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Old 05-20-2014, 01:16 PM   #1
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ID front subframe

Hey gang,

I recently purchased a 58 Apache fleetside. It has a unknown front subframe under it. I am looking to purchase some new suspension parts but would like to nail down what exactly I should be buying parts for LOL.

In some photos from searching online it looks like a 2nd gen Camaro/firebird subframe but the tie down points in the frame don't match up depending on the pictures I look at (the holes in the frame where the steering box bolts to).

Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 05-20-2014, 01:29 PM   #2
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Re: ID front subframe

Maybe a Nova or other GM N-body equivalent from the 70's which would be almost the same as a 70's area front steer Camaro / Firebird
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Old 05-20-2014, 02:06 PM   #3
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Maybe a Nova or other GM N-body equivalent from the 70's which would be almost the same as a 70's area front steer Camaro / Firebird
Not a 70s Nova as the steering box is in the wrong location.

Edit: 76 Nova had a steering box up front, hard to find decent pictures though.

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Old 05-20-2014, 02:37 PM   #4
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Re: ID front subframe

Nova, Camaro, etc are designated as X body.

Hard to tell from the pics, but the spindle doesn't look like X Body- maybe G (Monte Carlo)?
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Looks like Nova didn't get the front steer until '75. I thought it changed to front steer in '70 like the Camaro. Chevelles were always front steer thought
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:03 PM   #6
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If you can find the casting numbers on the spindles, an internet search might get you there. Good Luck

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Old 05-21-2014, 10:29 AM   #7
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Looks like Nova didn't get the front steer until '75. I thought it changed to front steer in '70 like the Camaro. Chevelles were always front steer thought
I own a 72 Chevelle, had a good look at mine however the factory a-arms do not match along with the upper control arm support/shape.

Ill see if I can find some casting numbers on the spindles.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:08 AM   #8
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Re: ID front subframe

Single piece spindles mark it as a 73 and up as the earlier Chevelles, Camaros and Novas had bolt on caliper brackets. I'm thinking 73/77 Firebird, Camaro or G body. The fatter sway bar may mean big block car or Trans AM, at least it looks fatter in the photos.

The way it is spliced is the way they did a lot of G body stub swaps.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:25 AM   #9
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Couple more pictures






The best I can get a measurement is guessing with a tape measure, roughly 58" hub to hub
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:26 AM   #10
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As you can tell the tires are flat, I have no air compressor and the floor jack wasn't working that is in the garage(not my garage)
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When you said 58" hub to hub that made me think of G-body as they are 58" from wheeling mounting to wheel mounting surface but the upper control arms aren't arched like the G-bodies I have seen
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:52 AM   #12
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yea I noticed that too. Im starting to think it is a 78 Nova clip... Off to the nova site to go through build threads hahah
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