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Sticky situation
I thought I would be brave and pull out the front windshield and replace it since I had luck with the rear (but the stainless molding was a pain). I found the La Brea Tar Pits under the gasket. It looks like they used the sticky stuff for gasketless windows to keep it from leaking? Is there any easy way to get this stuff off? On the good side, the rust is less than I expected for all the leaking the window did.
Thanks Guys
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Re: Sticky situation
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Re: Sticky situation
4 inch grinder with a wire wheel and face shield. Then clean up with lacquer thinner.
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Re: Sticky situation
Second for the grinder and some time invested.
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Re: Sticky situation
Good old liquid butyl.......Engine gasket scrapper will work about as good as anything, spray it with a foaming glass cleaner and it will not be as sticky.
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Re: Sticky situation
Thanks guys,
I'll try the grinder with the wire wheel. Just hope I don't track any butyl in the house or I'll be sleeping in the cab without the windshield. Jay
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Re: Sticky situation
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Re: Sticky situation
I need to replace my gacket too if you dont mind I would like to know whos gasket you got and how things go mine has the trim also...I had it out to repair the rust but the gasket is shot to say the least....I have done a few windshields with a piece of #10 wire and plenty of sylicone..
thanx jeff
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Re: Sticky situation
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I only use the "Precision" brand windshield gaskets. If Steele Rubber Products makes one it would be a good one too. LockDoc
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Re: Sticky situation
who carry's them..I would imgine you shopped them??
Jeff
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Re: Sticky situation
I got my gasket from Classic Industries for about 34.99. Part #pw 1025. I was made by Precision, but I threw the bag out and don't have their part number.
My glass I got local ![]() Jay
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Re: Sticky situation
Hmmm I guess I'll check the local shop my buddy just had a new windshield put in his Ford cost him $225...I think its worth a 100 for them to own it!! If I break it or bend up the trim it will cost me alot more...guess I'll get a quote..at least that's free and then I can get the A/C tinted winshield which it should of had to start??
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Re: Sticky situation
I would think any vendor would have them. I get my stuff from "Arts Classic Truck Parts" here in Iowa. He's local to me so I can pick them up.
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Re: Sticky situation
The old original glass is alot thicker. The new ones are much easier to break due to not being as thick. These w/s were prone to leaks from day one and as an old glass man I always sealed them. It is much easier without the chrome but these are not easy installs either way. Back glass is a piece of cake. DO NOT use silicone as a lube for the gasket!!! It is slick but is a painters nightmare, fish eye city! (same for armor-all).
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Re: Sticky situation
Ohh, pooh.
I most likely will have to add something to keep my thin Chinese windshield from leaking. What would be a good filler? Jay
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Re: Sticky situation
Thanks Hayhauler. I used your suggestion. 10k of unbalanced wire wheel was a lot of fun, though. I looked like a pin cushion when I was done. I'm still pulling broken wires out of my shirt and pants. I really lucked out with so little rust.
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Be sure and dig that old sealer out if the body seams and put in new. That is where it will leak if you don't. LockDoc
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Re: Sticky situation
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Yes with the factory seals they do not need any sealer, I do windows and windshields for a living and If using sealer can cause more issues then with out on these old windshields and factory seals. |
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Re: Sticky situation
Thanks LockDoc and Jeffs70. I bought a tube of 3M all around auto body sealer for the seams and almost have the old all dug out (dental pick time). Also, do I put the molding in the gasket before or after the window is in the truck? And is it easier to start the rope from the top or the bottom of the gasket?
Jay
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Re: Sticky situation
I always start the wire on the bottom its much easier to work the top near the end and when you place the glass the bottom is half done already....
but I want to hear about the seam choice ...I don't want to do mine again either and with my new interior I would just asoon not have it leak and risk breaking it a second time
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Here's for the trim from GMCPaul: Install trim in rubber seal and make sure its fully seated in its groove then install rubber on glass and again make sure trim stayed fully seated in seal, then install windshield. Deluxe windshield seal with trim, always use a 71-72 seal with 71-72 SS trim, and 67-70 always use a 67-70 seal with SS deluxe trim. ---------------------------------------------- There two styles of trim and each one takes a different rubber seal. That is what Paul is talking about above. I would suggest at least 3 people to install a windshield with trim, 4 would be better. LockDoc
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Jay, The seals are the same except for the depth of the groove. LockDoc
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Re: Sticky situation
I just installed my windshield two weeks ago with help from the glass guy (I say that cause the glass guy wasn't doing a very good job). We had to put the rubber around the glass first, then install the trim into the rubber. After that we started with rope in the groove. We started at the top center and pulled the upper corners in first. The glass guy had said that most people leave the top for last and that usually breaks the glass. The top corners don't flex much and its easier to put them in first, than work your way down the sides and then bottom. It took the two of us about 3-4 hours to get in installed with the trim. (It took the glass guy an hour fooling with the rubber trying to get it and the trim installed onto the glass. It was alot easier to put rubber on, then the trim then install).
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