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Old 04-09-2007, 04:57 PM   #1
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WOW! That's how they SHOULD have looked from the factory. Great job!
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I know you've got time and money invested in your struts and cables, but you should take the whole rear makeover one step further and weld the tailgate to your liftgate and make it one big liftgate like the modern tahoes/burbs. Ditch the lower hinges, use bigger struts (probably at a different geometry), and you can use the original latches and button.

Every time I go to Costco in mine I and have to reach over the tailgate to load/unload I think about doing that (not a fan of barndoors).

Maybe I'll have to be the guinea pig on that one since you pioneered this one
I thought about that, but at this point I don't want to back up. Have you thought about making it open from the side and bottom like the caprice wagons? (pics below) That would be pretty sweet!

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Looks sweet.

I'm in Savannah this weekend taking care of wedding plans for later this year, or I'd open our house up to you or office a place to crash out for the night. If I can ever get this thing running, then get the clutch taken care of so it's rolling, first trip I'm taking is to see the parents down in FL, and your place is "almost" on the way

In all seriousness, do any of the panhandle/FL members get together with the AL and MS members for meets, camping trips or anything like that?
Give me a call when you're headed down. There's a weekly cruise in on Sat night at one of the Burger King's, but that's about it.

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WOW! That's how they SHOULD have looked from the factory. Great job!
Thanks, that's what I was going for.

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I got the drivers side filler piece made for the tailgate. Should have it welded in tomorrow.....
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:22 PM   #3
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That back end looks awsome. It's going to look great after paint
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I've decided to change my color scheme...................













JK, . Just playing around with a can of spray paint.
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Heh, looks like you're gonna need more body massaging and filler than I thought there, bud
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Heh, looks like you're gonna need more body massaging and filler than I thought there, bud
Yeah, I got my shrinking disc today, maybe that will help. If not, my buddy, Mr. Bondo, can help, . How did the trip to Savannah go? I picked up a project truck to finish my CrewCab this weekend in Augusta. It came with a set of F-body manifolds. Is that what you ended up using? Do you have any pics. OBTW, your truck sounds great! Looking forward to seeing pictures of the fuel system, as I haven't started on that other than my ECE tank.
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How did the trip to Savannah go?
finalized the menu for food, picked the florist and the arrangements and decided on table/placement stuff (she handled all this), looked at places for rehearsal dinner - overall, got a lot accomplished.

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I picked up a project truck to finish my CrewCab this weekend in Augusta. It came with a set of F-body manifolds. Is that what you ended up using?
Yup. Manifolds from a '98 f-body. And - btw - stoked that I fired up the truck, thanks! I really don't have too much time invested in the swap, so naturally I'm stoked

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Do you have any pics.
Tons. See sig for gallery or my buildup thread - in the gallery and buildup thread, you should find the manifold stuff somewhere between pages 5-8, I think. If you need more, let me know.

For the gallery, here are the 2001 manifolds, which I couldn't make fit w/o notching:

http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...album=9&page=7

here are the '98 manifolds -

http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...album=9&page=8

note that only one has a heat shield, and they fit way better - rear O2 sensor on the stock cat (passenger side) does bump the bellhousing, but it doesn't hurt anything.


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Looking forward to seeing pictures of the fuel system, as I haven't started on that other than my ECE tank.
Will do. I really, really do NOT like the Vetter FPR/Filter setup, quite honestly. I think it is flimsy at best, and I think I will upgrade to an inline filter and aftermarket FPR in the near future because of it.

There is one small picture of the fuel system from my blackberrry ... I posted it over in my LS1tech thread on page 9 (again - see sig).

If you personally need any help, wiring diagrams, specific pictures....let me know. Hell, if I can, I'll drive down and help out, but you might need to trade for room and board for the night, and it'll need to be on a weekend Now that I've been there and done that, hindisght being 20/20, I feel pretty confident I could knock one out the next time around pretty easy.

Are you going to install a fuel pressure gauge on your fuel rail like I did?
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finalized the menu for food, picked the florist and the arrangements and decided on table/placement stuff (she handled all this), looked at places for rehearsal dinner - overall, got a lot accomplished.

Yup. Manifolds from a '98 f-body. And - btw - stoked that I fired up the truck, thanks! I really don't have too much time invested in the swap, so naturally I'm stoked

Tons. See sig for gallery or my buildup thread - in the gallery and buildup thread, you should find the manifold stuff somewhere between pages 5-8, I think. If you need more, let me know.

For the gallery, here are the 2001 manifolds, which I couldn't make fit w/o notching:

http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...album=9&page=7

here are the '98 manifolds -

http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...album=9&page=8

note that only one has a heat shield, and they fit way better - rear O2 sensor on the stock cat (passenger side) does bump the bellhousing, but it doesn't hurt anything.


Will do. I really, really do NOT like the Vetter FPR/Filter setup, quite honestly. I think it is flimsy at best, and I think I will upgrade to an inline filter and aftermarket FPR in the near future because of it.

There is one small picture of the fuel system from my blackberrry ... I posted it over in my LS1tech thread on page 9 (again - see sig).

If you personally need any help, wiring diagrams, specific pictures....let me know. Hell, if I can, I'll drive down and help out, but you might need to trade for room and board for the night, and it'll need to be on a weekend Now that I've been there and done that, hindisght being 20/20, I feel pretty confident I could knock one out the next time around pretty easy.

Are you going to install a fuel pressure gauge on your fuel rail like I did?
HOLY COW!!! I don't know how I missed your photo album (just looked at all 158 pictures!). That's some good stuff, there. I check your LS1 link quite often, but didn't realize you were keeping pictures elsewhere. I plan on running a in-tank pump and an inline fuel filter. Don't the truck LS1's have an internal regulator? Not sure about the fuel pressure gauge. I wanted to put one in the cab, but a 65 PSI wet line guage didn't seem to safe, . Did you run the cats for a reason? I'm going to eliminate them if possible. So with the 98 F-Body manifolds (and ECE motor mounts) you don't have to cut the frame? When are you going to do the A/C? Your welcome any time (you have to drive the truck though, ). Hopefully you can handle 3 kids and a dog, .
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PS -
I believe the truck engines actually have a fuel pressure regulator built into the rail - I had a discussion about this with someone here at the forum recently, but I forgot what years this is true with (2003+?) in the trucks. On the truck intakes (might be specific years) if there are both the feed and return lines on the fuel rail, then there is no need for a fuel pressure regulator because its already built in to the fuel rail itself.

I've been pretty religiously taking pics of the swap, and trying to keep them in my signature everywhere so I don't get 50 requests a week for pics of crap

I ran the cats for two reasons: a) open headers are too noisy and b) i didn't want to delete my rear O2 sensors (i want all 4 to benefit in the MPG dept.). They'll stay until I figure out something creative for exhaust.

With the ECE mounts and 98 f-body headers, I didn't need to cut the frame - the fitment is like ... so perfect, that it was like it was absolutely meant to be. They are not the prettiest things in the world, but man, ... it's like marrying a chick with a hot body and an ugly face, y'know?

A/C is the last thing on my mind right now. I keep the truck in covered parking all the time, so it shouldn't be too necessary. Weather up here is nothing like what I had down in Gainesville (damned swamp!) or any other place in FL I'd lived over half my life, so ...

Kids love me. I love dogs.

As for the fuel pressure gauge - before you fire up, you need to obviously setup the fuel pump relay and kick the key forward, make sure you have 50psi to the rail (hence the gauge on the rail), and while it's pressurized, check all of your fittings for leaks. This is a good reason to think long and hard about where your fittings will be. I found one at the S&P fitting for the line coming out of the FPR/Filter, tightened it down, but still get a little leak, so I guess I need to remove and teflon tape

Anyway, on the topic of safe in-the-cab solutions, read this - someone at LS1tech shared it with me:

http://www.thirdgen.org/fuelgauge

Read on for more info.

Part numbers I used and sources are here:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...9&page=1&pp=20

Hope that helps, bud
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:05 AM   #10
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Wow, damn, that looks amazing. Came out better than I thought it would look (not in fit and finish, but the actual look). Arse loads better than OE

Whats with the chevy station wagon pics? You gonna do the tail gate to open side ways and down?
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Wow, damn, that looks amazing. Came out better than I thought it would look (not in fit and finish, but the actual look). Arse loads better than OE

Whats with the chevy station wagon pics? You gonna do the tail gate to open side ways and down?

Thanks for the compliment! I can't wait until it is painted. It would be cool to make it work like the wagon, but I don't want to add another 2 months to the project.

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You only want to paint it once ... and think about how COOL it would be!!
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I got the body to door edge built up for the drivers side of the tailgate. Also cut in body to tailgate gap. It's fairly close and will only need a little more fine tuning.
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(I may need to bite my tongue on this) I looks fairly simple after looking at it. So on the passenger side of the door, the bottom latch acts as a hinge for when it folds down too? I guess you could steal the latches from one. But I guess getting all the linkage, and hinging motion to be smooth and strong would take ages of tinkering.
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Got a couple of hours this evening. I finished up the drivers side tailgate lip. Then I built the jam for the passengers side. Should be able to finish up the passenger side tailgate lip tomorrow. Then it will be ready to pull the body off of the chassis. I still have a little more metal work to finish, but it will be easier to do with it on a rotissierre. Finally some light at the end of the tunnel!!!!!!!!!!!
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Passenger Side...... and a look at what it should look like in the same color of paint.
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Tailgate is pretty much done except for adding bear claw latches. PCMCobrba came over and I got to test fit a set of 20" Coys. Looks like I'm going to need 4" backspacing to get the tires I want on there (these were 5") I also picked up a nice set of ralleys from him just in case I get bored with the "shiny" wheels.
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wow.... lotsa patience, and lotsa work space = results like these.

good job. i'll get those trim measurements for you today...
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Damn it! That looks too good not to do... Now you've added to my list Any chance we can see it with the back bumper on and full rear view with both gates closed?

And what are your plans for the tail light and taigate trim?

I'm going with Coy C5's too. Maybe 22x9 for the rear though We'll have to talk offset and tire sizes. Are those the polished?

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wow.... lotsa patience, and lotsa work space = results like these.

good job. i'll get those trim measurements for you today...
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I'm going with Coy C5's too. Maybe 22x9 for the rear though We'll have to talk offset and tire sizes. Are those the polished?
It was a lot of work, but I think the result is going to be well worth it. 95% of the people that look at it won't know the difference, but that's kinda the point.

The wheels are polished. I used a wheel/tire measuring tool that I got from Mike at MuscleRodz. I came out with a 4" backspacing on a 20 X 10 wheel. PCMCobras were 5 or 5 1/2" backspacing. He had them mounted on a 86 SWB.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=240811

I think the difference being 1970 and back rearend are inch or so (I think) shorter on each side. Here's a link to his wheels. If I would have been thinking, I probably should have bought them for the CrewCab, , .

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Rob,
Looks outstanding... I see there's 3 burb guy's eyeing up the same wheel. I'm with Mike on the 22 X 9 for the rear. If I could stop working sooooo much, maybe I could work on my burb & get something finished.

Anyone given anythought on how to do hidden hinges on the upper liftgate?
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Damn it! That looks too good not to do... Now you've added to my list Any chance we can see it with the back bumper on and full rear view with both gates closed?

And what are your plans for the tail light and taigate trim?

I'm going with Coy C5's too. Maybe 22x9 for the rear though We'll have to talk offset and tire sizes. Are those the polished?

I'll take some pictures tonight. I am planning on using factory the truck tail lights and trim. I've got the tail gate trim and will see how it looks.

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Damn it! That looks too good not to do... Now you've added to my list Any chance we can see it with the back bumper on and full rear view with both gates closed?
Best I could do for right now. Sorry for the green paint, that's all I had to get it all one color, .
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