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**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 10:36 AM

Sunday and Monday night I got most of the insulation done on the cab. Laid the carpet in the floor yesterday morning and got out last night to get more done.

These are the 98 Silverado 40/20/40 seats I will be using.

Here are a couple pics of the brackets I am using to mount the seats. My intent was to reinforce the floor to some extent due to the fact that these seats have the integrated seat belts. The mounting holes on these seats do not match the existing holes so what I did was add these plates to the top of the floor and then I have also made three plates that go under the floor.

There is a section of C channel welded to the front bracket that the middle seat attaches to.

Underneath the truck I have this plate that is in the raised area below the front bracket.

Then I have two additional plates that both go perpendicular to this plate. One is about 5" wide and connects the front seat bracket to the rear seat bracket nearest to the transmission. Then I have a plate that is about 1 1/2" wide that connects the front seat bracket to the rear seat bracket nearest to the door. My intent is that with these brackets tied together from the bottom of the floor to the top of the floor, I have reinforced the floor where the seats bolt in.

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 10:37 AM

Here are the door panels I made a while back. I finished them in the seat material so that ought to blend well together. Martha Stewart ain't got nothing on me.

I laid the carpet in yesterday morning

Then when I got home last night I got out my new handy dandy box knife and cut out the insulation over the kick panel air vents.

A few nights ago I cut a tile backing board to use for carpeting the rear cab wall. I got the carpet glued on that board last night and looks very nice. I considered just gluing the carpet to the back wall but thought a smooth appearance would be better.

I'm not sure how I will secure it. I could get carriage bolts and just use the upper holes that secured the gas tank. However, I think I will try to get some heavy duty velcro or something similar so there is no hardware showing on the carpeted side.

For the kick panels I decided not to go with the premade carpet panels. Instead, I bought extra carpet and cut it to fit. I left extra on the bottom and sides so the floor carpet will sit on the excess and make it very seamless.

For the vent holes I will probably cut the carpet so I can use the excess to flow into the visible portion of the vent hole. Hopefully I can do that and make it look halfway decent.

Overall I am very excited with how the carpet is turning out. I have one area on the passenger side near the hump that is bunched up as a result of the firewall modification. Not sure what I will do about that at this time. Probably won't get out to do more work until next week but I am ready to get the seats bolted down.

Here's a last shot as I'm an

bc gman · 03-24-2005, 10:38 AM

Looking good when you put the carpet in was your garage warm ?

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 10:41 AM

No. The floor carpet is just sitting in there right now - hope to get a warm evening when I actually go to bolting the seats down so I can get the carpet to fit best. Last night was just a test fit of the floor carpet.

oj70chevy · 03-24-2005, 10:54 AM

great info. I am also getting ready to install carpet in my 70c/10

. keep us posted.

GreyHoundSteve · 03-24-2005, 11:01 AM

Man that looks great. Awesome job on the brackets!

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 11:06 AM

Thanks. There has been alot of talk about the safety of using these type of seats in our 67-72 trucks. I can't say that what I have done is the best or sufficient reinforcement so I would recommend that anyone considering these seats with the integrated seatbelts should do some searching in the past threads and decide for yourself whther to use those seats and how to bolt them down.

GreyHoundSteve · 03-24-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Jack

Thanks. There has been alot of talk about the safety of using these type of seats in our 67-72 trucks. I can't say that what I have done is the best or sufficient reinforcement so I would recommend that anyone considering these seats with the integrated seatbelts should do some searching in the past threads and decide for yourself whther to use those seats and how to bolt them down.

I have 04 trailblazer seats with integrated seat belts i am planning to put in my 67 and i have the same concerns and plan to make similar brackets to reinforce the floor. My seats will be even more difficult though because the bracket on one side sits about 4" lower than the other and i am having to chanel one side into the cab floor. Your brackets give me some ideas on how to mount mine. Thanks for the pics and post.

shifty · 03-24-2005, 12:57 PM

I really, really dig the gauge cluster. I mean, everything else seriously kicks ass also, but the dash cluster is the one thing that really screamed out to me when it's contrasted against the paint and carpeting.

How much did you spend on the gauges and where'd you get them? Got any closeup pictures of the gauge cluster?

Curbstone Mech · 03-24-2005, 01:18 PM

outstanding! Great idea using the backer board to make a smooth appearance- I'll be staeling that idea for my truck in a few days.Hope you don't mind.

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 01:27 PM

Here's a pic of the gauges installed.

I got all the gauges from Jeg's and aren't that expensive when you look at their individual price but together you easily wrap up about $450 or so in them

shifty · 03-24-2005, 01:29 PM

Sorry to go off-topic again, but do you happen to have the part #'s for the gauges still? I haven't managed to find a thread at the forum yet which gives anything like that...

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 01:33 PM

I used the Phantom series as follows:

Speedo 5895
Oil pressure 5829
Tach 5898
Water temp 5837
Voltmeter 5891
Clock 5885

shifty · 03-24-2005, 01:34 PM

Thanks! Finally, some direction .... Probably going to end up doing them two by two, but anything is better than nothing...

**Canadian694x4** · 03-24-2005, 01:38 PM

Great Work Yukon! Keep us posted! Great Pics and Info!

barn9 · 03-24-2005, 01:56 PM

Lookin' good Mark! That June deadline is nearing, AGAIN! LOL!

71-longbed · 03-24-2005, 02:18 PM

Is that a molded carpet kit ??

krue · 03-24-2005, 02:29 PM

Looks good!

nathank · 03-24-2005, 03:01 PM

Lookin gooooood!!
What is the shiny silver stuff you put down before the carpet? Where do you get it and how much is it?

Striker169 · 03-24-2005, 03:08 PM

wow that is a really clean install nice ++

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 03:21 PM

The carpet is molded to fit from Tim Christian. The insulation is from Home Depot and is a foil type insulation. A few other guys here have used it so I thought I would give it a try. I think the name was Reflective Insulation and it is a fairly heavy duty bubble wrap sandwiched between the top and bottom layer of foil. I bought the roll that is 4' wide but I can't remember the length. Seems like it was about $40.00. I will have to see if I have the receipt.

nathank · 03-24-2005, 04:40 PM

Does the foil insulation act as a good sound dampner (road noise) or what is the reason for it?

**Yukon Jack** · 03-24-2005, 04:44 PM

It appears it will quiet down the cab but I don't expect it to do the job that products like Brownbread and Dynomat are designed for. This should be better than stock but by no means am I expecting it to be as good as the more expensive products.

shifty · 03-24-2005, 04:49 PM

Dynamat and other sound deadeners work on the principle of sticking weight directly to the panel to reduce vibration of the panel. If the shiny stuff in that picture is as light as bubble wrap and it isn't directly adhered to the entire surface of the panel, all it's going to do is block heat, not sound.

I read in another thread where someone got Dynamat or some other type of acoustic matt in a very large amount for around $100.

69 Short Fleet · 03-24-2005, 04:53 PM

Your truck is looking really good Yukon, keep it up! One thing I thought I'd mention (maybe you already thought of it) Are you going to put a stereo amp or subs/speakers in the future? Now would be a good time to prewire it before the carpet gets installed. I forgot to do mine and will pull it apart down the road when I get there, Doug

03-24-2005, 10:36 AM	#1
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Insulationg and carpeting Sunday and Monday night I got most of the insulation done on the cab. Laid the carpet in the floor yesterday morning and got out last night to get more done. These are the 98 Silverado 40/20/40 seats I will be using. Here are a couple pics of the brackets I am using to mount the seats. My intent was to reinforce the floor to some extent due to the fact that these seats have the integrated seat belts. The mounting holes on these seats do not match the existing holes so what I did was add these plates to the top of the floor and then I have also made three plates that go under the floor. There is a section of C channel welded to the front bracket that the middle seat attaches to. Underneath the truck I have this plate that is in the raised area below the front bracket. Then I have two additional plates that both go perpendicular to this plate. One is about 5" wide and connects the front seat bracket to the rear seat bracket nearest to the transmission. Then I have a plate that is about 1 1/2" wide that connects the front seat bracket to the rear seat bracket nearest to the door. My intent is that with these brackets tied together from the bottom of the floor to the top of the floor, I have reinforced the floor where the seats bolt in. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14 Last edited by Yukon Jack; 06-24-2010 at 11:09 AM.

03-24-2005, 10:37 AM	#2
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Here are the door panels I made a while back. I finished them in the seat material so that ought to blend well together. Martha Stewart ain't got nothing on me. I laid the carpet in yesterday morning Then when I got home last night I got out my new handy dandy box knife and cut out the insulation over the kick panel air vents. A few nights ago I cut a tile backing board to use for carpeting the rear cab wall. I got the carpet glued on that board last night and looks very nice. I considered just gluing the carpet to the back wall but thought a smooth appearance would be better. I'm not sure how I will secure it. I could get carriage bolts and just use the upper holes that secured the gas tank. However, I think I will try to get some heavy duty velcro or something similar so there is no hardware showing on the carpeted side. For the kick panels I decided not to go with the premade carpet panels. Instead, I bought extra carpet and cut it to fit. I left extra on the bottom and sides so the floor carpet will sit on the excess and make it very seamless. For the vent holes I will probably cut the carpet so I can use the excess to flow into the visible portion of the vent hole. Hopefully I can do that and make it look halfway decent. Overall I am very excited with how the carpet is turning out. I have one area on the passenger side near the hump that is bunched up as a result of the firewall modification. Not sure what I will do about that at this time. Probably won't get out to do more work until next week but I am ready to get the seats bolted down. Here's a last shot as I'm an __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14 Last edited by Yukon Jack; 06-24-2010 at 11:10 AM.

03-24-2005, 10:38 AM	#3
bc gman 71 bb longhorn Join Date: May 2004 Location: Surrey B.C Canada Posts: 170	Looking good when you put the carpet in was your garage warm ? __________________ 71 2500 Gmc longhorn with a 402 turbo 400. 09 F150 Supercrew 4x4 05 Mazda 6 sport accept that somedays you are the statue and somedays you are the pigeon.

03-24-2005, 10:41 AM	#4
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	No. The floor carpet is just sitting in there right now - hope to get a warm evening when I actually go to bolting the seats down so I can get the carpet to fit best. Last night was just a test fit of the floor carpet. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

03-24-2005, 10:54 AM	#5
oj70chevy 250 V-6 Club Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San antonio, TX. Posts: 898	great info. I am also getting ready to install carpet in my 70c/10 . keep us posted. __________________ 1970 Chevy C/10 6 Cyl. 43k original miles all factory .http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=197523 Never ask a stupid question unless you want a stupid answer .

03-24-2005, 11:01 AM	#6
GreyHoundSteve Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: DFW TX Posts: 769	Man that looks great. Awesome job on the brackets!

03-24-2005, 11:06 AM	#7
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Thanks. There has been alot of talk about the safety of using these type of seats in our 67-72 trucks. I can't say that what I have done is the best or sufficient reinforcement so I would recommend that anyone considering these seats with the integrated seatbelts should do some searching in the past threads and decide for yourself whther to use those seats and how to bolt them down. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

03-24-2005, 12:57 PM	#9
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	I really, really dig the gauge cluster. I mean, everything else seriously kicks ass also, but the dash cluster is the one thing that really screamed out to me when it's contrasted against the paint and carpeting. How much did you spend on the gauges and where'd you get them? Got any closeup pictures of the gauge cluster? __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-24-2005, 01:18 PM	#10
Curbstone Mech Active Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Carroll County Maryland Posts: 300	outstanding! Great idea using the backer board to make a smooth appearance- I'll be staeling that idea for my truck in a few days.Hope you don't mind. __________________ 68 short fleet 383 stroker, 700r4 373:1 posi 72 GMC 3/4 ton- weekly driver 700r4 351;1 posi

03-24-2005, 01:27 PM	#11
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Here's a pic of the gauges installed. I got all the gauges from Jeg's and aren't that expensive when you look at their individual price but together you easily wrap up about $450 or so in them __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14 Last edited by Yukon Jack; 06-24-2010 at 11:11 AM.

03-24-2005, 01:29 PM	#12
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Sorry to go off-topic again, but do you happen to have the part #'s for the gauges still? I haven't managed to find a thread at the forum yet which gives anything like that... __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-24-2005, 01:33 PM	#13
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	I used the Phantom series as follows: Speedo 5895 Oil pressure 5829 Tach 5898 Water temp 5837 Voltmeter 5891 Clock 5885 __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

03-24-2005, 01:34 PM	#14
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Thanks! Finally, some direction .... Probably going to end up doing them two by two, but anything is better than nothing... __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-24-2005, 01:38 PM	#15
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	Great Work Yukon! Keep us posted! Great Pics and Info! __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

03-24-2005, 01:56 PM	#16
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	Lookin' good Mark! That June deadline is nearing, AGAIN! LOL! __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.



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03-24-2005, 02:18 PM	#17
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03-24-2005, 03:01 PM	#19
nathank resident geek Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dusty West Texas Posts: 77	Lookin gooooood!! What is the shiny silver stuff you put down before the carpet? Where do you get it and how much is it? __________________ 71 C-10 stepper 88 Moostang T-Top w/ lots of goodies

03-24-2005, 03:08 PM	#20
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	wow that is a really clean install nice ++

03-24-2005, 03:21 PM	#21
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	The carpet is molded to fit from Tim Christian. The insulation is from Home Depot and is a foil type insulation. A few other guys here have used it so I thought I would give it a try. I think the name was Reflective Insulation and it is a fairly heavy duty bubble wrap sandwiched between the top and bottom layer of foil. I bought the roll that is 4' wide but I can't remember the length. Seems like it was about $40.00. I will have to see if I have the receipt. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

03-24-2005, 04:40 PM	#22
nathank resident geek Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dusty West Texas Posts: 77	Does the foil insulation act as a good sound dampner (road noise) or what is the reason for it? __________________ 71 C-10 stepper 88 Moostang T-Top w/ lots of goodies

03-24-2005, 04:44 PM	#23
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	It appears it will quiet down the cab but I don't expect it to do the job that products like Brownbread and Dynomat are designed for. This should be better than stock but by no means am I expecting it to be as good as the more expensive products. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

03-24-2005, 04:49 PM	#24
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Dynamat and other sound deadeners work on the principle of sticking weight directly to the panel to reduce vibration of the panel. If the shiny stuff in that picture is as light as bubble wrap and it isn't directly adhered to the entire surface of the panel, all it's going to do is block heat, not sound. I read in another thread where someone got Dynamat or some other type of acoustic matt in a very large amount for around $100. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-24-2005, 04:53 PM	#25
69 Short Fleet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 1,086	Your truck is looking really good Yukon, keep it up! One thing I thought I'd mention (maybe you already thought of it) Are you going to put a stereo amp or subs/speakers in the future? Now would be a good time to prewire it before the carpet gets installed. I forgot to do mine and will pull it apart down the road when I get there, Doug

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