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61 apache rear
does anybody know what rear i can put in my truck that matches stock one
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Re: 61 apache rear
The only one that will match is one from another 60-62. No others will fit with out some modifying basicly new axle seats or saddles, and a panhard rod. The 60-62 have a difrent frame then 63-66 . Keep this in mind if you order a panhard ( some call it a trac rod) or an axle kit from CPP , they will not work with a 61.
Why are you swapping yours out?
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Re: 61 apache rear
i have a 61 and have a newer gm 12 bolt in mine
here is some pics
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Re: 61 apache rear
I've just bought a '62 C-10 with the 3.90 rear gears, and I already own a 1968 12 bolt with 3.07 gears.
Is it just a panhard rod mod to swap?
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Re: 61 apache rear
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Re: 61 apache rear
Well, the odds of finding a 60-62 GMC in Maine are a little low, but I'll keep looking. Do ALL GMC 1/2 tons have the Dana rear?
I am able to weld, and cut, how hard is it to just alter the 12 bolt?
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Re: 61 apache rear
Just curious-wouldn't a '62 with an automatic have better gearing? I'm too lazy to dig out my book to check. I'm thinking of getting a 60-62 (1/2T)automatic rear to put in my '61 3/4T, and getting the spindles off the same truck to make it a 1/2T truck.
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Re: 61 apache rear
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Ray Last edited by raycow; 07-22-2010 at 07:38 AM. |
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Re: 61 apache rear
I bolted a 1971 rear axle in my 60 last summer without any modifcations
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Re: 61 apache rear
I would just move the trailing arm mounts on the '68 12 bolt, add a panhard bar mount, and put that 12 bolt under your truck.
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Re: 61 apache rear
What is the width difference for the trail arm mounts? I guess I could measure the 62, but I haven't even picked it up yet. That'll be another story....
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I have a Ford 8.8 Rear End that will mount up to a 1962 Chevy Pickup....
3.08 Same 1960 -- 1962. But I am in NC. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=326263
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Re: 61 apache rear
Apparently, the 3.38 gears are now being reproduced.
http://www.classicparts.com/1955-62-...ctinfo/93-513/ If you add the cost of installation parts (bearings, seals, etc) and have to pay someone to set them up, I don't know if it's such a good deal. I installed an overdrive transmission for less than the gears alone cost. A rear end swap would certainly cost less even if you paid someone to do the welding. Ray |
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Re: 61 apache rear
I have a 1960 Chevy Apache c30 I am having a hard time trying to find out what rear I have in this truck. I do know its geared 4.88. I want to be able to run faster than 45.
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Re: 61 apache rear
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If you post a picture it's easy to tell if you have an Eaton; the rear cover is perfectly round and it's a third member type with a welded steel housing instead of cast. |
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Re: 61 apache rear
Check the casting numbers on the center section.
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Re: 61 apache rear
I will take a picture in a few minutes the old man may have been wrong on his numbers. When you swapped in the 4.10 third member how did your I am assuming 235 like it? Its a panel sorry for leaving that out.
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Re: 61 apache rear
Here's a picture of one of mine showing the Eaton rear:
![]() Mine has had the 4.10 in it since I bought the truck. I bought it with a 283 and recently swapped in a 250 six; SM420 ("granny") four speed behind both. I also have fairly large (32" tall) 235/85R16 rear tires. It does pretty good overall IMO. FWIW, 45MPH is 2,000RPM, 55MPH is a little over 2,400RPM, and 70MPH is a little less than 3,100RPM (I normally drive 55 or 60-65MPH). Does good driving around by itself; towing (around 12,000LBS gross combined weight the times I've done it--7,000LB or so trailer) it does ok, but doesn't like hills all that much (which is to be expected IMO). |
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Re: 61 apache rear
I have dubbed her the name of Slow Ride. I just bought a tach to put in it so I am unable to tell you the rpms she is turning but I do know that she is wide open doing 45 and is screaming at 50. I usually only run about 40 so the cabin noise is minimal and I can still talk to my passenger. The truck is stock as can be. The only thing I have wanted to change to the drive line was the rear end. Now that I know that I can just swap the third member that will make her dreams of running out on the highway come true. But I have looked and it doesnt seem that aftermarket is favorable to that eaton. Do you have any idea where I can find a 4.10 at so I can ditch the 5.13
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Re: 61 apache rear
I have a trilogy of pictures from finding her in a barn up until now I can upload sometime this weekend if you are interested.
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