Posts: 1,057	i.d. Being as that model Detroit Locker was used in numerous applications, I am guessing that there is probably a difference in the bearing dimension or the axle spline compatibility. Do you have a known GM unit to measure the differences in? Maybe that is for a dana 60 or 14 bolt unit? __________________ 1967 K30 Napco 292/SM420 original paint 30k miles 1968 K60 Napco 396/5spd. dbl frame 52" michelins 1969 K10 SWB GMC 454/4spd 6" 35's posi,hooks 1972 C30 longhorn,BB/AT,A/C,Tilt,Toolbox,lokr 1987 K20 Chevrolet Suburban. 6" lift. 5.7L/TH400 1979 K60 GMC Coleman 4x4, 427/Allison.

03-22-2005, 07:51 PM	#5
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	If it was for anything but a 14 bolt or eaton it would have a case also. Talking light duty trucks 1 ton and down. One way the check would be to count the splines with out letting it come apart. __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm

03-22-2005, 10:54 PM	#6
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	You know, it kind of boggles my mind when I think of all the different trucks this "might" fit. Could be a Ford, IHC, AMC? Just about anything I guess. Good catch Jim on the case, that does rule out Dana 60. I am hoping for eaton HO72, or will settle for a 14FF! At any rate, I was unable to hit the tech line from tractech, will try tomorrow. Does anyone have the silver sticker on their glove box door or dash that says something like "This vehicle equipped with a Detroit NoSpin"? My new unit came with some generic install installations and this new sticker with model NS-10 on it. And finally, from looking at this thing... If I put the unit in a vice, I should be able to hold the 2 halves together and count the axle splines right? How much pressure do the springs in one of these have? Thanks all! Chris ps Bruce: hope you have a great drive down here, see you around 5am!

03-23-2005, 02:42 AM	#7
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	Yo, yo, yo! Pull that wingnut and count the splines! Should be 17 for an Eaton H052. __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

03-23-2005, 03:56 AM	#8
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,689	Chris, I forgot I had two "NoSpin" tags, one from a 68 and one from a 66. They both have a model # KS10 stamped on them. Hope this helps you. __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

03-23-2005, 08:58 AM	#9
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	If that's NOS , it's worth a few bucks ..did you see this ended auction recently. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6763 It has a KS10 on the box also. That should put a smile on your face. It makes a difference how you list things on ebay. I didn't see it. Theres is not such tremendous spring pressure in there, but it would fly apart...spring and piece would fly some. I can put them together by myself with just my weight to compress the unit together. Look for the 17 spline..then you'll know if it's for your C30.

03-23-2005, 09:33 AM	#10
Dean Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,492	I may have to dig some of my lockers out at that kind of price.....lol

03-24-2005, 12:10 AM	#12
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	14 bolt would have 30 splines if I remember right. Something I read somewhere which just could be a bunch of hooey. The locker for a 14 bolt or the HO/Eatons is interchangeable with the exception of the axel spline counts. I don't remember if the axels themselves were interchangeable from 14 bolt to HO and back...... __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

03-24-2005, 07:36 AM	#13
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Either way if its 17 spline or 30 spline..it can be used. 17 is correct...but let me know and I'll set you on the right path. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

03-29-2005, 02:17 PM	#14
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	I have the answer! I got an email back from Tractech today! "We appreciate your interest in our products. The NS-10 has been replaced by a 275S17. It fits old Dana and Clark axles with a diameter of 2.06" and 24 splines." I looked on their application page, and it lists this as a Dana planetary D/DS-18/19xxx 1530. Anyone know what that is? I guess I will end up re-selling this on ebay as I really have no use for such a unit.

03-29-2005, 06:57 PM	#15
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03-29-2005, 10:23 PM	#17
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	No-spins I thought were used in quite a few applications..before you list it..did you check the spline count yourself? Check with me before you sell it on ebay. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

03-29-2005, 10:51 PM	#18
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	I'll bet that's for one of the old 13,500-17,000lb single speed rears. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

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72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Would a a locker from a 72 Eaton fit a 73 14 bolt corp ? __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

03-30-2005, 10:28 PM	#21
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Cool, I am glad I did not sell it. I have a Detroit locker and i am going to buy a 73 up 2wd 3/4 or 1 ton. Good to know it fits. __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

07-24-2012, 03:14 PM	#22
6T6 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: SE AK Posts: 40	Re: Detroit Locker / NoSpin id help? I know this thread is very old.......but heres the sticker for KS-10. It's in my 1966 C20. TC Attached Images

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yelmer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: greeley colorado Posts: 1,360	Re: Detroit Locker / NoSpin id help? sticker located behind the seat drivers side also there is a metal tag on the rear end by the yoke. is yours a 4.56 ratio ?

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