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Hottrucks · 01-27-2010, 05:47 PM

it seems we all want Big ponies...fuel mileage not being an issue what do you think could be built to run everyday on pump ( say mid grade ) fuel...also must be able to run everyday??

I want the cady transplant and understand that the new 572 would be sweet but who has $12k to spend on a motor

??? so lets try to keep the build within reason .....

I have seen some blown motors that seem like they may do it??
yea I want my cake and to be able to haul it too??well how about enough to peal the ds front up a bit

swb85 · 01-27-2010, 06:31 PM

Horsepower costs money......how fast can you afford to go? If $12k is too much, what's your budget? $3k? $6k? Any engine platform or strictly BBC?

Hottrucks · 01-27-2010, 07:01 PM

anything that will fit between the fenders...bugets are a joke lets say $5000

northern 85 · 01-27-2010, 07:53 PM

http://www.bigalstoybox.com/turnkey.htm

Ont67shortbox · 01-27-2010, 08:06 PM

Shaffiroff racing engines

Marv D · 01-27-2010, 10:01 PM

If you want pump gas, driveability and go really freeking fast,, TURBO is all I'm gonna say. It's pretty freeking amazing what there doing with turbos now.

Have a canuk buddy with a thunderchicken that drives 80 miles one way on DOT sticky's, clicks off high 8's @ 160 and drives home. Carm is plain NUTZ without a doubt, but roughly 1000HP SBC that can drive 80 miles on pump gas,, add some octane at the track and run that fast is simply amazing to me. Agreed he's not driving a truck or carrying that weight,, but still........

djracer · 01-27-2010, 10:03 PM

The LS motors make big power for a reasonable price tag.

Hottrucks · 01-27-2010, 10:35 PM

Kevin what are you hiding???

those are nice #'s

djracer · 01-27-2010, 10:55 PM

Not hiding a thing. You can see the pass at the link in my signature. I have been down for a long time but I hope to have it back out soon and should improve a bunch. I'm adding 80 cubic inches and more spray.

**americanmusc1e** · 01-27-2010, 11:27 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-88890534/

start with this and add speed parts as you get the money, it's a pretty good price for an all-forged bottom end and 502 cubic inches

or you could go with a tried and true 383, a good one with a scat crank and h-beam rods shouldn't cost you over about $$3000 if you stay with a flat-tappet and iron heads. or for a bit more you could go all out with a roller cam and AFR heads ....................or start with this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DRT-31161211/ and build a 400

Wild83C10 · 01-28-2010, 11:16 AM

SBC with a turbo. You can have everything you asked for with this combo. Cheap (within reason), reliable, power and even some decent mileage.

If you run an EFI setup and a boost controller you can have adjustable power at the turn of a knob. There is one company that make a fuel sensor or system that can detect the type of fuel you are running and it will adjust the pressure ect based on the fuel type. You want to run E85, C16, 93 octane, go ahead you don't have to make any adjustments.

Of course a SBC with EFI and turbo is more then $5k but can be done for less then $12k and you should have better numbers. If you only had $5k then I would consider a BBC.

Wild83C10 · 01-28-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by americanmusc1e

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-88890534/

start with this and add speed parts as you get the money, it's a pretty good price for an all-forged bottom end and 502 cubic inches

That combo would be perfect for a BBC turbo setup, or even through on some nice heads/intake and that motor would put down some nice numbers.

ripdog28 · 01-28-2010, 09:31 PM

From what i have seen, you can not beat the Blue Print engines for price and power

Hottrucks · 01-28-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ripdog28

From what i have seen, you can not beat the Blue Print engines for price and power

Dam those are some good #'s with a 30 month 50,000 mile war.??? ...

I have a very good race engine shop (nascar/busch engines) localy if I could find a good package I'm sure they could do all the machine work..I have no problem doing the assembly..then bringing it back to them to do the break in and some dyno pulls If they know its going in my old truck that will go a mile ....it will be something different and maybe put a little fun back in to the shop

travo77 · 01-28-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottrucks

anything that will fit between the fenders...bugets are a joke lets say $5000

with the right amount of money anything can fit under the hood of these trucks thats why i like them

skoffice · 01-31-2010, 02:23 AM

I'm a firm believer in the LS engines, extremely reliable, respond well to modifications, plus you get mileage. Get yourself an LQ9(3500), standalone wiring harness(500), high pressure fuel pump/system(600), conversion engine mounts and flex plate(200) and your in business. Start there, later put a cam/springs/pushrods in(600), carb intake(700), P&P the heads(500), full exhaust(500). You can start off with the stock engine at 400 horses and with all the mods I listed, end up with probably just over 500.

*C-10 simplex* · 01-31-2010, 02:36 AM

i'm also a turbo fan. Considering the price of a new Silverado, i feel these 2 are very good values:

Nelson and Banks both have turnkey twin turbo SBC's for 26-27K. Considering the hp 800-1000, i feel these prices are very reasonable. This is an engine you could use for daily transportation.

onlyifihadachevy · 02-01-2010, 12:33 AM

You could get a 572 720hp for 12k, so that twin turbo seems crazy. But what about ridinhighs build, he belives to get more than 500hp in a 489 or 486 stroker, for under 5k. not a turn key but would be nice and could have built.

sav300 · 02-01-2010, 01:35 AM

Well if you had a bigger budget you could have the best of both worlds and buy the Banks Duramax crate engine. You would have all the torque in the world and economy to boot.

OR

You could get extremely wild, Banks has the Duramax marine motor that is blown and twin turboed. Take off the existing bell housing, change the watercooled exhaust manfolds, and water cooled turbo housing, then your on your way to a one of a kind BEAST!!

Thomas

Pyrotechnic · 02-01-2010, 01:56 AM

5.3L, 4L80E, turbocharged. It seems small, but it will get better gas mileage than a 6.0L when cruising around with the boost turned off. With an intercooler and alcohol/water injection you could run a decent amount of boost on premium fuel.

swb85 · 02-01-2010, 12:29 PM

^^^Those little 5.3's are tough as nails too. We have a local guy that has a junkyard 150k mile 5.3, mild cam, 76mm turbo and th400 in a mid 80's RX7. Granted the thing is gutted and stupid light (2600lbs race weight), but it goes high 9's at 144mph in the 1/4 mile on mild boost.

Alex1 · 02-01-2010, 08:16 PM

SBC with a turbo is a nice set up - I was doing the turbo thing, but a Procharger F3 fell on my lap...

You will pay big bux for high HP turn keys.

Burb · 02-12-2010, 05:54 PM

Well I have a new Blueprint 383 forged w/ Dart alum heads @ 9.5 to 1
Dyno : 438hp/474 lbs tq and I love it and the warranty ... best $6k I ever spent.

This is my daily driver, but the latest plans are showing a Garrett GT40 in it's future.

... just changed the 500 mile break-in oil ...

djracer · 02-12-2010, 06:08 PM

any pics

Burb · 02-12-2010, 07:21 PM

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Yellow wires are gone now ... Custom MSD in Billet wire looms
will have newer pictures soon.

01-27-2010, 05:47 PM	#1
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	big Hp thats turn key?? it seems we all want Big ponies...fuel mileage not being an issue what do you think could be built to run everyday on pump ( say mid grade ) fuel...also must be able to run everyday?? I want the cady transplant and understand that the new 572 would be sweet but who has $12k to spend on a motor ??? so lets try to keep the build within reason ..... I have seen some blown motors that seem like they may do it?? yea I want my cake and to be able to haul it too??well how about enough to peal the ds front up a bit __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

01-27-2010, 06:31 PM	#2
swb85 On a budget like Fred Sanford Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 2,031	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? Horsepower costs money......how fast can you afford to go? If $12k is too much, what's your budget? $3k? $6k? Any engine platform or strictly BBC? __________________ '85 Silverado swb: 383 stroker, 10.5:1, vortec heads, 232/238 roller cam, RPM air gap, performer 750 carb, stainless longtubes, 3" duals/super 44's, T56/4.11 383ci build / exterior refresh thread '98 Camaro z28: 370ci twin turbo 370ci build '01 Tahoe LT 4x4: 5.3, longtubes/ory, magnaflow duals, custom tune....wife's DD

01-27-2010, 07:01 PM	#3
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? anything that will fit between the fenders...bugets are a joke lets say $5000 __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

01-27-2010, 07:53 PM	#4
northern 85 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfield Maine Posts: 1,759	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? http://www.bigalstoybox.com/turnkey.htm

01-27-2010, 08:06 PM	#5
Ont67shortbox Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 279	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? Shaffiroff racing engines

01-27-2010, 10:01 PM	#6
Marv D Registered Truck Offender Join Date: May 2008 Location: hells training ground (aka Ariz) Posts: 3,118	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? If you want pump gas, driveability and go really freeking fast,, TURBO is all I'm gonna say. It's pretty freeking amazing what there doing with turbos now. Have a canuk buddy with a thunderchicken that drives 80 miles one way on DOT sticky's, clicks off high 8's @ 160 and drives home. Carm is plain NUTZ without a doubt, but roughly 1000HP SBC that can drive 80 miles on pump gas,, add some octane at the track and run that fast is simply amazing to me. Agreed he's not driving a truck or carrying that weight,, but still........ __________________ Still playin with trucks, even at my age! When you're dead, it's only a problem for the people around you, because you don't know you're dead. .....It's kinda the same when your STUPID. I just did my taxes and reviewed my SS statement. Thanks to the current administration it looks like I will only have to work till noon on the day of my funeral.

01-27-2010, 10:03 PM	#7
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? The LS motors make big power for a reasonable price tag. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

01-27-2010, 10:35 PM	#8
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? Kevin what are you hiding??? those are nice #'s __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

01-27-2010, 10:55 PM	#9
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? Not hiding a thing. You can see the pass at the link in my signature. I have been down for a long time but I hope to have it back out soon and should improve a bunch. I'm adding 80 cubic inches and more spray. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

01-27-2010, 11:27 PM	#10
americanmusc1e Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,079	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-88890534/ start with this and add speed parts as you get the money, it's a pretty good price for an all-forged bottom end and 502 cubic inches or you could go with a tried and true 383, a good one with a scat crank and h-beam rods shouldn't cost you over about $$3000 if you stay with a flat-tappet and iron heads. or for a bit more you could go all out with a roller cam and AFR heads ....................or start with this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DRT-31161211/ and build a 400 __________________ -- Josh Instagram: @americanmusc1e OLD SKOOL-- 1970 C10. 454/Th400/3.07 posi Build Thread FARM TRUCK----1949 Chevrolet 3800 Power Wagon Hauler Build Thread 1999 4wd OBS Tahoe - daily. DM me if you can't see photos i posted Last edited by americanmusc1e; 01-27-2010 at 11:31 PM.

01-28-2010, 11:16 AM	#11
Wild83C10 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 910	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? SBC with a turbo. You can have everything you asked for with this combo. Cheap (within reason), reliable, power and even some decent mileage. If you run an EFI setup and a boost controller you can have adjustable power at the turn of a knob. There is one company that make a fuel sensor or system that can detect the type of fuel you are running and it will adjust the pressure ect based on the fuel type. You want to run E85, C16, 93 octane, go ahead you don't have to make any adjustments. Of course a SBC with EFI and turbo is more then $5k but can be done for less then $12k and you should have better numbers. If you only had $5k then I would consider a BBC. __________________ 83 C10 Stepside (SOLD, it was a blast!) 383 MASS-FLO EFI/TKO II 600/3.90 Posi 10 bolt S475 and C4 DM running, fine tuning turbo= Douchebag Racing: Runs Fine all the Time

01-28-2010, 09:31 PM	#13
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? From what i have seen, you can not beat the Blue Print engines for price and power __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.

01-31-2010, 02:23 AM	#16
skoffice Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 375	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? I'm a firm believer in the LS engines, extremely reliable, respond well to modifications, plus you get mileage. Get yourself an LQ9(3500), standalone wiring harness(500), high pressure fuel pump/system(600), conversion engine mounts and flex plate(200) and your in business. Start there, later put a cam/springs/pushrods in(600), carb intake(700), P&P the heads(500), full exhaust(500). You can start off with the stock engine at 400 horses and with all the mods I listed, end up with probably just over 500. __________________ 1964 C10 Shortened Shortbed Cammed LQ9 P&P 1967 C10 Trophy Truck BB 438 (soon to be worked on again)

01-31-2010, 02:36 AM	#17
C-10 simplex Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: indisclosed Posts: 1,515	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? i'm also a turbo fan. Considering the price of a new Silverado, i feel these 2 are very good values: Nelson and Banks both have turnkey twin turbo SBC's for 26-27K. Considering the hp 800-1000, i feel these prices are very reasonable. This is an engine you could use for daily transportation.

02-01-2010, 12:33 AM	#18
onlyifihadachevy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: seaside,ca Posts: 778	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? You could get a 572 720hp for 12k, so that twin turbo seems crazy. But what about ridinhighs build, he belives to get more than 500hp in a 489 or 486 stroker, for under 5k. not a turn key but would be nice and could have built. __________________ 72 gmc 2500 2wd drive convert My 72 thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=346712 THe other truck, wheeler 69 1/2 4x4, yellow and rusty. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=350300 Last edited by onlyifihadachevy; 02-01-2010 at 12:35 AM.



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02-01-2010, 01:35 AM	#19
sav300 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hermsiton, Oregon Posts: 100	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? Well if you had a bigger budget you could have the best of both worlds and buy the Banks Duramax crate engine. You would have all the torque in the world and economy to boot. OR You could get extremely wild, Banks has the Duramax marine motor that is blown and twin turboed. Take off the existing bell housing, change the watercooled exhaust manfolds, and water cooled turbo housing, then your on your way to a one of a kind BEAST!! Thomas Last edited by sav300; 02-01-2010 at 01:35 AM.

02-01-2010, 01:56 AM	#20
Pyrotechnic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,930	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? 5.3L, 4L80E, turbocharged. It seems small, but it will get better gas mileage than a 6.0L when cruising around with the boost turned off. With an intercooler and alcohol/water injection you could run a decent amount of boost on premium fuel. __________________ 1977 GMC Sierra Grande

02-01-2010, 12:29 PM	#21
swb85 On a budget like Fred Sanford Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 2,031	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? ^^^Those little 5.3's are tough as nails too. We have a local guy that has a junkyard 150k mile 5.3, mild cam, 76mm turbo and th400 in a mid 80's RX7. Granted the thing is gutted and stupid light (2600lbs race weight), but it goes high 9's at 144mph in the 1/4 mile on mild boost. __________________ '85 Silverado swb: 383 stroker, 10.5:1, vortec heads, 232/238 roller cam, RPM air gap, performer 750 carb, stainless longtubes, 3" duals/super 44's, T56/4.11 383ci build / exterior refresh thread '98 Camaro z28: 370ci twin turbo 370ci build '01 Tahoe LT 4x4: 5.3, longtubes/ory, magnaflow duals, custom tune....wife's DD

02-01-2010, 08:16 PM	#22
Alex1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ottawa Ontario Canada Posts: 1,156	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? SBC with a turbo is a nice set up - I was doing the turbo thing, but a Procharger F3 fell on my lap... You will pay big bux for high HP turn keys.

02-12-2010, 05:54 PM	#23
Burb Coordinator of Synchronicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West of Houston, TX Posts: 437	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? Well I have a new Blueprint 383 forged w/ Dart alum heads @ 9.5 to 1 Dyno : 438hp/474 lbs tq and I love it and the warranty ... best $6k I ever spent. This is my daily driver, but the latest plans are showing a Garrett GT40 in it's future. ... just changed the 500 mile break-in oil ... __________________ Rick 1971 Suburban ... W.I.P. *Build Thread* Customization is ones personal touch-- not what other people think it should be

02-12-2010, 06:08 PM	#24
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? any pics __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

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Burb Coordinator of Synchronicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West of Houston, TX Posts: 437	Re: big Hp thats turn key?? [IMG][/IMG] Yellow wires are gone now ... Custom MSD in Billet wire looms will have newer pictures soon. __________________ Rick 1971 Suburban ... W.I.P. *Build Thread* Customization is ones personal touch-- not what other people think it should be Last edited by Burb; 02-12-2010 at 07:28 PM.

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