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Bluburb winter? project
So I am starting a rust elimination program on my Suburban. After 23
years the repaint and previous rust repair are failing. The spots showing on the quarter panels made me take a closer look at everything underneath, and it's not pretty. Turns out the exterior is only the tip of the iceburg. Much more serious damage pics in my next post. |
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
here are the pics showing serious issues. The rear most support under the tail gate is rusted badly, the left side is slightly collapsed, where the body mount is located the frame rail rotted out. The support near the gas tank which bolts the floor to the frame is in the same condition. The floor stiffening support is rotted out but may be salvageable. Finally the body support behind the second row seat has a lot of damage but where the body mounts are looks solid. So given all that my first question to the group is, has anyone used bed supports from a wood bed pickup to replace their Suburban floor members?
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
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My '67 Panel is showing the same thing. I need to get busy on it. Good luck with your repairs going forward. .
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
LockDoc, do the panels use a plywood floor also? Or planks like a pickup.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
I have removed all the bolts from the plywood floor, the spare tire well is out. I cut the small piece of plywood out of the right front area near the center seat, it was warped from rust jacking. Loosened all the body mounts and attempted to lift the rear of the body to remove the crushed rubber mounts at the rear most support. The body wouldn't raise at all. I think I need more jacks to spread the load further forward
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
I may have some of the cross members depending on which ons you end up needing. I am in MD. If you need any measurements just let me know.
The floor is plywood and is in 2 pcs. The 2nd pc is in front of the passenger wheel well.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
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My '67 has plywood.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
richard2717 do you have Suburban supports I would need all of them front to rear. I only have one out of the truck now, I will post a pic tomorrow. And get some measurements
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Looking forward to seeing more. I'll need to make some popcorn and grab a Porter. There's going to be lots to see!
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Don't expect too much excitement, I don't work as fast as some of the people on this board, you included. Whats Porter? asks the east coast guy.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
I sent you some pictures by 2 separate emails. Let me know if you do not get them.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Even slow progress is exciting. I'm sure I'll learn from your progress.
And a Porter
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
This is the first support I've managed to remove, slid out thru the wheel well. It's not terrible but looks like it would be hard to weld to, quite crusty in spots have to see if I can grind into some good metal
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
richard2717 did not see email yet, some times my T-mobile is slow to deliver so i will check again in a little bit
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Quote:
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Members I have met. Dually Jams, OlBlue60, ScottH, Tommyboy24, Dujobo, Warbucket, 2003 Silverado, Notsolo, my90k5, 6t727t2, Special-K ,Jack_71C10, tabarcus,72blazer_mud_bogger,pwdcougar,RSavage,EricSean,1Rippen6,invicta455,tennaragtop71,arks, Kendal,Bennett68C10, Perpendicular, Chainsawman, McGeesCustomMinis,ShortbedClayton,longblue72,6768chevylover,Tim71,Travisarmenta,Ol' Drippy,fleetmitch,georgieb51,Dave,bcnya2,Dadsburb https://paypal.me/6772GMtruckparts Most women like the strong, silent type… Fortunately for me, my wife prefers the out-of-shape, mouthy type. |
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
more pics of support
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
It does appear to be a wee bit thin in places.
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Did a little more work on the Suburban today. Decided not to attempt to remove the floor in one piece, so I cut it in line with the fuel fill hump. Took out the support which mounts to frame and bolts to plywood, its toast, hope to get replacement from Richard2717. now that I can see top of frame, it's worse than I thought. I think I need to address this first and secure the back of the truck before I can get into other area's.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
more pictures
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
ouch. are you trying to repair this frame or swap it with another one?
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
I am really not up to a frame swap. I am going to try sectioning in some better frame rails, if I can find some. It should work out ok, I never put heavy loads in the bed. Just got to hold the sheet metal up.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Ohh! That got serious quickly. Fortunately Richard2717 has chimed in. He's good people and has helped me a bunch on my Burban. Keep posting, we're definitely interested in your progress.
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Looks like Richard has what I need. Hope to pick up parts at months end. I am cleaning up parts until that happens.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Well got back to working the Suburban this week. Picked up some parts from Richard the end of January on the way to Florida, got home and I'm back at it. Took out the remaining plywood, even shortened, it requires a bit of twisting and turning. Made up a fixture to hold the back of the frame rails for when I do the cut off. Started to clean up the replacement frame rails, and cut off a piece to practice welding, my 90 amp mig may not be up to this repair, I could not get it to over head weld. I will work on my technique and see if It's me and not the machine. First picture is the left rear inner quarter panel behind the wheel, I am just amazed at how good it is and the frame rail is gone.
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Re: Bluburb winter? project
Best wishes on the repairs, hopefully it can be done one piece at a time, maybe even make or get parts or make templates before removing them if you can while you practice your welding. It's shocking what you find on a nice looking and driving classic sometimes, but this is well worth it.
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