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Johns70 · 03-15-2009, 09:09 PM

well i figured id get started on replaceing some rusted out panels on my blazer. one of them being the front pillar patch, do you think a person should take the rocker box off? so you can get to the 4 bolts thhat go threw the front support and lower fender mounting bolt. thanks for the any help, john

packers05 · 03-15-2009, 10:16 PM

I just was planning rocker panel replacement and found pillars front and rear outer floor board was bad too, Had to cut out kick panel portion too, turned into $550 in patch panels and I now have many hours of panic fear confidence then panic again! still nowhere near done,I can send you pic of my project if you want.

Critter · 03-15-2009, 10:51 PM

Yep, pics would be good for us. As you might know, there will be considerably more rust hiding inside once you start pulling things apart. Usually it's an unpleasant suprise that most of us have experienced from time to time.

Johns70 · 03-16-2009, 12:14 AM

thats how it started for me just rockers and then it snowballed from there. im just not sure if i should open the can of worms more and take the rocker box off to get to the other panels better.cuase the rocker box is good.pics would be good.

vtblazer · 03-16-2009, 06:11 AM

Rust will hide, go looking for it now while your in there working.

Prepare yourself for what you might find though.

Example:
Pic 1, rocker in place and things look 'okay'.
Pic 2, removing the outer rocker proves different.

Your call.

Critter · 03-16-2009, 07:06 AM

I've had nightmares about VT's yellow blazer tub pictures. It's like a bad horror movie. Just when you think it’s safe to go back in the water, RUST pops out of nowhere and bites you on the @SS!

He is 100% correct though. I am somewhat new to the whole body work thing, but it is definitely a good idea to do whatever it takes to remove all the rust at once and be done with it. You will be much better off in the long run.

**raggedjim** · 03-16-2009, 10:38 AM

I got lucky and most of my boxes had already rusted away!

But even the parts that were left were a bear to remove. I don't have a clue how anyone could remove them without destroying them so if you do remove them you may be buying new ones.

A few horror pics... This is another one that looked ok before I tore into it. It actually had a rocker welded over the top of an another rocker!

Good luck, Rg

jaros44sr · 03-16-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raggedjim

I got lucky and most of my boxes had already rusted away!

But even the parts that were left were a bear to remove. I don't have a clue how anyone could remove them without destroying them so if you do remove them you may be buying new ones.

A few horror pics... This is another one that looked ok before I tore into it. It actually had a rocker welded over the top of an another rocker!

Good luck, Rg

Please no more pics. please, I'm having flashbacks

Amazing how PO's can weld a rocker over a rocker

Johns70 · 03-16-2009, 06:41 PM

well i got the rocker box off in one piece , a little twisted but useable.good thing i did front cab support is rusted.doesnt look as bad as some of your blazers but i think ill end up with just as many panals replaced. what sucks is the qulity of the triplus panels sucks, like the flanges arent as wide so you cant put the orig. bolts back in.

Critter · 03-16-2009, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johns70

...what sucks is the qulity of the triplus panels sucks, like the flanges arent as wide so you cant put the orig. bolts back in...

In that case, what manufacturer would you recommend for better fitting parts?

Johns70 · 03-18-2009, 11:34 AM

well i got two of these ordered,and some new front cab supports. i need to get out to the garage and take some pics.

Johns70 · 03-18-2009, 09:10 PM

heres some pics. got some progress done today,bad thing is i wont have the new front cab support intall the 23rd.need to figure out how to fab this one piece that nobody makes.

Johns70 · 03-18-2009, 09:17 PM

couple more

Johns70 · 03-18-2009, 09:26 PM

last pics, i found out the jimmy was rolled at one or another,that front pillar all the spot welds were broke.must have twisted pretty good

1tonblaze · 03-18-2009, 09:45 PM

chevy and rust what a wonderfull relationship of headaches . my blazers body was pacthed up with galv steel and pop rivets and bronze welds . i didnt have to cut off the old rockers i used a hammer to removed them thats how bad it was . the peice you have in the last 2 pics johns70 mine are rusted to nothing and i have to make them . does anyone know if they make a replacement panel for just that peice ????

Johns70 · 03-18-2009, 10:15 PM

nobody makes them, its actually part of the rear quater panel that ties it together with the inner quarter panel. I thought Wes with Classic Heartbeat was going to try have them made, but i never did hear if he did.

jaros44sr · 03-19-2009, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johns70

nobody makes them, its actually part of the rear quater panel that ties it together with the inner quarter panel. I thought Wes with Classic Heartbeat was going to try have them made, but i never did hear if he did.

Yep, he made them, s/b in stock by now

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-19-2009, 11:32 AM

Yes they have been done. They are slow coming out because they are hand made. $129.95 per side.

Johns70 · 03-19-2009, 11:42 AM

those look great wes, i may have to get a in person look at those in june.its easyier to talk the wife into purchaseing those if we are there in person.thanks for posting those up on the board. john

Twisted78SS · 03-19-2009, 12:03 PM

I got a good look at those just last week, they are Sweet!!!!!

I haven't looked closely at mine to see whether or not I'll need them, but I am certainly glad Wes has taken the initiative to produce these for all of us.

Bonus points for Wes!!

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-19-2009, 08:54 PM

Thanks guys. I try to get to the parts that nobody else seems to want to make.

WES

gottwake · 03-20-2009, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Heartbeat

Yes they have been done. They are slow coming out because they are hand made. $129.95 per side.

Did you say that someone makes this part now???
This is the exact part that I have been searching for!!

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-20-2009, 12:12 PM

Yes, we make the part and for now are the only supplier of them. WES

gottwake · 03-20-2009, 03:57 PM

can you post your link to that exact item? Thanks

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-20-2009, 04:14 PM

Here is the page it is on in our on-line catolog:
http://www.classicheartbeat.com/patch_panels2.htm
Here is a link to the discription:
http://www.classicheartbeat.com/cata...ar%20Patch.htm
WES

03-15-2009, 09:09 PM	#1
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	repair panel questions? well i figured id get started on replaceing some rusted out panels on my blazer. one of them being the front pillar patch, do you think a person should take the rocker box off? so you can get to the 4 bolts thhat go threw the front support and lower fender mounting bolt. thanks for the any help, john __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

03-15-2009, 10:16 PM	#2
packers05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: minonk illinois Posts: 224	Re: repair panel questions? I just was planning rocker panel replacement and found pillars front and rear outer floor board was bad too, Had to cut out kick panel portion too, turned into $550 in patch panels and I now have many hours of panic fear confidence then panic again! still nowhere near done,I can send you pic of my project if you want.

03-15-2009, 10:51 PM	#3
Critter Future TOTM Winner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bulverde, TX Posts: 2,692	Re: repair panel questions? Yep, pics would be good for us. As you might know, there will be considerably more rust hiding inside once you start pulling things apart. Usually it's an unpleasant suprise that most of us have experienced from time to time. __________________ 72 Chevy CST K5 HIGHLANDER BLAZER Getting a 6.0,NV4500,NP205,14BFF (Currently laying all over the place in little pieces) 72 Chevy swb step-side "LS" 6.0 Here's a build thread of sorts 2002 HD2500 Crew Cab, 8.1L Allison 4x4 Daily Driver Check it out www.lsdyno.com

03-16-2009, 12:14 AM	#4
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? thats how it started for me just rockers and then it snowballed from there. im just not sure if i should open the can of worms more and take the rocker box off to get to the other panels better.cuase the rocker box is good.pics would be good. __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project Last edited by Johns70; 03-16-2009 at 12:14 AM.

03-16-2009, 06:11 AM	#5
vtblazer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Vermont Posts: 8,538	Re: repair panel questions? Rust will hide, go looking for it now while your in there working. Prepare yourself for what you might find though. Example: Pic 1, rocker in place and things look 'okay'. Pic 2, removing the outer rocker proves different. Your call. Attached Images

03-16-2009, 07:06 AM	#6
Critter Future TOTM Winner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bulverde, TX Posts: 2,692	Re: repair panel questions? I've had nightmares about VT's yellow blazer tub pictures. It's like a bad horror movie. Just when you think it’s safe to go back in the water, RUST pops out of nowhere and bites you on the @SS! He is 100% correct though. I am somewhat new to the whole body work thing, but it is definitely a good idea to do whatever it takes to remove all the rust at once and be done with it. You will be much better off in the long run. __________________ 72 Chevy CST K5 HIGHLANDER BLAZER Getting a 6.0,NV4500,NP205,14BFF (Currently laying all over the place in little pieces) 72 Chevy swb step-side "LS" 6.0 Here's a build thread of sorts 2002 HD2500 Crew Cab, 8.1L Allison 4x4 Daily Driver Check it out www.lsdyno.com Last edited by Critter; 03-16-2009 at 07:07 AM.

03-16-2009, 10:38 AM	#7
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,449	Re: repair panel questions? I got lucky and most of my boxes had already rusted away! But even the parts that were left were a bear to remove. I don't have a clue how anyone could remove them without destroying them so if you do remove them you may be buying new ones. A few horror pics... This is another one that looked ok before I tore into it. It actually had a rocker welded over the top of an another rocker! Good luck, Rg Attached Images __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Last edited by raggedjim; 03-16-2009 at 10:48 AM.

03-16-2009, 06:41 PM	#9
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? well i got the rocker box off in one piece , a little twisted but useable.good thing i did front cab support is rusted.doesnt look as bad as some of your blazers but i think ill end up with just as many panals replaced. what sucks is the qulity of the triplus panels sucks, like the flanges arent as wide so you cant put the orig. bolts back in. __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

03-18-2009, 11:34 AM	#11
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? well i got two of these ordered,and some new front cab supports. i need to get out to the garage and take some pics. Attached Images __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

03-18-2009, 09:10 PM	#12
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? heres some pics. got some progress done today,bad thing is i wont have the new front cab support intall the 23rd.need to figure out how to fab this one piece that nobody makes. Attached Images __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project Last edited by Johns70; 03-18-2009 at 09:14 PM.

03-18-2009, 09:17 PM	#13
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? couple more Attached Images __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project Last edited by Johns70; 03-18-2009 at 09:20 PM.

03-18-2009, 09:26 PM	#14
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? last pics, i found out the jimmy was rolled at one or another,that front pillar all the spot welds were broke.must have twisted pretty good Attached Images __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

03-18-2009, 09:45 PM	#15
1tonblaze Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carroll County Maryland , Posts: 828	Re: repair panel questions? chevy and rust what a wonderfull relationship of headaches . my blazers body was pacthed up with galv steel and pop rivets and bronze welds . i didnt have to cut off the old rockers i used a hammer to removed them thats how bad it was . the peice you have in the last 2 pics johns70 mine are rusted to nothing and i have to make them . does anyone know if they make a replacement panel for just that peice ???? __________________ 1970 k/5 blazer--> money pit - 14bolt dana 44 350 sm465/205 36 14.50 16 tires 1972 nova plane jane 6 clyinder might sell might keep dont know 2004 chevy s-10 crewcab zr5 sold 1985 c20 chevy long bed , beater , on its way to a better place in pa from what the dmv told me 2010 kia forte koup 2.4 sx -over the river and threw the woods to the total lot it went . 1999 k1500 suburban 350 vortec 4l60e leather land yacht .

03-18-2009, 10:15 PM	#16
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? nobody makes them, its actually part of the rear quater panel that ties it together with the inner quarter panel. I thought Wes with Classic Heartbeat was going to try have them made, but i never did hear if he did. __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

03-19-2009, 11:32 AM	#18
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03-19-2009, 11:42 AM	#19
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: repair panel questions? those look great wes, i may have to get a in person look at those in june.its easyier to talk the wife into purchaseing those if we are there in person.thanks for posting those up on the board. john __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

03-19-2009, 12:03 PM	#20
Twisted78SS Wide n'Low Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: La Center, WA Posts: 1,511	Re: repair panel questions? I got a good look at those just last week, they are Sweet!!!!! I haven't looked closely at mine to see whether or not I'll need them, but I am certainly glad Wes has taken the initiative to produce these for all of us. Bonus points for Wes!! __________________ Trippin Hazard.. 67 swb, Gold Member.. 68 Suburban Air Force Retired

03-19-2009, 08:54 PM	#21
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	Re: repair panel questions? Thanks guys. I try to get to the parts that nobody else seems to want to make. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys Last edited by Classic Heartbeat; 03-20-2009 at 12:12 PM.

03-20-2009, 12:12 PM	#23
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	Re: repair panel questions? Yes, we make the part and for now are the only supplier of them. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

03-20-2009, 03:57 PM	#24
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03-20-2009, 04:14 PM	#25
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	Re: repair panel questions? Here is the page it is on in our on-line catolog: http://www.classicheartbeat.com/patch_panels2.htm Here is a link to the discription: http://www.classicheartbeat.com/cata...ar%20Patch.htm WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

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