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Litdave · 12-06-2004, 04:47 PM

I didn't want to hi-jack Peregines' thread on the looks of short bed vs long bed so I am starting another about traction.

Which one would hook better (for drag racing)? It seems like the short would have better weight transfer but the long has more weight to begin with.

gr8scott51 · 12-06-2004, 05:59 PM

You don't see them making funny cars shorter.

Staceydude · 12-06-2004, 07:33 PM

A shortbed would hook alot better than a longbed in most cases depending on suspension set up. If the suspensions were identical shortbed all the way IMHO.

Funny cars are not even part of the equation as they are setup totally different with the engine alot further back than stock.... They are longer for stability at speed.

Regards,

Stace

Peregrine · 12-06-2004, 11:30 PM

A long bed will track better, that much I know. I might be biased, but I'd say the LB would have the best weight transfer, just because there is more weight shifting to the rear. But honestly, I don't have a problem. When I launch my truck from first gear there is just this little chirp of the rears and then they stick like glue. MY friend Ranger I always race around with just spins the tires horrible when he gets on the gas. Of course, I have 80s Vette rims with huge meats in the back.

And 300 pounds of sand for winter.

Peregrine · 12-06-2004, 11:31 PM

After I thought about it, the SB would probably have better transfer. But, I still support my LB theory.

71-longbed · 12-06-2004, 11:34 PM

my 350's just stock ... so i'm not push any serious power ... but i hook up just fine ... once in a while it will chirp alittle between gears....

FirstGen · 12-06-2004, 11:48 PM

try 500 horse at the wheels and see how well that long bed hooks up...

Guys 71 · 12-06-2004, 11:59 PM

If i let out the clutch normal in my long bed and then punch it, it hooks just fine. I might hear a churp now and then but im only pushing about 300 hp and 327 ft. lbs. of torque followed by a m20 muncie 4spd and a 12bolt possi rearend. when i roll the clutch and punch it i cant seem to get the wheels to stop spinning. in my dads truck (1970 CST Short Wide) if i punch it, it seems to just churp but thats because he doesnt have a lot of hp. my truck is way faster. but dont tell him i said that, hes got a BB thats jumpin in his truck over x-mas break that will change all that. but i dont believe that it matters too much about short or long bed, i think it all depends on how much hp and what kind of tires you are using like size width slicks...

68CST327 · 12-07-2004, 12:13 AM

I always thought that longbeds would hook better because of the weight transfer. This is really the first time I've read about people thinking short beds had better traction. This and the other lwb vs swb thread.

glock35ipsc · 12-07-2004, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FirstGen

try 500 horse at the wheels and see how well that long bed hooks up...

Dude, you went for it!!! It's awesome to see those pics, congratulations!!!!! Looks like you did a helluva job too!

RON WOODGEARD · 12-07-2004, 01:36 AM

Think about it like a Gasser VS Rail..

It's going to take More HP to set a longbed up on it's front end..

It's the rear tires that become the fulcrum point.

Now you do the Physics and Math..

FirstGen · 12-07-2004, 05:38 AM

Thanks! I'm glad I got to have it pretty much done.

Yeah I couldn't ever see my goals of pulling the wheels with the long bed so... chop chop.

Peregrine · 12-07-2004, 01:01 PM

But just imagine the props you'd get if you got a longbeds wheels up? Wow, I'm having evil thoughts......

12-06-2004, 04:47 PM	#1
Litdave Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tullahoma, TN Posts: 203	Another Long bed vs short bed I didn't want to hi-jack Peregines' thread on the looks of short bed vs long bed so I am starting another about traction. Which one would hook better (for drag racing)? It seems like the short would have better weight transfer but the long has more weight to begin with. __________________ 71 Factory SWB 4x4 Project 383/350/205 69 LWB 2wd CST Daily Driver ZZ4/700r4/3.73 72 SWB Future Hot Rod

12-06-2004, 05:59 PM	#2
gr8scott51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 1,839	You don't see them making funny cars shorter. __________________ Silence is golden, duct tape is silver. - Scott

12-06-2004, 11:30 PM	#4
Peregrine Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 329	A long bed will track better, that much I know. I might be biased, but I'd say the LB would have the best weight transfer, just because there is more weight shifting to the rear. But honestly, I don't have a problem. When I launch my truck from first gear there is just this little chirp of the rears and then they stick like glue. MY friend Ranger I always race around with just spins the tires horrible when he gets on the gas. Of course, I have 80s Vette rims with huge meats in the back. And 300 pounds of sand for winter. __________________ Brian 72 C10 longbed 350/th400 Let the world change you and you will change the world.

12-06-2004, 11:31 PM	#5
Peregrine Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 329	After I thought about it, the SB would probably have better transfer. But, I still support my LB theory. __________________ Brian 72 C10 longbed 350/th400 Let the world change you and you will change the world.

12-06-2004, 11:34 PM	#6
71-longbed Its Magically Delicious Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 2,398	my 350's just stock ... so i'm not push any serious power ... but i hook up just fine ... once in a while it will chirp alittle between gears.... __________________ 71 C10 LWB 350sbc -TH350 12 bolt 3.42 Posi Of all my favorite things to do, The utmost is to have a brew. My love grows for my foamy friend, with each thirst-quenching elbow bend. Beer so frosty, smooth, and cold it's paradise pure liquid gold. Yes beer means many things to me that's all for now cus I gotta pee.

12-06-2004, 07:33 PM	#3
Staceydude Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: DFW Area Texas Posts: 436	A shortbed would hook alot better than a longbed in most cases depending on suspension set up. If the suspensions were identical shortbed all the way IMHO. Funny cars are not even part of the equation as they are setup totally different with the engine alot further back than stock.... They are longer for stability at speed. Regards, Stace

12-06-2004, 11:48 PM	#7
FirstGen Just Don't Stop! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,239	try 500 horse at the wheels and see how well that long bed hooks up... Attached Images __________________ 1968 C10 build in process TT LSA/6L90e/9" Last edited by FirstGen; 12-06-2004 at 11:53 PM.

12-06-2004, 11:59 PM	#8
Guys 71 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pittsburg, California Posts: 12	If i let out the clutch normal in my long bed and then punch it, it hooks just fine. I might hear a churp now and then but im only pushing about 300 hp and 327 ft. lbs. of torque followed by a m20 muncie 4spd and a 12bolt possi rearend. when i roll the clutch and punch it i cant seem to get the wheels to stop spinning. in my dads truck (1970 CST Short Wide) if i punch it, it seems to just churp but thats because he doesnt have a lot of hp. my truck is way faster. but dont tell him i said that, hes got a BB thats jumpin in his truck over x-mas break that will change all that. but i dont believe that it matters too much about short or long bed, i think it all depends on how much hp and what kind of tires you are using like size width slicks... __________________ Guys 71 350/Muncie 4 spd. Son of 1970 CST Short Wide

12-07-2004, 12:13 AM	#9
68CST327 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 443	I always thought that longbeds would hook better because of the weight transfer. This is really the first time I've read about people thinking short beds had better traction. This and the other lwb vs swb thread.

12-07-2004, 01:36 AM	#11
RON WOODGEARD Resident Young Old Dude ! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,948	Think about it like a Gasser VS Rail.. It's going to take More HP to set a longbed up on it's front end.. It's the rear tires that become the fulcrum point. Now you do the Physics and Math..

12-07-2004, 05:38 AM	#12
FirstGen Just Don't Stop! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,239	Thanks! I'm glad I got to have it pretty much done. Yeah I couldn't ever see my goals of pulling the wheels with the long bed so... chop chop. __________________ 1968 C10 build in process TT LSA/6L90e/9"

12-07-2004, 01:01 PM	#13
Peregrine Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 329	But just imagine the props you'd get if you got a longbeds wheels up? Wow, I'm having evil thoughts...... __________________ Brian 72 C10 longbed 350/th400 Let the world change you and you will change the world.



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