Hid headlights?

[jrigheimer]

During my 800mile road trip I noticed that the headlight were really bad and most of the time I had to use the high beams to see anything, oncoming traffic loved it. I was thinking about a cheap hid conversion, I don't want blue or super white lights like the ricers just a light upgrade. I've been looking at this kit on amazon

Innovited AC 55W HID Xenon Conversion Kit With "Slim" ballast
Amazon.com: Innovited AC 55W HID Xenon Conversion...
Seems to be plug and play, comes with ballast and hid. Only thing I don't know is if on a 1972 c10 are the headlights sealed or can I change the bulbs no problem? Other than that seems to be a good deal the reviews are good too.

Also does anyone know what color or kelvin (k) these lights are, I kind of what a stock color like this

[TobyArnot]

First install a headlight relay kit to get full voltage to the lights. Then do your "conversion". This is what I used and they definitely brighten up the road
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http://www.rallylights.com/h6024-7-r...dlamp-kit.html

Opt for the 100W high beams(optionB). I can light up a green freeway sign at one-half mile.

[jrigheimer]

What is the difference between a relay and the ballasts

[TobyArnot]

A headlight relay sends full voltage to the lights and is controlled by the OEM switch. Most factory wiring is old and the resistance is way too high. The realy solves all of that. As you can likely tell, I'm not a big fan of the HID Zenon lights. IMHO, they just don't look right in these old vehicles, kinda like my opinion of 22" rims.

[Cris.sanchez3]

This is were I got mine they have lifetime warranty and work well

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121071715666?redirect=mobile

He has all the info you need on the color and if I'm not mistaken once you get the other non-sealed headlights the bulb you will need is h4

[Wreckless_71]

Originally Posted by Cris.sanchez3

This is were I got mine they have lifetime warranty and work well

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121071715666?redirect=mobile

He has all the info you need on the color and if I'm not mistaken once you get the other non-sealed headlights the bulb you will need is h4

Yes, the stockers are sealed type bulb. But the glass front H4 conversions and get a good set of silverstars. Or if you are really interested in HIDs get a 4500K or 5000K bulb. They are pure white with no blue color. The 4500K will be closer to the natural sunlight color.

[TDH1989]

Originally Posted by Cris.sanchez3

This is were I got mine they have lifetime warranty and work well

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121071715666?redirect=mobile

He has all the info you need on the color and if I'm not mistaken once you get the other non-sealed headlights the bulb you will need is h4

Your headlights are exactly what I've been searching for for my 67. What headlights did you have to go with to get this look. I know everyone has been talking about these jeep headlights

[skorpioskorpio]

Just so you know, HID is not a focused beam and requires a completely different reflector design. HID conversions (using a reflector intended for a prefocus halogen capsule) are specifically illegal at federal and many state levels and several companies selling these exact products have been fined heavily already.

Additionally you can search my posts, I've posted many times on the subject HID headlights in a huge 7" reflector is just dumb, HID exists to put a cooler light source in a smaller more aerodynamic (and typically plastic) package. It is not a better light source, quite the opposite, they create night blindness. HID will be entirely replaced by high output LED in less than 10 years and is already starting to be phased out. HID is to automotive lighting what plasma is to flat screen TVs, an inferior impractical technology to address a packaging problem (that we don't have), nothing more.

[Custom 68]

I just did a quick search so if you do that you will find tons of information. it is here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=507368

basically tho is continue to use a "conventional" non HID bulb setup there are several to choose from but then put the relays close to the front of the truck by the head lights, this will give you a full 12-14 volts this makes a huge difference in light output from where you are now. The balist is used in the HID conversions. you will get lots of negative input on a cheap conversion as they are not made correct and usually end up blinding the other drivers and not giving you any additional light since it is not in teh correct housing. do a couple searches and you will find it is best to do the relays and better newer sealed beams.

[WH0DAMAN]

Originally Posted by custom 68

i just did a quick search so if you do that you will find tons of information. It is here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=507368

basically tho is continue to use a "conventional" non hid bulb setup there are several to choose from but then put the relays close to the front of the truck by the head lights, this will give you a full 12-14 volts this makes a huge difference in light output from where you are now. The balist is used in the hid conversions. You will get lots of negative input on a cheap conversion as they are not made correct and usually end up blinding the other drivers and not giving you any additional light since it is not in teh correct housing. Do a couple searches and you will find it is best to do the relays and better newer sealed beams.

x2

[Custom 68]

so I am a slow typer...

[Underwoj]

nice Cris!! what color did u selecT?

[SS Tim]

We just did a thread on this last week. It is well worth reviewing.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...7&goto=newpost

Relays are the best place to start for most people.
Then either a sealed beam (silverstar) or a quality bulb conversion.

[catch2otwo]

If your going to go HIDs, please either do a projecter lamp conversion or a lens made for the HID. If not you will just scatteryour HID light everywhere, just like those pesky ricers and then oncoming traffic will really hate you. A properly setup HID/projector setup will have very crisp light cutoff to keep the light where its supposed to go.

Check out dapper lighting
http://www.dapperlighting.com/

[Matt Cramer]

Originally Posted by catch2otwo

If your going to go HIDs, please either do a projecter lamp conversion or a lens made for the HID. If not you will just scatteryour HID light everywhere, just like those pesky ricers and then oncoming traffic will really hate you. A properly setup HID/projector setup will have very crisp light cutoff to keep the light where its supposed to go.

This. A HID bulb has a totally different light output pattern and the reflector needs to be designed for it to get a good pattern. Putting a HID in a reflector meant for an H4 bulb tends to result in a pattern that's halfway between high beams and low beams with a little extra random light thrown all over the place.

[jrigheimer]

Where can I get a headlight relay, I'm not good enough with electrionic a to make one my self. I heard that painless makes a decent one but will it work for our trucks

[907lukeman]

i went this rout.
http://www.classicparts.com/Headlamp.../#.U0R45Siw6Ig
helped out a lot. just a plug and play

[jrigheimer]

Originally Posted by 907lukeman

i went this rout.
http://www.classicparts.com/Headlamp.../#.U0R45Siw6Ig
helped out a lot. just a plug and play

I think I will go this route thank you. I know how to solder and basics electronics but not like circuit boards and resistors.

[SS Tim]

Originally Posted by 907lukeman

i went this rout.
http://www.classicparts.com/Headlamp.../#.U0R45Siw6Ig
helped out a lot. just a plug and play

Since Classic is so sparse on details and pictures, what are you getting for $35. Is it a quality heavy gauge harness? Are the relay feeds fused? Is the instruction sheet any good or real basic?

[DreamRyder1963]

Also cheap in mind that a true HID bulbs are $100 a piece to replace. If you get a non sealed unit with 9003 or H4 bulbs you will be able to find one readily are at reasonable cost. I have 9003 ZXE (good white lights) bulbs in my 71 and I have more than enough light at night. All my vehicles will be getting them soon.

[Sacramento70]

Originally Posted by DreamRyder1963

Also cheap in mind that a true HID bulbs are $100 a piece to replace. If you get a non sealed unit with 9003 or H4 bulbs you will be able to find one readily are at reasonable cost. I have 9003 ZXE (good white lights) bulbs in my 71 and I have more than enough light at night. All my vehicles will be getting them soon.

This is not true. Your referencing high $ hids not true hids. They can be had for as little as $40 a pair

[jrigheimer]

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=281146739569

Will this work?

[SS Tim]

Instead of buying first, take the time to understand what you are doing.
In the other thread I posted the link to, included a link within to Daniel Stern's pages. There is very good reading there.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/tech.html

When it comes time to do anything to your truck start with the basics as we said in the other thread. Specifically grounds, wiring, connectors at the headlamp, head lamp switch and the dimmer switch.

Then once you are satisfied add in the relay kits, go quality.

After you have the relays then you can decide how much more you want to go. The great thing is incremented this way results in benefits and you can stop. Relays and cheap sealed beams are better than stock or deteriorated stock. Better sealed beams are the next step unless you want to jump directly to replaceable bulb headlamps.

Bottom line is learn before you spend. If you don't know anything about electrics get some help. Hoping an eBay bargin kit's instructions will solve all your problems is a bad start.

[Cape Codder]

If you learn how a relay works and understand it hooking it up will be obvious.

[Andy4639]

Putting relays in my truck was one of the easiest mods I've done. Your factory light connection is a 3 wire hook up. Low beam, high beam and ground for both.

-30 = constant [positive (+)] power (usually wired directly to car battery)
-85 = coil ground (wired to the negative (-) battery terminal or any grounded metal panel in the car)
-86 = coil power (wired to the control source. could be a switch, or it could be the car's IGN or ACC circuit.)
-87 = When you hit the headlight switch it sends power to this lead which in turn goes to the high are low beam of the head lights.

You will need 2 relays for the mod one for low beam one for High beam.